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I'm really not coping since he left

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MandyBear · 09/10/2014 14:50

I don't know if anyone can help me. Reaching out over the internet in desperation because I feel like I'm not coping.

I went through a breakup last summer that was really difficult. I'd been through a really bad year and had depression and he'd been really supportive but he had problems of his own and I think it all just got on top of him. We didn't argue or anything or have a rough patch but one day I was going through a really bad depressed point and was quite hard to live with and he just looked at me, started to cry and told me he was sorry but he could not marry me and he had to leave.

I thought he was joking at first, but it turned out he wasn't and he moved out within about two weeks of the house we'd shared for three years.

He got back together with me once about three weeks later, which lasted a week then he did the same thing again. Then a couple of months later we got back together again for three months then he did the same thing again. So it was an up and down ride for a while.

It took a very long time to get information out of him about why he did what he did because I didn't realise how much my depression had affected him, but he told me in tears after he'd left how he used to love coming home to my lovely smile, and over the past six months he'd been struggling at work and had his own problems and coming home to find me in tears and still in bed had ground him down. He said he wished he had talked to me but he thought his job was to try and give me love and patience, so he did that until it exhausted him.

He said was that he loved me very much, and leaving me was the hardest and most painful thing he had ever had to do but that he had to do it for his own sanity.

I wish he'd told me this was how he felt, so I could have taken a long look in the mirror (and seen he was right in a lot of ways) but he didn't do that and I genuinely was not aware of how diferrent I was, how needy and weak it made me and how much it affected him. He just kept it inside, told me he was happy, and just left.

I was a strong and positive woman when we met but depression changed me a lot. I leaned on him emotionally, financially and practically in a lot of ways. I was still really loving towards him, but I can see that it put pressure on him.

Although I was devastated and in shock, I took his words on board, and made myself independent and strong since he left. I got into treatment and am now no longer depressed. I started a business doing my dream job and am now very successful. I learned to drive finally. I have managed on my own with a child (not his) and I have been through counselling and feel like a much stronger person.

This is all good, but deep down, I am still just completely broken hearted inside. Although I am achieving all my dreams, none of them seem to matter or have any meaning without being able to come home and share that with him.

I pulled off the biggest job of my career yesterday, something really impressive and friends and family are telling me they are proud of me, but I came home from it and just lay there crying for hours and hours because I couldn't share that with him.

I miss him and it never seems to go away.

In terms of our relationship nowadays, it is hard to explain. Leaving me was incredibly hard for him, and he managed that by being cold and refusing to talk. The pain of that, and the way he just removed himself from my life completely was really hard. I felt betrayed and I felt like he had jumped ship on me when I was ill instead of helping me. I felt like if I was ill he should have told me how it was affecting him instead of pretending it was fine and leaving. My feelings are very mixed because I feel sympathy for him but also a lot of anger and hurt.

He's not seeing anyone else, and he's been suferring with depression himself since he left so he is quite sad and lonely himself. I have dated a few people, but none of them were him and I felt like it was just trying to cover the pain and I've decided not to date anyone until I feel more healed.

We don't see each other or talk regularly, but we do check on each other by text and that comes in bursts. Usually I am the instigator, although if he drinks, he does drunk call me and he says he is sorry for what he did to me, that I was a good person, that he loved me very much but that he hadn't know what else to do. He said he didn't understand depression and he thought I had just changed into an unhappy and negative person and he missed the girl he loved. To be honest, before he experienced depression himself he had no idea that it was a real illness and he'd though (but not said) that he felt I could snap out of it so he was building resentment inside.

The last face to face contact I had with him he called me up one Sunday evening a couple of months ago in tears and told me he missed me a lot, that he'd really loved me but that love had been chipped away because he felt like I was always unhappy or always negative and that he had to keep trying to sort my life out. He said he was really proud of the way I'd gotten myself together the past year and a half, and he said maybe we could be friends and see if it led to something more. He said he felt that if we'd met at a time in my life when he (and I) were more together that we would have ended up married and happy. We did end up having sex (not good I know) but the next morning he was quite cold and told me it hadn't been a good idea.

I don't really know what to do.

He's not struggling with depression himself, and he feels that I am to blame for it and his emotions are muffled and he's quite dark compared to how he was. He pushes me away but also pulls me back. There's no clear signal of how he really feels and I think he is so confused and messed up that he doesn't really know himself.

I am now mentally very healthy and strong, but also missing him all the time and just wanting to find some way to fix all this. I still feel like a future without him in it would be worse than any other life I could have. I do feel deeply like we just belong together.

I wrestle all the time with up and down emotions. I have a lot of sympathy for him because I think he did love me a lot and tried his best but that he didn't know how to cope with me when depression came along and he didn't know how to tell me it was affecting him so much.

I also feel really angry, because in committed relationships you are supposed to be able to navigate these ups and downs and he could have or should have talked to me about all this instead of handling it the way he did and just disappearing and leaving me to handle a cancelled wedding and all the humiliation and stress. He made me believe he liked looking after me, which I think played into the dynamic of me not getting help.

My head (and all my friends) are telling me that there's no coming back from the way he handled this and all the hurt he caused by just disappearing and doing it to me three times, but despite all that my heart won't let go.

I really want to just find an answer that feels right for me. Should I give up and move on? Or should I try and find forgiveness and patience and keep hoping for a result that might never come?

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MandyBear · 09/10/2014 14:50

Sorry that was so long, I didn't know as I was writing it.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 09/10/2014 15:12

It can be hard work caring deeply and trying to support someone with depression and people often end up suffering themselves.

He left, you rallied, you got treatment and worked your socks off. That is a great accomplishment and not just for you, but for your child.

There is more to gain from looking ahead than backwards. I know you say you retain strong feelings for him. That incident where you got together dtd and then he switched off and was cold to you. Is that going to recur? Going further back, after those weeks and months yo-yoing when you were confused and he kept you guessing, was that helpful?

I think the best thing to do would be to write him off now, too much has gone on, if the two of you got back together I can see you forever apologising and making it up to him, you are in a better place now so keep moving forward.

Jan45 · 09/10/2014 15:37

I too would be concerned about the sex then going cold on you, hardly the actions of a man in love - sorry but I think he is more not for having a relationship than having - he probably comes back because he knows you are available and pining for him, change your tactic, it will make you feel happier anyway, try no contact, carry on what you are doing because it's all good for you - don't be so quick to respond to him - you've never really moved on and he knows this.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 09/10/2014 15:41

Had you faced other crises in the three years you'd been together or was this the first real challenge? Depression can be pretty scary to someone on the outside looking in. You can't blame someone for not coping or not saying/doing the right things.

However, I don't think his behaviour since is commendable at all. I'm not sure what he thinks it achieves to ring you up sobbing a year and a half on .... sounds rather self-indulgent in the circumstances. The repeated rejections sound cruel and confusing. When you've got that kind of almost 'competitive misery' dynamic going on, you can get into a race to the bottom very easily. Not constructive at all

I would strongly recommend that you stay out of contact. He's not just unreliable, he's wasting your time and giving you false hopes.

SolidGoldBrass · 09/10/2014 15:46

He sounds like an attention-seeking bellend who's hung up on a romantic fantasy of your 'doomed love' and doesn't want you to move on without him.
Cut contact. You don't need him in your life.

MandyBear · 09/10/2014 15:51

I think we had been through quite a lot of crisis, some of those were his and I think he was supportive, and some of them were mine and he was very supportive.

When we met I was going through a nasty divorce (we'd been separated a long, long time but it was the final legal parts) so when we met I suppose I was in a bit of distress and he sees me as someone who brought a lot of stress and misery into his life.

I've thought about that a lot, and he's right about that, but I can safely say hand on heart that all of that wasn't my "fault", it was just what was happening in my life and he'd said nothing but it was our job to sort it as a team and I wasn't alone in it and he encouraged me to rely on him.

He also brought a fair amount of stress into my life but he doesn't see that. We did meet at an intersection in life where we both had a lot of problems which was unfortunate.

I feel like he was fine with all of that but when I was depressed he just couldn't cope with it. I know that's not the sign of a very dependable partner.

I wish I could just feel a confidence inside myself that I'll be as happy again with someone else because when I was with him it was the happiest I ever was, depression aside.

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MandyBear · 09/10/2014 15:52

I mean I think I was supportive. Or tried very hard to be, but he tended to not want to talk about things that were on his mind.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 09/10/2014 16:02

he sees me as someone who brought a lot of stress and misery into his life

Gee, well, am amazed you lasted as long as you did, but presumably the sex made up for it, and any other home comforts. Ask yourself not what you can do for him but what he can offer you, seriously.

MandyBear · 09/10/2014 16:15

Do you think that was what it was? That I thought I was in a happy and loving relationship but he was just "putting up with me" or my downsides because the sex and comforts made it worth it?

He did want me a lot and thought I was "out of his league", so I have been really worried about that :(

I know I should be glad I didn't marry him only to find he ditched in later life, but I really did feel that this relationship was a really healthy and positive one and if I was wrong about this I'm not sure how to trust my own judgement and instincts.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 09/10/2014 16:39

The last face to face contact I had with him he called me up one Sunday evening a couple of months ago in tears and told me he missed me a lot, that he'd really loved me but that love had been chipped away because he felt like I was always unhappy or always negative and that he had to keep trying to sort my life out. He said he was really proud of the way I'd gotten myself together the past year and a half, and he said maybe we could be friends and see if it led to something more.

My first line to your thread was that supporting someone who has depression can be rough. I stand by that. I think his later behaviour was regrettable, he contacts you when he's had a few drinks, and he can be manipulative:

He said he felt that if we'd met at a time in my life when he (and I) were more together that we would have ended up married and happy.

Telling you that was calculated to get you in a warm fuzzy state of mind.

We did end up having sex (not good I know) but the next morning he was quite cold and told me it hadn't been a good idea.

It doesn't mean that the relationship started off on a phoney or bad note. He was very likely genuine. But that line about you bringing misery into his life - I think youtook the consequences and stepped up. It's overkill to keep on telling you what a tough time he had.

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