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Am I banging my head against a brick wall?

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HighwayToHell · 09/10/2014 14:56

I will try and keep this short-ish and not drip feed.
In a nutshell met a guy on a dating site a year ago, seperated from abusive H three years ago and have 3 dcs at home with me.
From the start his contact was always formal, he spent a month texting me before we met and it was always polites, "How are you" Have you had a good day etc.
He is nearly 50 and he is no Brad Pitt (Im no Angelina Jolie!) just a normal looking man..a little old fashioned in some sense and quite "proper"
We got on well after our first meeting but for the first few weeks, he had an issue with ED,he said I was the first one since he split from his wife so I put it down to that and that sorted itself out
He was always quite cagey about his past relationships and only talked about the time up from his early 30s when he met his wife who was much younger.
She left him and he never wanted to talk about it..but from the odd bits he did tell me, she had initiated divorce proceedings and he finally confessed she had left him for someone else.
During all the time we were together, getting together was always "an arrangement" ie he would say to me..when are you free next..and would usually only want to come round when I had childcare. His contact in between dates was limited to formal texts asking how my day was and I sometimes wondered if I was actually in a relationship.
I had asked him v early on what he wanted and he said..a relationship..I had done the FWB thing and made it clear I didnt want that.
After a few months I asked him where things were going and again re iterated I didnt want FWB, he said as far as he was concerned I was his girlfriend, but I only ever saw him on designated nights of the week when the DCS went to H's house,kept communication minimal between dates and I hadnt met his friends or family. I didnt introduce him to DC's until we had been together 6 months (he has no DCS)
Around about this time he suddenly blurted out while we were on a date that he didnt think we had a future-I was gobsmacked and asked why, he said that he assumed that I would want to live with him one day andhe didnt see himself living with me and my DC's. I told him it was over and he suddenly backtracked saying he was just scared having been hurt previously etc.
I was eventually introduced to his best friend two months later but the situation continued, dates twice a week. I knew his divorce was ongoing and was causing a lot of stress as his wife wanted her share of the house but he kept v closed about it all..the only thing that I did discover was that although he had told me that his wife left a year before we met, it transpired that they attempted a reconciliation just three months before I met him, but she left again.
He was invited to a family wedding in August that involved going away for 4 days to Jersey-he went without me and when I asked why I wasnt invited despite the fact that we had been together almost a year, he gave the feeble excuse that he didnt think it appropriate for two people still married to other people, to go to a wedding together! I was pretty hurt..
To appease me, he took me away for a few days and we did have a lovely time but I felt angry. I still hadnt met or had been mentioned to any one in his family, his mum lives nearby and is unaware he was seeing anyone.
A few weeks ago he seemed pre occupied and said he was low as it was the anniversary of his dads death, I also noted that it was his wedding anniversary-a few days later he got the solicitors letter saying his wife wanted all the equity in his house and at that point told me we were over as he didnt think he wanted a relationship after all..
I was pretty upset as I had fallen in love with him and after lots of talks, he asked me to give him space, which I did..I stepped back..so far he has kept in touch and we have been out in the last week or so..he told me in one of our talks that he was fed up because I kept asking him about the divorce etc and its true, I had tried to get him to open up which was a big mistake I know..but he has always kept me at arms length and not discussed personal stuff with me so I wanted him to know I was here for him to lean on..
He has spent a lot of time crying and I know he hasnt been eating or sleeping properly..my close friends and family say that the divorce has obviously caused him major stress and he probably feels he cannot cope with a relationship right now and I should just let him come to me..but..
I am wondering if its worth it..or am I dealing with an emotionally unavailable man who may be incapable of ever loving me and possibly isnt over his wife.

I am a lot stronger than I was when my H left for another woman, so if I have to walk away..I will

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tipsytrifle · 23/10/2014 20:22

I had an overly extended liaison with a man who was emotionally unavailable. He would arrange a meeting oh, once every six weeks or so. Said time was limited due to work and various commitments.

OK I wasn't into a full on romance. Then I realised he had time to go to London, Manchester or wherever for this, that and the next thing that would have made for great dates. He happily texted me to share how his day was going. He never even thought to invite me along. This was time already planned before my existence in his life and I had no spontaneous role. His year was planned out. I was a pleasant add-on lol.

He has Aspergers. He meant no harm but was permanently unavailable and I ended it. I will always worry for him and hope he finds some sense of happiness - but I will never know.

Concentrate on what you need and desire from a relationship. This doesn't sound like "it" . The bigger question might be what makes you stay when you know you have to go?

tipsytrifle · 23/10/2014 20:29

How about something simpler like this:

I'm afraid this isn't working for me.You said recently that you didn't know if you wanted a relationship and weren't sure how you felt about me. In the light of this and my own current feelings, it's best that we go our separate ways. Wishing you joy and happiness, HtoH.

Your version is too full of emotional stuff and an attempt to judge and educate him. What if he has Aspergers? He won't have a clue what you're on about! Clear calm and decisive. Just my opinion Wine

PetraThePanda · 23/10/2014 21:57

About your letter - I lked it but would suggest you take out "I'm afraid" and the two pleases.

HighwayToHell · 23/10/2014 22:56

Thanks Tipsy and Petra
I have often wondered if he has Aspergers as he certainly displays traits..He certainly does t seem to understand emotions..
I have re typed and just said This isn't working..You aren't ready for a relationship and you have said you aren't sure how you feel about me.I think it's best we go our separate ways and I would appreciate it if you would respect my decision and not contact me.
I've kept it short and to the point
Believe it or not he has texted this evening. .going on about how his last holiday with his wife was better! I didn't reply

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HighwayToHell · 24/10/2014 07:41

I have now sent this text to him

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HighwayToHell · 24/10/2014 12:38

He has texted back this.
What on earth is your problem? I'm on holiday..

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tipsytrifle · 24/10/2014 13:16

I think it was unwise of you to include anything that he felt a need to reply to. Like offering your analysis of where he's at. Still, his rather offended response possibly rules out Asperger's and brings us back to square one.

If you want to end it then it's about YOU. Stop trying to shove it onto him. Do it clearly, kindly and firmly. In such a way as no response is required.

You're making this into a drama to be respectfully truthful.

Hissy · 24/10/2014 14:30

He'll never get it. Just keep walking
sorry! :(

HighwayToHell · 24/10/2014 22:53

Hang on..I sent him one text..saying it was over which you all advised me to do..The first draft I was advised wasn't a good idea so I re drafted the short and sweet version saying it was over and I haven't replied to any further contact from him..not sure what I've done wrong..Sad

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HighwayToHell · 24/10/2014 22:59

This is the one and only text I sent him..and I didn't really think there was much that could be responded to with it..It spelt the situation out to him...
It wasn't asking him to respond with what ifs and excuses..I was advised to text him and say it was over..I have done..so not sure where I've gone wrong..I am trying to ignore any further communication from him and have sent him nothing other than that text so I'm not quite sure how I'm over dramatising things...This has been very hard for me to do Sad

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Hissy · 24/10/2014 23:08

I think you have been far too patient tbh! good for you for sending the text. he had it coming for a long time!

be kind to yourself, this stuff hurts a bit, but not for long.

HighwayToHell · 24/10/2014 23:19

Thank you Hissy..I've found this very difficult but tbh him going abroad without me made it a tiny bit easier and has given me a chance to reflect too..I know that what ever he may say. .He doesn't love me and I doubt he ever did..its all about him..every time I tried to discuss things he stone walled me..when I caught him receiving messages from a dating ap 5 months into our relationship..He turned it on me..and made feel in the wrong..claiming he just never deleted it from his phone..I fell for it..He has treated me so badly..I can't think of one nice thing he has done for me but a million things that caused me pain

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FunkyBoldRibena · 24/10/2014 23:40

Good. Now block him and dont spend any more time worrying about it.

AtrociousCircumstance · 24/10/2014 23:47

The text was great. Not over dramatic at all. Well done.

Onwards and upwards!

Hissy · 25/10/2014 05:29

oh love! :( I feel your pain, that's awful!

looking at this objectively though, now you know that he'll never make you happy and there's no point in banging your head against that wall.

he's taking up the space where a good man should be.

DeMaz · 25/10/2014 07:34

Well done, OP!

Now, block his number and e-mail and ignore, ignore, ignore!

He doesn't deserve one second of your precious time! He's wasted enough.

HighwayToHell · 25/10/2014 16:10

Thanks all..I think one of the reasons why I clung on to the relationship because I thought it was my last stab at happiness. .despite everything that his ex is doing to him via the divorce the silly old git still has her on a pedestal..I'm sure once she's emptied his bank account he will wake up and smell the coffee but I'm long gone. .He just wanted me as a future option like a back up plan..I feel so bloody used and deceived now..but am sticking to my guns....I seriously doubt I will ever meet anyone else ever when I'm ready I just couldn't do the online thing again

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HighwayToHell · 25/10/2014 19:37

Not a lot to block..He isn't on Facebook didn't email me.it was just texts so I've blocked his number so he won't be able to get in touch..He lives in my town but no worries about him coming round..He never called round once..only came round on pre arranged evenings..says it all..Sad

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Hissy · 28/10/2014 07:24

how are you doing Highway?

HighwayToHell · 08/02/2015 23:32

Just thought I would update-I went NC and suddenly he pursued me as I suspected.he would...in a moment of weakness I go back together with him..and he has been Mr Bleedin Wonderful since..he is now divorced and seems quite happy but..there are no future plans made..he talks about potential holidays together etc but Ive realised I dont want that..I want someone to share my life with..he still only comes round on pre arranged eves and is now talking about sellng his house and downsizing..we are into our second year together but it just feels like groundhog day..so today I ended it once and for all..because all he wants is someone to date and its not enough after all this time and this time I feel strong and happy with my decision

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