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Want to leave. Can't leave. Not entirely sure if I'm even justified.

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MustBeARubbishWife · 25/10/2014 19:03

I have namechanged to avoid being outed, and may have to fudge some personal details for the same reason.

My DH has become very unpleasant to be around - not all the time, but when he feels stressed or put upon, which seems to be rather a lot of the time. He works full time; I am a SAHM but I have an illness which leaves me feeling drained, exhausted and in pain all the time. As a result, DH does loads around the house, far more than his fair share. He is very vocal about how much he doesn't like this, and I spend a lot of time feeling guilty and trying to assure him that I appreciate every load of laundry he does, or when he takes out the bins, etc.

We also have 4 young children, who are obviously demanding and hard work in their own ways.

My big problem is how he copes - or rather doesn't - with the pressure of 4 children and a poorly wife. He is very short-tempered, stomps around the house, yells at the children if they ask him for something like a drink while he's doing something. When I try to talk to him about this and ask if he ever remembers his parents speaking to him like that, he shouts at me and storms off. On occasions when I've been bedridden through illness, I have gone for hours without eating or drinking because I daren't interrupt whatever he's doing to ask for something. I can deal with him giving ME grief, but when he screams "get out of my way!" at my 9 year old ds, all I want to do is bundle up the kids and leave.

Despite all that, he is really not a bad person. He does masses around the house and caring for our children, but I feel he gets so caught up with the practical things that he forgets to be kind to us. When he is relaxed and in a good mood he's wonderful, but those good moods are gradually being outnumbered by the bad moods.

I've tried doing all the housework myself but that lands me back in bed for at least two days. I'm on medication to manage my illness but it has limited efficacy. I have offered to hire a cleaner but we can't afford it. So, so many times I've tried talking to him in different ways so he can see that we're on eggshells around him much of the time. He just gets angry and defensive and storms off.

I've looked into leaving with the children, because I know he would be a wonderful patient dad if he didn't have this constant stress, but I have no hope of affording a home round here and I just cannot move out of the area because of the children's school. I feel completely stuck, totally miserable and guilty as hell for being a rubbish wife for not doing more around the house, and a terrible mother for exposing my children to being yelled at so much.

I will try to reply to any responses quickly but I'm really poorly and only able to cope with typing on my phone for short periods. It took me a couple of hours to write this much!

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dadwood · 25/10/2014 19:15

Hi, You can't help the chronic illness, so don't beat yourself up about what you can't control. It sounds as if your DH is just not coping with everything, do you think that it's the extra strain that has made him irritable and that he would not otherwise be like that? There may be some outside help that you could get, like Homestart or something

fifi669 · 25/10/2014 19:19

In all honesty I feel sorry for you all. You're ill, there's nothing you can do about that. He's the breadwinner and does the housework, with 4 children running about and an ill wife. No wonder he's stressed! It can't be good for your children either.

You can't afford a cleaner, but could a family member take the kids out every now and again? Give you both a bit of a breather?

With your illness could you actually look after 4 children and a home if you left?

CogitoErgoSometimes · 25/10/2014 19:25

The guy needs help. Are you technically classed as disabled? Qualify for carers allowance?

dadwood · 25/10/2014 19:27

Yes, fifi669 has a good point there, if the problem is really the workload of looking after everyone and not actually your DH's attitude, then maybe leaving would not give you any benefit. There will be some kind of council support available because it's cheaper to support a family before there is any functional breakdown than after. What about calling CAB?

ouryve · 25/10/2014 19:29

It sounds like a tough situation for everyone.

If any of your kids are under 5, it might be worth you contacting homestart to see if they can offer you any support.

ComradePlexiglass · 25/10/2014 19:37

Sounds awful for all concerned. What sort of illness do you have and what is the prognosis? Our family is similar except I am in your dh's caring plus full time working plus sole child care role and my male partner is very ill/disabled. It is very stressful for everyone. Do you have friends and family who can help practically? Sounds like some extra hands are needed just for a start.

MustBeARubbishWife · 25/10/2014 20:14

Thank you all for your very kind responses. Unfortunately my family live many miles away and DH's are, shall we say, unsympathetic about my illness and the way it restricts me. We haven't looked into Homestart or similar as DH is too proud and takes such suggestions as my saying he isn't doing enough. I think I will have to try again and use a different angle. Suggestions would be very welcome!

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KristinaM · 25/10/2014 20:20

Are your in laws otherwise ok ? Could they help out by having the children over ? Or taking them out to the park etc

MustBeARubbishWife · 25/10/2014 20:26

Ha, my in-laws are a whole other thread! No they won't have the kids overnight and veryrarely for an afternoon here or there.

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KristinaM · 25/10/2014 20:34
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26Point2Miles · 25/10/2014 20:35

How old are they all?

fifi669 · 25/10/2014 20:44

Any friends that can help?

YvetteChauvire · 25/10/2014 20:51

I know you don't want to be too specific but are any of your children old enough to help with little things around the house?

From the age of 6 all children in our house have to start helping preparing light snacks (toast, fruit, water), by 8 years old they can make a simple breaksfast (cereal/porridge, toast, fruit, milk). They also have to make their own beds at this stage, they change their duvet covers unaided, for instance. They clear the table after dinner and load the dishwasher. There is an understanding in our house that any clothes or toys left laying on the floor are unwanted so they are packed away and given to charity shops, this has worked in motivating the children to keeping their rooms tidy. All of this takes time to nuture but it is worth it. If your husband is not getting any practical help then everyone doing a little bit will ease the burden.

Quitelikely · 25/10/2014 20:53

Could you get the dc to help with chores more? Do you have a dishwasher?

Could it be worth contacting the local ss dept so your dh can get assessed (I know by the sounds of it he wouldn't like this) but if he has needs that are not being met because of his caring role the ss can offer direct payments to get someone else to help with certain things. Because they know full well if he wasn't there then your care would cost a lot more.

Quitelikely · 25/10/2014 20:54

It's called a carers assessment

patronisingbitchinthewardrobe · 25/10/2014 22:35

Sounds like he's reaching the end of his line. Full time work and full time caring don't go together.

Cut him some slack and get him some help. Not just some - loads. Vast amounts.

wannabestressfree · 25/10/2014 22:59

What sort of illness is it if you don't mind me asking? I get dla which enables me to have some help at home occasionally.

theoriginalposter · 26/10/2014 06:19

Have you ever looked into DLA? I think it might be called PIP for adults these days though. You don't need to necessarily consider yourself 'disabled' to qualify - you would just need to demonstrate that you require extra care/help/supervision for a certain amount of time each day. They would consider the fact that even though you are sometimes able to do things that it then lands you in bed for a number of days. The money you get could be put towards a handyman/cleaner to relieve the strain on your H.

theoriginalposter · 26/10/2014 06:24

BTW - your diagnosis is largely irrelevant for DLA. It is awarded based on care needs and can be awarded even in the absence of a diagnosis.

IDismyname · 26/10/2014 06:34

It sounds like your DH needs more help, and soon. I really feel for you all.
YY to Homestart if any DCs are under 5.

wannabestressfree · 26/10/2014 08:13

Original she would still need significant medical evidence to claim it. It's a lot harder to get now. I would imagine if she struggles to the extent she says she must have a diagnosis. Some illnesses have specialist nurses - they might be able to help?

dadwood · 26/10/2014 15:17

How are you feeling today?

MustBeARubbishWife · 27/10/2014 15:40

Thank you all, again.

I haven't looked into DLA or Homestart, or a carer's assessment for DH, but it sounds like they're all great places to start. Thank you for the suggestions.

We talked again yesterday and he finally accepted that he can't do everything and that doesn't make him less of a father or husband. It's the first time he's actually acknowledged that, so it feels like a big step. He made a real effort to be calm and smiley around the children for the rest of the weekend, and the whole atmosphere in the house felt nicer for it.

There's a lot of work to do in us looking out for each other and getting in some help, but I think we'll be ok. :)

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