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Dd1 being picked on - by her best friend

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Moomin · 16/10/2006 21:31

Dd1 has just started reception. She went to the pre-school attached to this school and was in the class with another girl (J) who she became friendly with. I met her mum about a month into term (I was off having dd2 for the beginning of term) and we really hit it off and have been close ever since. Both girls are now in the same class in Reception.

J is quite 'feisty' but very cute with it and I've had her round quite a few times. Dd1 has been for a sleepover at their house too and they go to dance classes at the weekend together. I wouldnt say they're as thick as thieves, as they both have other friends but they like each other well enough. Dd1 is very tall for her age and quite mature. J is tiny and they look a real odd couple when they're together. J still has quite a few tantrums and (her mum fully admits) can be quite a handful. J's mum and I have very similar views on parenting and discipline and I can honestly say that J is dealt with very firmly and fairly by her parents on occasions where it is needed.

Last week J had a dreadful day at school and her mum was called back by the teacher - she'd disobeyed several members of staff, had hit another child in assembly and had been spiteful to dd1. Her mum was mortified and dealt with her accordingly - no TV for rest of week, early to bed, fave toy taken off her; and she apologised to dd1 as soon as she saw her the next day. Dd1 has mentioned that J is often spiteful to her at school, mostly name calling. Dd1 tells us that she either ignores J or tells a teacher. J's mum and I actually discussed it the other day and she said she thought J did this to dd1 because dd1 is very placid and doesn't rise to the bait. But she was also very clear that she considered J to be bullying dd1, so I couldnt ask for more support really.

Things have gotten worse today however. I was asking dd1 if she and J were friends again as we walked home from school. Very matter-of-factly dd1 told me that J had called her several horrible names, had smacked her arm, had poked her in the eye and had also bitten her today!! On closer questioning I found out this was on separate occasions throughout the day and dealt with my 3 different teachers/lunchtime supervisors. This would seem to indicate to me that J is purposely singling dd1 out. I'm not sure of their class teacher is aware of each of the incidents but I'm a bit more concerned about it all now.

I was going to write the teacher a letter to be passed on as I'm at work tomorrow and can't get to school but then I thought that I should maybe speak to J's mum first. I'm hoping that I can do it in a way that she won't think I'm tittle-tattling but I know she'd be hurt if I went to school first without telling her. I'm just hoping no more of it goes on tomorrow, before I get the chance to speak to J's mum. I rang her house tonight but she's out. Whichever way I dress it up, J is bullying dd1 isn't she?

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IvortheEngine · 16/10/2006 22:20

I don't really feel that I'm the best one to post on this thread but I couldn't pass by, seeing it unanswered and not post. So...briefly...yes, I think J is bullying dd1. Yes, I'd be upset if I was J's Mum and you hadn't spoken to me first, but I'd understand if you'd tried and I was out and I'd think you'd be quite right to write a letter to the teacher tonight before being able to speak to me as doubtless more bullying will happen tomorrow and it's not fair on dd1. So...I'd write the letter that you plan to do - it's hardly going to get J expelled or anything - it's just going to draw the teacher's attention to the problem so that she can alert the various supervisors etc in time tomorrow. Then you can get in touch with J's Mum as soon as you are able to and want to, and explain what happened today. HTH. Good luck.

peegeeweegeeWITCH · 17/10/2006 20:44

Oh Moomin, your post could have been written by me.

DD (nearly 4) has just started nursery. She is in the same group as her best friend (S, also nearly 4). They have known eachother since they were babies, do ballet lessons and swimming lessons together. At first all was fine, but last week S refused to sit with dd at circle time or hold dd's hands. Dd who is fiercely loyal to S was heartbroken. Today S's mum and I went out with the girls to a soft play place before taking the girls to nursery. Another little girl wanted to play with dd and S, so S decided she no longer wanted dd and hit her. When I gently questioned dd and S on what happened, S stated that she had found a new friend and did not want dd so she hit her.
Dd is adament S is still her best friend, "because she is sometimes nice to me"

I personally am very upset with S's behaviour. Unfortunately S' smum is one of my closest friends, but I feel she is too softly-softly in her discipline. But I appreciate all parents do things differently.

Dd and S both have made other friends at nursery, but dd who is quite a sensitive little soul will always put S first. S is not quite as sensitive and appears to only want dd if there is 'no better option'.

Sorry to post an essay on my own problem - when I should be responding to yours...

For what it is worth it does seem that J is bullying your dd. I would discuss it with J's mum and together go to the teacher. Perhaps the teacher can engineer it so that J and your dd are not sat at the same table/in the same group, therefore encouraging J to make new/different friends and enable her to put some distance between her and J.
This would be especially important if J was getting distressed by this situation.
Perhaps seperate dance classes would also be an option.
(I am planning on doing the above, but nursery is not able to move dd into a different group...)

Please Moomin, let me know how you resolve this, as I could do with some further help on this one...
Best of luck, and your dd sounds like a gorgeous girl...

peegeeweegeeWITCH · 17/10/2006 20:49

that should be enable yor dd to make new friends and put some distance between her and J

sorry...

Moomin · 17/10/2006 21:41

Thanks for posting.
I have just finished talking with J's mum who was mortified but really grateful that I talked to her first. We have agreed to meet up tomorrow morning and try to see their teacher before school. We want to present a united front and see if the teacher has any advice on how to proceed.

Dd told me that she and J had gotten on much better today - but then added that J must have still felt a bit grumpy with her because she hit her in assembly and still called her some names . Again, though, dd was very non-plussed about it on the surface. When I asked her how it made her feel she said she felt a bit sad. I'm pretty sure she's telling the truth - I don't think you can ever be 100% with kids - but fwiw I do believe her account of things. J's mum and I discussed why J might be feeling angry or frustrated - we think maybe it's the strain of starting school full-time and being very tired and taking it out on dd as she won't hit back. We'll see what the teacher says tomorrow...

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Moomin · 17/10/2006 21:44

and sorry for ignoring you pgwgWITCH... didn't mean to. I feel for you and your dd. But I also think from my own dd's point of view that I don't want to 'distance' her from J. Although no-one wants their child to be bullied, I do think that this sort of thing gets them used to coping with relationship problems early on. I won't be changing her dance classes or anything like that. I hope something positive can come out of your situation.

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IvortheEngine · 17/10/2006 22:24

Popped back here to see how things had gone. I'm glad you were able to talk to J's mum and that you're well on the way to getting it sorted out together. Well done. I hope things improve for your dd too, peegeeweegeeWITCH.

peegeeweegeeWITCH · 17/10/2006 23:16

Good point Moomin, about not wanting to distance dd from friend. Perhaps I am being a bit knee-jerky in my reaction...

I just fear that my dd (being a clingy/loyal little bean) will keep follow S around, to the further annoyance of S. Also, this will stop dd from finding any other friends...

Oh, the joys of parenting.... groan...

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