PUA's

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THere have been sone really interesting articles on The Guardian about this following the decision to prevent Julian Blanc coming into the country. Whilst he is clearly an idious character, it does seem like this raises some uncomfortable questions about men and womens sexual interaction.

I slept with a guy once who was a total weirdo and definitely did the negging thing. He used to hang around the club I went to being desperate, one night for some reason I decided to sleep with him. I reckon he had read these books, he cultivated an image which although was a bit weird made him very memorable and he got a reputation for having poor physical boundaries. I'm still a bit as to why I slept with him.
He was shit too.

I just totally totally don't get how insulting a woman can ever result in her being attracted to him. I mean, what? If some guy came up to me and said "I don't normally like big teeth but they work on you" or "I'd fuck you if your hair weren't such a mess" I'd think what a total weirdo cunt and move away sharpish. In what world does being insulted attract you to another person? I'd also assume he WASN'T attracted to me actually, because why would you be rude about someone you want to attract?
I don't get it. I don't get why they do it and in what world or on what women it could possibly work as a chat up routine.

I looked into some of these techniques once since I lack some self confidence socially and thought there might be some tips about opening conversations, talking confidently to strangers, etc.
Not for picking people up, more to do with work, networking with contacts, etc.
There were some good tips actually but yes a lot of misogyny.

GoodtoBetter, it works because most women are insecure about their appearance. The idea that someone's noticed your imperfections and finds it cute / still fancies you can be very charming. This, like all the other tricks, is a variation on sales technique.

All that pick up artists achieve is meaningless sex

I read a massive chunk of The Game last night (thanks, Amazon!) and really noticed that all the exciting women they got off with were highly available and a bit screwed up. Basically, anyone who looked half decent and seemed like fun would've been in with a chance. It's a lot of faff & mystery, where a makeover and a confidence course would have yielded the same effect ... and probably a more satisfying one: as Neil Strauss observes, PUA is all about getting lots of sex; any accompanying relationship will necessarily be shallow because it's all based on manipulation.

It's the rendering of women as prey that's the problem, not the psychosocial intricacies.

It doesn't always work

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