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Don't know if this is a problem or if I'm being melodramatic.

45 replies

NeedToGetThisOut · 26/10/2014 12:29

Sorry I've had to nc, don't want this linking to other threads I've got.

Will try not to drip feed.

Met dp 7 years ago. He was a bit of a lad. Messed me about. Split up for quite a while. He decided he'd changed and spent the best part of a year chasing me, promising me the world etc and have been back together for 5 years.
First 2 years great, moved in, all fine. Had dc1. family decided to tell me they hate me, always have, I'm no good etc. No reasons given just this. Dp stood up for me to an extent. I've gone nc with them. He took dc to seethem. I wasn't happy about it and told him this but his child too so don't feel I can stop him.
After maternity leave ended we realised (yes I know we should have planned more but there you go) it would cost us for me to return to work so I'm a SAHM. Have dc2.

Basically I want to decide if this is worth it or not. We have no 'love' in the relationship. Only physical contact (kissing - apart from odd peck) is during sex. No romance, no affection. He tells me it's just 'not him' and he's not an affectionate person but it's like living with a stone.
He tells me I'm negative. I try so hard to be positive but I always felt a partner is there for the bad and the good? He doesn't want to hear the bad.
Tells me I'm boring and need a hobby, should be out more. I have no money so can't afford it plus I don't have the time. I never get time away from the kids. If he takes them to visit his family I catch up on jobs I can't do when they're here eg ironing.
He constantly has digs at me for not doing enough. Dc2 is 5 weeks and I was sick all the way through the pg. struggles to look after dc1 and couldn't do as much at home.
Now dc2 is here it's like he expects all house to be perfect again.
I've made a bed in the spare room to sleep with dc2 as I'm bf and can't see the point in waking both of us. It's only meant to be short term because dp doesn't function well on little sleep. Dc1 has been gettin up in the night and dp is having to deal with it. He's now 'exhausted'. Going to bed even earlier so after dc is in bed we have no time together before we go to bed.
It was my idea about the rooms so that's fine- my choice but I found out the other day he's been letting on that we're still in the same room and he's being woken through the night?! Feel really pissed off he's not just said 'oh no we're in seperate rooms'. Feel like he's taking credit where he shouldn't be? Dc1 basically gets in bed with him and sleeps so not like a proper wake up.

He does nothing around the house. He will do anything outside eg cut grass but is always helpin a friend with something or building something in the garden etc.
he does none of the housework which ok I'm a SAHM but with a 5 week old? I have to make dinner while holding/bf baby and dealin with toddler (toilet etc). He won't hold the baby because 'it wants feeding' and he can't deal with the crying.
He doesn't even take his plate to the sink after dinner.
He has started putting dc1 to bed (after I've spent 2 years doing bedtimes until we're at the point of literally teeth, pjs, into bed and nothing more).
I have no money. I keep trying to talk to him about an allowance as I have to ask for money. I get £20 a week from having dc1. It's not really enough. We don't have a shared account. He will give me money but I feel guilty asking. I realise that's my problem.
I know I've for myself into this, shouldn't have had kids before marriage etc but I did and this is the situation so I don't need telling what a stupid cow I've been, I know that already.
Before dc1 he was so different, I never would have seen this coming.
Sometimes I feel like a housemaid (unpaid).
I'd leave tomorrow but I have no money, no where to go.
I can't bear the thought of his family having the dc when I can't have any say over it. They are toxic and I don't say that lightly- lots of example but that whole other thread.

Am I being dramatic? Is this what life's meant to be like? Feeling miserable and trapped? He goes on about how we cost him so much but he buys us nothing (obv pays for us to live here) apart from food. If we left he'd still have the mortgage and bills?!
He hates the 'mess' of the kids toys and if he does vacum (once a month?) it's a big guilt trip show where he huffs and puffs and does a shit job

Sorry it's so long.

OP posts:
BlinkingHeck · 26/10/2014 13:32

Fuck the allowance you need a joint bank account.

MiniTheMinx · 26/10/2014 13:34

I disagree, how are yo going to get a man who is a control freak with money to agree...start small. Ask for what you are likely to get.

BlinkingHeck · 26/10/2014 13:39

Or LTB

26Point2Miles · 26/10/2014 13:41

Op

Please do as a pp said.... Look at what you'd be entitled to

Look at properties

Maybe visit the women's aid website.... It's financial abuse

Explore local courses. Maybe consider counselling/raising self esteem

Vivacia · 26/10/2014 13:41

I would honestly rather not demean myself by asking for an "allowance". "Fuck him, and fuck his money" would be my attitude.

MiniTheMinx · 26/10/2014 13:45

That may be so Vivacia but OP needs money now and he is the father of these children and he is the one earning money, let him pay, he should.

Vivacia · 26/10/2014 13:49

Well, she's done that Minx, from her first post, "I have no money. I keep trying to talk to him about an allowance as I have to ask for money."

Now what?

26Point2Miles · 26/10/2014 13:50

Exactly

This where op needs to dig deep and get this man confronted!

GinAndSonic · 26/10/2014 14:08

I was far more lonely in my marriage than after i left it.

NeedToGetThisOut · 26/10/2014 15:13

Thank you all for your input. Have a lot to think about. Don't want to rush into anything and have a lot to sort through before I make ant decisions.
Thank you for the advice though, it really is appreciated.

If he changed his attitude then I think we could work things out but that's for him to do isn't it? So maybe if we can talk there's a chance.

I really don't think it's pnd, had that after dc1 (which he refused to acknowledge) and this time I feel a million times better. However, you are right about things being worse when I'm tired/hormonal etc so I have to take my time. Maybe things will get better in time.

I'm glad it's not me being irrational/ expecting too much. Sad that things have come to this.

Might keep posting here just to keep my head straight if that's ok?

OP posts:
Vivacia · 26/10/2014 15:19

Aye, we could allow that Wink

NeedToGetThisOut · 26/10/2014 15:21
Smile
OP posts:
NeedToGetThisOut · 28/10/2014 07:30

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NeedToGetThisOut · 28/10/2014 07:35

Last night ended badly. Apparently he didn't like the way I was talking to him (? No idea what I'm meant to have done) and told me to fuck off. He's being so rude and disrespectful. I just took the baby and went to bed. We're in seperate beds so didn't see him again. He's left for work without a word. He won't think he's done anything wrong. It'll be my fault. He can balls. I'm not apOlogising for that. I've done nothing wrong.
Spent all night looking at properties I could move to.
If anyone is still reading, what do I need to budget for if I move? Obviously rent, council tax, hearing, electric, gas, water, how do I find out how much these would be? Then there's food and clothes for kids. Don't have a car so that's less to worry about. What else?
Also, house not in my name but literally all the contents are mine apart from the tv. Can I just take it all? Where do I stand with that?
We were meant to be getting married next year. At least I'll save some money there - he wouldn't pay anything towards it.

OP posts:
SpuffySummers · 28/10/2014 07:55

I felt much the same as you re the lonliness thing a few years ago. For me, it was better to actually be alone and have to do everything myself rather than feeling alone and then the disappointment of having someone there who refused to help and behaved like a third child.

The relief was immense.

SpuffySummers · 28/10/2014 07:56

My DDs were 2 and 6 weeks old at the time.

petalsandstars · 28/10/2014 08:19

If the contents are yours then you can just take them. Will you get tax credits or eligible for housing benefit? Get the child benefit updated for 2 children ASAP. Others will have more info I'm sure

BlinkingHeck · 28/10/2014 09:05

OP,
Look on the website entitledto.co.uk
It will give you an idea of what you are likely to get in benefits. It might also be easier for you to find work now as a low income household you'd also be entitled to the childcare element of tax credits which pays about 70% of your childcare (IIRC).

I'm sure you can take the contents, but I'd do it when he's not there and don't let him know that's what you are doing.

Do you have friends who will help you move?

One thing to bear in mind is the 'bedroom tax' so you might be better going for a 2 bed.

Good luck.

FunkyBoldRibena · 28/10/2014 09:29

Is the house rented or bought?

You can literally just go and take it all if it belongs to you. Get all your entitlements. Make sure you take evidence of his earnings if you can find it. Payslips etc. Any bank statements.

Nothing to stay for here, you are too young to be saddled with this nightmare.

vodkanchocolate · 28/10/2014 09:36

You are not been dramatic at all, youve had some good words on here im sorry I havent anything different to say.

I couldnt imagine been in a relationship like this its not healthy at all, I think you know deep down what you need to do. It may seem like a scary process at moment but it would be worth it for you in the long run to start making plans.

I have a friend who was in a similar relationship, she saved for months to get out and try find somewhere of her own just when she had enough she found out she was pregnant again, and he promised he would change etc etc bought a brand new house for them she was walking round in kuckoo land pretending everything was fine and trelling everyone how happy she was 3ds, lovely house, new car. A while back she told me he had started his old tricks again staying out all night, putting her down, leaving the house in a major mess before he went to work so she would have to clean it up. Last week he sold the car he bought for her and said he cant afford to run 2 cars he payed for the up keep and petrol etc all very well and good bes now refusing to pay for bus fairs to kids schools for her so its coming out of the allowance he gives her per week. I feel sorry for her but she was all set to leave 18 months ago had a fair few grand saved up which she just went and blew when she thought everything was fine.

Just wanted to let you know you are not alone in the situation, and I hope that you manage to have the strength to make the right choice

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