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secretkeeperlittleweeper · 12/10/2014 18:28

I have name changed. I dont think friend is a mn'etter, but honey, if you see this and no doubt know who i am.. please dont be mad. I am so very scared for you.

Today a good friend confided in me that her partner has been violent on more than several occasions last year.

To give you an idea, she says he has kicked her, bit a hole in her lip, dragged her down the stairs on the mattress. And is generally verbally abusive after alcohol. She said he drinks every other weekend or so, not loads but it has a negative effect every time. she says he hasn't been violent since last year and that she is not scared of him, and has warned him if he ever does it again, she will make sure everyone knows and he will be gone. They have a 3yo.

He also has a child from previous that he doesn't see.

It is fair to say that I wasn't sure about him when I first met him, but we have hung out together a few times now and I've grown to really like him, my dh does too. I knew about his previous child for which I hold little respect over, but we've always enjoyed their company. However this is a game changer.

she made this admission while we were discussing marriage (why she won't. . Now I know!) And he was with my dh. I felt sick and honestly wanted to storm upstairs and throw him out. But since she has no current plans to leave him I pulled myself together.

She is a clever, beautiful person and a wonderful mother to her son. Her partner does have good atributes, but ofc there is nothing he could do or say to make me think better of him now.

She says he is trying to change and there has been no incident since last year but I can't say I feel she isn't in immediate danger..who knows if he'll never touch her again?

I've told my husband, who was pretty speechless and wants to confront him, he wants to believe that he's trying to change and likes him.. but feels like he needs to discuss this with him. I've sworn Jim to secrecy, I don't want her to feel she can't trust me/ have him cut her off from us or worse hurt her as a consequence.

Since she intends to stay, and I have to consider that should he truly stay to his word they may well have a long future ahead, I need advice on how I can continue. I feel utter rage over this but cherish my friend and her boy and do not want to risk losing them..much less raising his suspicion that I know. I suspect he would be very embarrassed since in true abuser form, he is non confrontational and mild from a public pov. She is ofc embarrassed too.

I'm rambling. .

Please help me. (And her)

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secretkeeperlittleweeper · 12/10/2014 18:30

Dh isn't Jim. . Autocorrect mistake of Him.

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arthriticfingers · 12/10/2014 18:49

Whatever else you do STOP YOUR HUSBAND FROM TELLING
I am not being melodramatic to say that he might be putting her life at risk if he does.
The first thing that would happen is that you would find yourself excluded from your friend's life - her husband would make sure of that.
Apologies for alarmist tone - I could not find another way of stressing how important it is to keep your friend's confidence.

secretkeeperlittleweeper · 12/10/2014 19:02

Arthritic, I promise I won't let him- in fact I told him if he ever did I would Leave him on account of him risking get safety. I'm aware of what's on the line here, Fwiw he's never broken my confidence before but this is probably one of the worst and important 'secrets' or situations he/we together have had to deal with. He has however said that the minute she says so- he'll do the throwing out himself. . . He'd have to race me there tbh.

I want to support her best I can. Can he truly change? Honestly I don't ever believe anyone can under these circumstances so I'm finding this difficult to have clarity as mu emotions are running high..

The fact is they may forever stay together and I need to know how to continue our relationship with them.. I'm so angry that he has in flicked such disgusting behaviour on her. She is strong and has fire in her belly, speaks her thoughts and I have to believe her when she says she won't allow him another chance.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 12/10/2014 19:04

Your friend will have confided in you for a reason and I think you need to know what it is. What does she want you to do with this information? Is she telling you because she thinks things are on the up and she wants to share the good news? Or is she telling you because she knows it's wrong and needs a safety net?

I think, for your part, you're entitled to say that you are shocked by what she's said.

arthriticfingers · 12/10/2014 19:10

There is not much you can do except let her talk and validate her feelings.
If she tells you something she is upset about, tell your what you think it is right and what is wrong - without judging her.
One of the many terrible things about abuse is that it stops us thinking and behaving logically - our whole world view, our ability to judge, becomes skewed and we really do not know up from down.
So, just be there - and if you are shocked, tell her - but be shocked at his behaviour, not at her for staying.
fwiw, I know you are - your post comes over brilliantly - your friend is lucky to have you.

Quitelikely · 12/10/2014 19:10

This is truly awful. Gosh I don't think he will change. Those incidents were quite severe. She says she isn't scared of him anymore? How can she not be? She must get anxious when he's had a drink etc

Anyway at this moment in time I do not think you should pressure her in any way or constantly discuss it but just be there for her when it happens again. Christmas is a season of domestic violence as the alcohol often flows, so I would expect something to occur around that time.

It's good she has confided in you and if it happens again encourage her to tell those closest to her such as her parents etc

No wonder he doesn't see his other child. No doubt he blames that on the mother but tbh it always sets alarm bells off for me when a man doesn't see his kids.

secretkeeperlittleweeper · 12/10/2014 19:36

Thank you guys. I didn't know where to turn (dh don't always have the same wave length so can't fully discuss) I knew it would be safe to safe to here anonymously..

I certainly do not judge her for staying. I can't fully understand how age found it in her heart to, but she is certainly a wonderful person. It is him who I hold raw anger towards, I will need to work on a strategy on how I will tolerate him without him picking up on my hatred. Perhaps I'll just spit in his food when we host. petty

It's only been a few he's so I'm trying to process it still.

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secretkeeperlittleweeper · 12/10/2014 19:37

Argh. Bloody autocorrect!

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 12/10/2014 19:49

I don't think you're obliged to keep tolerating the guy in your home. What he does to your friend is disgusting. How are you going to plaster on fake smiles and pretend you don't know what a creep he is? How can you pour him a glass of wine without worrying thst he'll be smacking her around later on? I'm not saying to ostracise your friend but, at the same time, you can't carry on as if nothing has happened.

Squidstirfry · 12/10/2014 19:57

There's not a lot you can do about it realy. Stress to her that she is to call you the second he even raises his voice to her. You will back her up and provide a safe place to stay if shs ever needz. She is lucky to have a good friend lke u

pippinleaf · 12/10/2014 20:00

A dear friend of mine confided in me several years back that her boyfriend, who she lived with, was abusing her. He had thrown her down the stairs in one row and regularly pushed her about and hit her. I was terribly upset and supported her as she left him. A year later he came round and proposed, promised to go to counselling etc. much to my great dismay she married him and they're still together now. I have no idea if she is still being hurt by him as she now won't talk about the past or what he did to her as she feels some kind of wifely duty. Try, if you can, not to be too judgemental and allow her to make her own decisions as then she will feel she can always talk to you. It's so painful but ultimately nothing you can say or do will help her, it has to come from her.

secretkeeperlittleweeper · 12/10/2014 20:08

Cogito- what can I do? They are a couple.
.. We don't drink so ill be pouring it on him before I ever pour it for him. Obviously he won't be frequenting my house as much as I can avoid it. We are due there next.

She has promised to tell me the second anything happens, all I can do is trust her.

When she told me. I just kept repeating "it's not acceptable, not ever"
And gently fished for specifics to get a clearer picture.

I would take her in a heartbeat if she ever needed a safe haven, but thankfully she is in a council house and would be financially safe In that respect. I think that empowers her. She knows she does not need him. It is a choice.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 12/10/2014 20:21

Be honest with her. Tell her that, in the light of the information, you can't trust yourself to be around him for a while. She's still your friend, of course, but you are entitled to have your standards and values apply in your own home.

That's why I said to find out why she told you. What was she expecting you to do or say? Was she really expecting you to carry on exactly as normal without breaking stride? You have said you're shocked and appalled so it will be consistent of you to say you need time to process the information and decide how to respond to him ongoing

secretkeeperlittleweeper · 12/10/2014 20:33

Your right, I need to figure out why exactly she chose to tell me now..

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