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Is it worth trying to rescue this relationship or not?

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FolkGirl · 30/12/2014 17:57

I've posted before about my dysfunctional/toxic family. My brother and I are now NC with our mother for very many reasons. It's a decision that won't ever be changed both because I don't want to change it and because the LA would have something to say if we resumed contact.

The relationship I'm posting about, is the one between myself and my brother.

In a nutshell, my brother was the Golden Child in our family and I was the Scapegoat and we fulfilled these roles well. My brother could do no wrong, I could do no right. As adults, we both struggle. I have internalised all the things that were said about me and I am very hard on myself at times. My brother is the opposite. He struggles with the idea of ever being in the wrong and holds other people to very high and exacting standards. But ones to which he doesn't hold himself. So it's very easy to fall short of his expectations, whilst he constantly lets other people down. And he gets very angry when people let him down. He's always angry; his family, his friends, colleagues, strangers, bankers, people who have credit, the unemployed, the rich, the poor, the government, his parents, baby boomers, children of baby boomers who are set to inherit... all make him angry.

We both have a fragile sense of self. I constantly feel 'not good enough' and probably have too low expectations of others because I don't feel I deserve more. He almost feels 'too good' (as he was brought up to believe) and he judges other people in terms of how highly they regard him. If that makes sense. So, if someone lets me down, I tend to let it go and think it's not worth making a fuss. If he perceives someone has let him down he becomes very angry - how dare they do that to him.

So, for example, when I discovered my exH's affair, just over 2 years ago, I turned to my brother for support because I had no one else. He didn't once ask me if I was ok, or how the children were, or offer to take them out or invite us round for dinner or anything. Instead, I listened to hours of him ranting on the phone about how my he'd been let down and abandoned by one of his best friends (my exH); how his wedding photos were now ruined because my ex was his best man; how his daughter (and any future children) would have lost out on the only uncle they could have ever had; how it had reminded him how he felt when our parents split up... in a nutshell, it was all about him and I listened to him rant, I offered platitudes, I reassured him, I 'supported' him, I hugged him in my kitchen when he cried for the teenage boy he was when our parents split... and not once did he ask how I was/we were.

So fast forward to now.

His daughter came to stay with us for the weekend at the end of the summer and I babysat. He came to pick his daughter up after the weekend. He was late. We all went out for dinner and he was rude. He was rude and boorish to his wife - e.g. their daughter is 2 and was fractious by the time we got out. He let her do all the 'looking after' of their daughter whilst she was trying to eat her own dinner and then, when he'd finished eating, he went to eat the food off his wife's plate. When she said she hadn't finished, he sneered that she needed to hurry up then because he didn't want to sit there all night now he'd finished eating, but didn't offer to help... You get the picture...

Anyway, he was rude to me after this, I was sick of it. My children were there, he hadn't thanked me for having his daughter, he was chauvinistic and rude and I, very quietly, asked him to stop being rude to me. My punishment/his response was to stand up in the pub (my local) and engage in a very public, but private, character assasination. Everything from my failed relationships, to my career, my friendships, my parenting was in the firing line. I could tell by his wife's increasingly warning tone as she told him to be quiet (which he ignored) that she knew the worst was yet to come - my brother has form for vitriolic diatribes that are seen through from start to finish so I'm guessing she'd heard it all before.

So I got the children, left the pub and haven't spoken to him since.

He has since tried getting in touch, but I've blocked him on my phone and all his emails go straight to my deleted folder unread. I thought he might realise, but his arrogance clearly knows no bounds! He emailed my son asking to skype him on Christmas Day. My son didn't want to. He doesn't like Skype and he doesn't like the way my brother speaks to me. But he doesn't want to lose contact. In the last 3 years he's seen his entire family fall apart - he's lost his grandad; grandad's widow; grandad's children; his grandma; his great grandma and his parents have split up. He doesn't want to lose his uncle too. So I feel I have to do something. But I don't know what. He replied to the email saying he didn't want to skype, but could they talk on the phone after christmas? and my brother hasn't replied - effectively stonewalling him (as predicted because he didn't get his own way). My son recognises this. But he doesn't want to lose his only other blood relative.

I don't know what to do.

I'm considering emailing his wife, but she is complicit in it in that she enables my brother, even though he is equally vile to her.

Any suggestions?

Just so sad and exhausted by it all. I've watched, and continue to watch, my whole family just falling apart around me and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about it. I've cut out the rot, but it still isn't enough. My brother lacks any introspection so can't see that his reactions/responses might be flawed. It's the fault of other people, you know as in, "don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry".

OP posts:
FunkyBoldRibena · 31/12/2014 11:55

But you got great kids out of it!

Be glad you got the good genes. Look fondly on your gran. Keep the crap out and tell his wife that when she finally gets the courage to leave your brother you will be there for her.

Mehitabel6 · 31/12/2014 18:00

I'm only one person and I know that over Christmas, all my friends have been away to stay with family, or out with family, or grandma's had the children whilst mum did the post Christmas clean and dad took the children out for the day... and I'm up to my ears in all of it all the time and I feel I'm letting the children down too.

You are not letting them down. You only have to read MN over the Christmas holiday to find our how many people have terrible times.

It all seems worse at Christmas/New Year because you feel obliged to have fun and be happy families!
This is why I wouldn't do anything at the moment-you don't seem ready-just keep away from him and have a space until you feel stronger-even if it takes a long time.
I would write down all your plus points, however small. you might surprise yourself when you see them on paper.

Kristingle · 31/12/2014 18:17

Folk girl - somewhere between a third and a half of all marriages end in divorce. That means that everyone on mumsnet is either divorced themselves, married to a divorcee , or their close friend , parents or sibling is divorced . Are we all failures in a major aspect of our lives ?

No we are just human . We tried and failed. It was hellish, but we picked ourselves up and got on with our lives. As you have done . Do you judge us all as harshly as you do yourself ? I guess not .

You are very hard on yourself , and it will be hard to be happy while you have these unrealistic standards . I think you also look at other peoples lives through rose tinted glasses .

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