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Need some perspective please

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feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 11:18

Have name changed for this...

OK, here goes. I have been with DP for 7 years. We originally planned to marry about a year after we met, but I got pregnant and so the wedding was cancelled/postponed/whatever.

I sold my house and moved into his house when I was pregnant. DS was born with a heart defect and was extremely ill, he had to have open heart surgery when he was 5 months old. This is where things started to go a bit wrong looking back. The hospital DS had his surgery in was about 100 miles away from where we live, so we were offered a room in the Ronald McDonald house for the length of his hospital stay. DP said he couldn't stay because of his dog, even though his DM had offered to feed the dog while he was away (she couldn't walk him, he is a big, badly trained dog, and she is a tiny lady), Anyway as I said, she offered to feed him and sit with him for a few hours a day, but DP said no.

I resented the fact that he wasn't there for us, but I put all of my energy into making sure DS was OK. His surgery went well and we were home after 10 days.

Now, the idea always was that he would sell his house and we would buy one together. He ran out of money doing is house up to sell, so I lent him c £25k (some inheritance from my DM, plus proceeds of house sale) so he could finish it. Of course the aim of this was so that when he sold his house, he could pay me back. No problem I thought.

Here's the crazy bit, and looking back I have no idea why we did this, but we found a house that we really liked. It was a big old project, and DP said he would be happy to do it up over time ( he is a tradesman so very handy). So, foolishly we bought it, interest only mortgage. I put 70k of my own money in, DP put nothing in. And then the rot set in.

DP changed when we moved into the house, he was barely working (self employed) and his attitude towards life, me, everything completely changed. We were really struggling for money and obviously that affected our relationship. He got depressed and took it out on me pretty much constantly. He was awful to be around and I started to wonder what the hell I had done. His house didn't sell, so he ended up renting it out, so his other mortgage was covered. I put a few more thousand into the house (new boiler, sorting garden out for DS etc) and also lent him another 2k so that he could buy some equipment for his business.

He got more and more depressed, worked less and less, and he treated me like a skivvy. He was awful to me, did absolutely nothing around the house, and I mean nothing. We argued constantly, so last summer I had had enough, and told him that I wanted us to split up. He didn't seem surprised, or offer to get help for his depression, or even offer to make some changes such as helping me around the house. Nothing. Nada. By this point we were in separate rooms.

The house we are in now needs quite a bit of work doing to it before it can go on the market (think hole in kitchen ceiling, shower in bits, holes in bathroom floor) so I proposed we spent 12 months living in it together and doing it up so I can get the best price for it. This would give him another 12 months renting his house out. I can't afford to live in this house on my own with DS, I would go under. (I am the main bread winner, but my salary is not enough to live on in this house). Fast forward to today, his tenants moved out in November and he has made no effort to get some new tenants in. Now he is saying he is going under, and get this, he asked me to take a 10k loan out in my name so he could sort his finances out ( he is unable to get a loan as he is S/E and has not earned enough.) He said he will make the payments.

We just had a blazing row because I said no. I am not prepared to lose any more money. I said 'what have you ever done for me??' and he seemed incredulous that I could even say such a thing. He's stormed off now and I am sitting here shaking. He is so horrible to me, he does absolutely nothing around the house, so why do I feel so bad? I shouldn't take the loan out should I???

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Fudgeface123 · 13/01/2015 11:23

No, no, no, a million times no. I'd be making plans to leave, he sounds like a cocklodger of the worst kind!

feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 11:26

I can't just leave though. I have a mortgage that needs paying. I feel so bloody stuck

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doobyscoo · 13/01/2015 11:31

I think you need to seek financial and legal advice, he sounds awful. Definitely do not take the loan out, there will be another way.

newyear15 · 13/01/2015 11:31

No, no and thrice no. You need a solicitor to untangle what is yours. You have proof of all the money you gave/paid into the house?

feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 11:33

The house stuff was all documented by the solicitor so thats all fine. The loans...no nothing official. Im going to have to face up to losing thousands aren't I :(

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doobyscoo · 13/01/2015 11:39

Either that or continue to give him more money and then stand to lose even more over the course of time Sad

HootyMcTooty · 13/01/2015 11:39

If you're going to take a loan out, spend it on getting someone in to fix up the house so you can sell it and move on. You'd be well rid of him.

Do you have documentation to prove what you have put into the house financially? Is he prepared to let you have that back?

HootyMcTooty · 13/01/2015 11:42

Sorry didn't see your last post.

During your discussions about splitting has he acknowledged that you have a financial interest in his property? Would he sell it and give you your money back or is he refusing to?

Ultimately if you're going to be out of pocket you need to decide whether you'd rather lose the money and be free, or spend the rest of your life on this ungrateful bastard.

feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 11:43

Yes as I said upthread the house money is all documented so I'm covered. I know I need to get out, I just feel so stuck. You are right though, I do need to spend some money on the house, I have a few grand put away, but I'm so terrified of losing it all (my Dad died shortly after my mum so I got some more inheritance), I feel bad spending it - it was supposed to set me up for life and it's slowly being dwindled away. It keeps me awake at night, I think I am probably depressed too - nobody to turn to, just want my Mum :(

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feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 11:45

His house has never been brought into this particular equation. As it stands though, its been on the market for a number of years, so it wont be easy to sell. Its a lovely detached house on a nice estate but the NDN let it down, their house is a dump which I'm sure puts people off his.

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HootyMcTooty · 13/01/2015 11:49

It's a horrible situation you're in and I'm sorry for the loss of your parents Flowers

Get legal advice and speak to the GP about how you're feeling. There's no reason for you to suffer alone.

feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 11:53

Just had another blazing row, tried to talk to him and look at other options, we can't even talk now without us screaming at each other.

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redredholly · 13/01/2015 11:54

Tell him you and your DS move into his house (rent free) and he can stay and do up the big ruin on his own. When you've lived there for the rental equivalent of £25K (2 yearsish?) you can sell the big house (all the profit being yours) and then you can go your separate ways.

redredholly · 13/01/2015 11:55

Also look up financial abuse. He has stolen from you.

HootyMcTooty · 13/01/2015 11:56

OP if you've reached a point where you can't discuss things with each other without arguing, you need to get out for your own sanity.

redredholly · 13/01/2015 11:56

Also you could slightly lie and say his house is safer for DS and to move DS into the little house would be the right thing to do. You need to patch up the big house and sell it.

CleanLinesSharpEdges · 13/01/2015 11:57

Forget doing the house up before you sell it, the house (and the relationship) sound like a money pit. Put it on the market now, take what you can get and cut your losses.

HootyMcTooty · 13/01/2015 11:57

Sorry, posted too soon. Redredholly makes an excellent suggestion

feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 11:57

Nice idea rered, but his house is miles away from DS's school and I don't drive. It would cause me no end of problems. I just told him I was going to get an EA in and he went mental. The floors need sanding and revarnishing and he just went on and on about how it isn't possible with all the stuff that's in the house. I said we will find a way to clear the room, he said its impossible. He always sees problems not solutions. Anyway now I'm a fucking horrible bitch.

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feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 12:02

I want to ask him to leave but I can't afford to stay in this house and pay all the bills. What a mess

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redredholly · 13/01/2015 12:03

Ok in that case I think you need to formally break up - tell your DS and your relatives - and stop pretending you're a team (because you're not).

Then it becomes a much simpler issue of choosing yourself to put the house on the market/do it up etc. That your ex and some of his belongings are still in it becomes a v easy problem to fix, particularly if he's got his own place.

Do you have local friends?

redredholly · 13/01/2015 12:04

Can you get a student / lodger for the mean time?

feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 12:07

Everyone knows already apart from DS. I'm not sure I could cope with a stranger living here with me and DS, it would be too weird. I'm in my 40's, been there, done that. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and get him to go, he would have to provide some kind of maintenance wouldn't he? If I had about another £300 per month I could just about cope

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feelreallydown · 13/01/2015 12:08

But he wont be able to afford to pay me 300 a month will he, no way.

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redredholly · 13/01/2015 12:10

Don't forget there are benefits etc. you may be eligible for. Could you rent out the whole house and move into a much cheaper rented flat for the time being with your DS? Deffo get rid of husband, he is making matters worse.

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