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Had an argument with dp today. He's permanent stressed by work, but never does anything about it.

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grenedeer · 01/10/2014 11:24

In the 14 years I've known him, he's been with the same company but had several different roles and several bosses and has complained about every single one of them in a very similar way.

Complaints are generally, they're holding him back, not passing on information, trying to get him to do things in a way he doesn't like or preventing him working to a level of accuracy he likes, always giving him too much work on too short notice and other colleagues being deceptive about what they've done/he's done to make themselves look better.

In an office where most people stick roughly to the 8-hour day they're contracted to, he regularly stays a couple of hours late or goes in at night/over the weekend. He constantly makes vague threats about handing in his notice and getting another job elsewhere for less money or claims he's under attack from managers and will be 'pushed out' but never does anything about looking for another job.

He tries not to bring stress home from work, but my goodness he does.

Today he's told me that yet again he's been given too little time to do something and has been told to get it done well, rather than done perfectly. Amongst some supportive comments I said something about he's being paid to do this job so has to accept that sometimes it means doing what he's told rather than what his integrity tells him should be done. He got cross and said he does this job because . This is lovely but also bollocks, he works in an office, he's not a doctor or a red cross volunteer and although it's linked to something socially good he's in computing not client facing and it was 100% the computing element that he originally drew him to the job.

My frustration is that our lives feel permanently on hold, because I never know what he's going to do; he's never around in the evenings and gets absolutely no thanks or recognition for the extra time he puts in; it's hard to be permanently sympathetic to someone about a situation they could easily change but never do; deep down I think he will always be like this & needs this aggressive/antagonistic atmosphere to perform; once in a while I want an evening to be about me or our children.

So is it me or is he getting the work/life balance wrong??

(I work as well but less hours, less well paid. Enough for us to get by financially and still give the children plenty of family time. In the future I would like to increase hours/responsibility but when I've tried this in the past there has been lots of "I'll support you" but little action to back that up. He earns £32k per year, so reasonable wage, but not enough to make me want to be the 1950s housewife enabling her man!)

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grenedeer · 01/10/2014 11:26

Oops, sorry about the length. Bit of a rant.

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grenedeer · 01/10/2014 12:06

permanently stressed (spelling correction of title & shameless bumping of own thread)

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kaykayblue · 01/10/2014 12:36

Your husband sounds like a massive egoist and an absolute nightmare to work with, to be honest.

I've worked with people like this. They are always somehow the martyr in the office. Never "allowed" to reach their full potential. Always "held back" by petty protocol.

It's the type of person who has a massive ego, and is incapable of realising that THEIR way is not always the BEST way, and really, they should just STFU and do what their superiors tell them instead of bleeting pathetically that their appraoch is the best, because that's what you DO when you are in a job. You can make alternative suggestions (in writing via e-mail so there is a chain) which put forward a few other options for management to consider. But it's management who decides, and you do as you're told. Because as much as some people like to think they are the centre of the world....they aren't.

In reality, they are held back because their attitude reeks to high heaven. They can't show respect for authority or their superiors. They consider themselves the best and their pride won't let them do anything other than PERFECTION, even if that's not what is needed, and inconveniences literally everybody else.

In short, they aren't a team player, and put their own ego before the good running of the team.

He doesn't get thanks or recognition for the extra work he's putting in, because he is doing it for his own ego. If he just did the job to the standard asked of him, then he would probably be able to leave on time...like everybody else seems to manage to.....

I think you need to call his bluff. Tell him if he is so unhappy, then he needs to work on finding work in a different company.

But to be frank, he's going to have this problem no matter where he works by the sounds of it.

roland83 · 01/10/2014 13:36

My partner is like this, but to a much lesser degree... he constantly complains about things at work, to the point where I've suggested a few times to leave if he's so unhappy as there is more to life than being in a miserable job.

I'm self-employed and very busy and sometimes I think it's sort of a competition for him of how busy and stressed we are!

I just say the same things on repeat and it seems to placate him a little, and if he's really stressy I say, well get applying for some more jobs and you cannot stay there.. then he seems to shut up a bit.

Kaykayblue is right, my partner is also selfish at times and can have a poor attitude when told what to do, and I think it stems from that.

I don't really think he is as unhappy as he says, I don't know why he does it.

No really any advice, but I can sympathise a little!

Quitelikely · 01/10/2014 13:47

When I read your post I was thinking your dh must be earning 100k or so working in a super high pressured environment. Some jobs like this require extra hours and the salary reflects that. However I feel as though the situation he is in is if his own making. Who is he trying to kid? Himself. He seems to be putting himself nude huge pressure for.............nothing!

Tell him you don't want to hear about it anymore. And yes he has got his work life balance out of kilter. You would think if he hated work that much he would stay home more!

grenedeer · 01/10/2014 14:32

Thanks for the replies, they pretty much reflect the way I feel. can have a poor attitude when told what to do Oh my god, yes!! Sometimes he'll offer to help at home, I'll say what would be most helpful & he'll go and do something completely different simply because in his own words he cannot be told what to do. Even hates adverts that are strongly worded because he takes it as a personal attack on his lifestyle.

What frustrates me is trying to help someone who wants to complain, wants the sympathy but doesn't intend to do anything about it. Trouble is, each time we talk I take it totally seriously, believe that this time he really means it and then a few days later realise that no, it was hot air again, so it's a massive emotional investment that goes nowhere. Am slowly training myself to say the right thing but let it ride over me.

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yougotafriend · 01/10/2014 14:33

Does he work in Higher Education??? he sounds like sooomany of my colleagues.

There's a saying I like to quote at people and myself from time to time

"do something about it OR you lose the right to complain"

TheMagicToyshop · 01/10/2014 15:21

Oh my God he sounds really annoying. I've also known a few men like this who just feel like nothing is ever their fault and constantly complain about their superiors without realizing the one common denominator is them.

Talking to him sounds like a dead end if he's the type to do the contrite and sorry talk without actually changing anything. Have you tried setting practical boundaries in these 'talks' - eg. only a half hour work debrief time after getting home then work and work related moaning strictly banned for the evening, or family evenings where you plan to play a game or watch a film etc? These are tangible things to change.

In the long term though you will lose respect and love for him over this if it doesn't change, does he realize this? When you say 'Am slowly training myself to say the right thing but let it ride over me' it sounds like you are already giving up on the relationship but more importantly on your happiness Sad

Squidstirfry · 01/10/2014 15:45

I really feel for you and your DC having a father who pushes themselves to work evenings and weekends when they don't seem to need to... That's the bit I wouldn't put up with!
Try wording things more strongly with him- "You are neglecting your family for your work-centred ego boost, and I am beginning to feel as though we are not very important to you." See what he says.

doziedoozie · 01/10/2014 18:50

I recognize this!!

This was me, in a way, the bottom line is that you are not very good at your job and just can't bring yourself to admit it. As it means realizing you are absolutely not who you think you are.

You believe you are clever, articulate, hard working, reliable, so therefore you don't advance careerwise because of something someone else is doing.

In fact you are possibly quite bright, but maybe do not have good social skills, are anxious and indecisive, just do not have flair for your work, but if you admit this to yourself and everyone else what do you do, crawl into a corner and wait for retirement age??

I think counseling to come to terms with your limitations plus counseling to find out what you do want out of life might be a solution.

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