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25 years in a EA relationship. H due to move out in new year. How do I survive it

39 replies

Homealonemom · 28/12/2014 23:57

I'm scared. I thought we would always be together. I thought he would change.
I have stuck by him through 25 years of major ups and downs. Over the years his jealousy, controlling abusive nature has ground me down. I was once full of life, bubbly and outgoing. I am now anxious, worrier and have lost my zest for enjoying life.
We have had 2 years of couples counselling which helped me with anxiety issues but didn't help us as a couple.
A few months ago I told him I couldn't go on anymore like this and he agreed that he would find somewhere to live. Which he has and he can move in to it in a few weeks.
In the meantime he has changed. And the changes are massive. All for the better. However do I take the risk that it will last? Why didn't he make these changes before? When we started counselling why didn't he try then 2 years ago.

I just feel so let down. I don't want to be suckered back in only to be let down again. Is it possible for someone to change to that extent.

We have 2 grown up DC.
He has previously called me names including c**t, slag, bitch. Accused me of having affairs. Lazy, told me I'm only with him for money. It's all rubbish.
He is worse when he's had a drink. He punches walls and throws things.

He has cut down on his drinking, he is calmer and much more chilled out. But is it because he us losing control. He starts his own counselling next week.

What do u lovely people think I should do?

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however · 31/12/2014 23:25

Don't cave. Don't.

If you must, tell him you'll talk more after he moves out, that you can't think with him there, that by staying he is destroying any feelings you have left because once again he is putting his needs before yours. Tell him that.

That will give you some breathing space. He needs to go.

Homealonemom · 31/12/2014 23:29

Thank you.

I have found the last week extremely hard and stressful.
I will be glad to get back to work and some normality.

I am trying to stay strong. I really am

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however · 31/12/2014 23:46

I know. X

Lean on your children, get strength from them.

Think about this day next year, and how you might post that it's been one year apart from him, and how happy you are. Think about that.

tipsytrifle · 02/01/2015 12:22

I hope you don't surrender your ticket back to YOU, Homealonemom

What Anniegetyourgun said is very true Years are not invested, they are lived; they have already been lived and you can't either waste or spend them over again.

25y of his jealousy, controlling abusive nature has ground me down .. quarter of a century to break you down. It must be time to step out of the cage and try something new fresh and ALIVE!

After you have separated if you really really wanted you might establish some kind of friendship, it's not like he's going to leave the planet (unfortunately) ... or you might find that you never ever look back at what you've endured except in celebration of escaping it.

Gfplux · 02/01/2015 12:28

Don't change your plans.......please don't change your plans.

Effic · 02/01/2015 12:33

Let's say that it's all true...that he really has/is changing.... that the thought of losing you has really hit him that hard that is is willing and able to make all the changes he needs to...... he can still do that .......living elsewhere. I understand how scary it is and how final it seems but, let's just say it is possible, then he can show you - over time & living somewhere else. He can go to the counselling, DV course, see your children and YOU can decide if he gets to see you. If you want to & he makes the changes you want, he can always move back again? But he has to leave ...... For no other reason than to show you that he can change and put your needs first. And you need him to leave. I also suggest, as others have, that you attend the freedom programme while he does his courses. Then see where you both in 6 months time. But he HAS to move out.
Good luck.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 02/01/2015 12:35

Emotional abuse is all about control. If he can't control you with bullying he will try to manipulate you by other means, including being pleasant. The nice and nasty routine is very common, sadly. Fall for the nice act, relent, give him another chance, believe the rubbish about 'love', and like the children in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, the ribbons and balloons will fall off and you'll find yourself back in the same old cage sooner rather than later

As with others I'm encouraging you to stick to your guns. Best of luck

Boomtownsurprise · 02/01/2015 12:37

Firstly, don't change your plans.

Secondly every one of those things he has done need to continue. He as much as you needs to put themselves back together. You are both hurting in very different ways.

25 is lot to invest. So wouldn't it be worth each investing in some time to re evaluate your selves? A few weeks doing these courses are nothing. Albeit a good start. Take this year to see what else life can offer. It really might do both of you some good.

Best of luck

CogitoErgoSometimes · 02/01/2015 12:47

A few years doing courses won't make an abusive man into a reasonable one.... Hmm

Rebecca2014 · 02/01/2015 13:04

It is an act. Funny how he can suddenly act nice now, shows that he can be nice but chooses not to be. He enjoys taking his anger out on you and It is very unlikely after 25 years and couples counselling that he won't revert back to his old ways.

You are in your 40s? if so then get away now. You can meet a normal man.

SaucyMare · 02/01/2015 13:11

why wasn't he nice in the summer? why wasn't he nice last christmas?
why wont he be nice NEXT summer, why wont he be nice NEXT christmas?
because he isn't a nice person. people can change short term, but not being yourself is really hard work and draining.

you are asking a pig to be a cuddly puppy.

Somethingtodo · 02/01/2015 13:34

"Cut down on drinking and going out
Helping around the house
Spending time with DS
Better mood
Arranged to go on DV course starting next week. Weekly commitment for 25 weeks.
Stopped lying"

^^

He needs to do this anyway to be an effective separated co parent and to have a basic relationship with his dc.

"CHILDREN DONT RESPECT HIM" - he has ruined their childhood and robbed them of the lovely bubbly Mother they could have had -- dont let him continue to do this.

"He has begged me to give him another chance.
I'm so confused.
He doesn't want to move out.
He says he loves me so much"

These are desperation words.....desperate for himself....not for you.

Xmas/NY is difficult time - but stick to your guns. Stay strong - it will be wonderful on the other side. Ensure he is going tho - so that there are not any last minute surprises.

Homealonemom · 04/01/2015 08:48

Thank you for taking the time to post.

He moves out next weekend. I am going to need your support

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Grapeeatingweirdo · 04/01/2015 09:46

You've got it. We are all here for you. I am so sorry you are going through this. You are doing the right thing!

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