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DH is horrible at times

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tillytomandtinee · 27/09/2014 18:30

DH and I have been together for 13 years. For about the past 5 or 6 years he has been ok most of the time but will sometimes get into a bad mood with me for seemingly no reason. These moods are actually becoming more and more frequent, and I sometimes find myself getting a bit anxious when for example he is due home and I know he's in one of these moods, or when he's in one of those moods and I decide to cook something different for tea. That kind of thing.

These moods are always blamed on me. Today he is moody because he went to work feeling not 100% but wouldn't have a sick day and then on the drive home he phoned me and I told him that one of his dogs had been sick today in the kitchen and that I had cleaned it up but I'd need his help to move the washing machine and clean underneath it as I couldn't move it alone. Apparently I said it with a bad attitude and in a strange tone, hence he arrived home at 5pm in a terrible mood. When he's in these moods he's all over the kids and making a huge fuss of them, whereas normally he's not bothered with them at all.

I end up having to think all the time about how I come across and the tone I say things in otherwise he says I have an attitude problem and sulks. I also feel more and more like I have to try to please him to keep a quiet life, for example in terms of housework.

I have just cooked tea for us all and he literally finished his, left his plate on the table, pushed his chair back and got up, left the chair there and walked off into the other room so presumably he expects me to clean up tonight. He can sometimes be very nasty when he's in these moods, calling me names and deliberately being unpleasant with the things he says to me, then denying it.

Efforts to calmly talk to him about things also result in a bad mood because he says my attitude is bad or that I'm trying to argue when that's not the case. To put it in a nutshell as long as I do everything he says, when he says it and never expect him to do anything in the house and with the kids, he's fine.

I have had enough. My father was always like this with my mother, still is really, to the extent that she's never been allowed long hair in 45 years of marriage as my dad doesn't like long hair! So I am reluctant to continue in this slippery spiral of always trying to please DH. Just after he got home tonight I nipped to the local shop for bread. DH had requested french bread to go with tea but they didn't have any, so I got rolls, and I was actually feeling quite panicky and worried about what he'd say. He's kicked off about stock cubes before!

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tillytomandtinee · 27/09/2014 18:32

He has also said tonight that because I told him he has to help me move the washing machine, he isn't going to hold back any longer on telling me I have to do things and telling me how it is. What the fuck does that mean??

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mouselittle · 27/09/2014 18:34

Did anything happen to trigger the change in his personality that you can think of?
what was he like before?

Rawls · 27/09/2014 18:34

Poor you that sounds really draining. Please leave the chair and plate exactly where they are! He can clear it.

BadPenny · 27/09/2014 18:35

Bizarre and very unpleasant. Seek counselling?

tillytomandtinee · 27/09/2014 18:37

I can't think of anything that might have triggered it unfortunately mouse.

I am tempted to leave the chair and plate but he'll just say I am being awkward and it will cause more sulks and rows.

DD is doing a dance show tomorrow at another town and I am tempted to just take the DCs and to leave DH at home. I don't want to spend the day with him when he's being like this.

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LEMmingaround · 27/09/2014 18:40

Have a look at threads on here about emotional abuse. I think you'll recognise him. And no. You don't need counselling. He needs to stop being a cunt and leave.

warysara · 27/09/2014 18:42

Wow .... leave him in 6 replies. Awesome.

mouselittle · 27/09/2014 18:45

tilly his behaviour has most likely got worse/more frequent because he's getting away with it. I expect you know this already though.

petalsandstars · 27/09/2014 18:50

Wary - would you put up with being treated like this by the person supposed to love and support you?

DarkBlueEyes · 27/09/2014 18:51

His behaviour is utterly unacceptable. You can see what he's doing by looking at your mother. He's got you well and truly where he wants you- vulnerable and able to be manipulated. Grow some and tell him to feck off. It's only going to get worse honey, I'm so sorry to say it but this is abuse and you have to out a stop to it. Good luck.

tillytomandtinee · 27/09/2014 18:51

Have any of you got any tips in how I can stop him doing it please? Is leaving him the only answer do you think?

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supersop60 · 27/09/2014 18:54

wary life is too short to put up with this kind of shit. I would advise counselling (for you, OP to give you strength/strategies) first, and if that doesn't help, LTB.

mouselittle · 27/09/2014 19:01

I would ask him why he behaves this way then I would tell him it has to stop or you will leave.
stop altering your behaviour to appease him.
don't clear up after him.
don't pander to him.

hamptoncourt · 27/09/2014 19:02

You are treading on eggshells OP which is a classic sign of living with an abuser.

I agree with super - life is too short to tolerate his shit and yes, I would LTB.

tillytomandtinee · 27/09/2014 19:03

At the moment a life without having to worry all the time about whether he's going to kick off about a few items not put away sounds very appealing....

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LividofLondon · 27/09/2014 19:16

"At the moment a life without having to worry all the time about whether he's going to kick off about a few items not put away sounds very appealing"

Could you tell him that? And that you're sick of his moods and if he doesn't stop taking them out on you you'll leave? At least stop pandering to him. Behave as you want rather than how you have to to stop him kicking off, because walking on eggshells is very unhealthy.

Milllie · 27/09/2014 19:22

So when did this behaviour start Tilly? Is it a recent thing?

CurtWild · 27/09/2014 19:27

He sounds very much like my stbxh..I was always on egg shells as he'd kick off over the least little thing and I spent my energies being anxious and second guessing every little thing I did. Everything from the words I used to how I phrased things to my tone of voice. If he could pick holes in me or something I said or did, he would. If I nodded and agreed and kept my head down, then he might stay in a decent mood. Or he might accuse me of being too agreeable and therefore 'up to something'.

Ask yourself if you can do this for the next 30 or 40 years. If the answer is no, then perhaps it's time to rethink your marital status like I did.

RedRoom · 27/09/2014 19:34

I posted a link to an article on EA abuse recently and pulled out a quote that I thought was brilliantly worded. I think you might identify with it.

'What I remember most about emotional abuse is that it’s like being put in a box [...] Soon the box starts to shrink. Every time you touch the edges there is an “argument”. So you try to make yourself fit. You curl up, become smaller, quieter, remove the excessive, offensive parts of your personality – you begin to notice lots of these. You eliminate people and interests, change your behaviour. But still the box gets smaller. You think it’s your fault. The terrible, unforgivable too-muchness of you is to blame. You don’t realise that the box is shrinking, or who is making it smaller. You don’t yet understand that you will never, ever be tiny enough to fit, or silent enough to avoid a row – because they aren’t rows.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/sep/07/time-to-make-emotional-abuse-a-crime

magoria · 27/09/2014 19:41

You can't stop him doing this. The only person who can if they want to is him.

Frankly there is no incentive for him to change as long as you stay and put up with his shit.

Only by showing that you are determined not to accept being treated like shit by temporarily separating until he has proved he has changed if he thinks you are worth it will he change.

ROUNDandROUNDINCIRCILESMORETHA · 27/09/2014 20:02

Omg could have wrote this myself. Only our last 'disagreement' ended up with him banging his head on ironing board a few times. I have said i want a trial seperation he said he is sorry. He will be if he does it again as i will be changing the locks. I am glad i am not alone despite it being a emotionally draining situation.

Anotherchapter · 27/09/2014 20:23

op - his behaviour is abusive. You know it because you are seeing your mother and fathers relationship unfold before your eyes.

What you need to do is research abusive relationships as there are many forms. You shouldn't be scared of anyone least the man who is supposed to live and adore you. I've been where you are and it never got better only worse. I'm now with a lovely lovely man (and have been for many years) who would never want me to feel like you are feeling.

Read, read and read up on this behaviour and then make your decision. You also have to take in to account how your dc will view this behaviour. Would it be acceptable for their partners to treat them like this? If he has no respect for you - get some for yourself.

Please don't move his fucking plate. You are not his servant. X

Jacksonville14 · 27/09/2014 21:27

I lived with a man like that - nothing I ever did was good enough. And years rolled by while he continued to treat me with more and more hatred and contempt. The utter bliss of not having to pussyfoot around him is priceless. You cannot change his behaviour - and he won't because he is showing you the sort of person he is. This is not fair on you and it is an appalling role model for your children too. Please get rid. And look here too

www.onespace.org.uk/elearning/courses/freedom-programme

AnyFucker · 27/09/2014 21:33

You can't stop him treating you like a piece of shit, OP

You can simply decide whether you will tolerate it or not

Ignore waysara, that poster seems to think women should suck up anything to stay in a relationship

Your kids are learning damaging lessons here, from both of you. He is teaching his dd's that they must obey men, no matter what the cost. You turning yourself into a doormat is a very poor example.

LTB. Yes, you should

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 27/09/2014 21:43

This is emotional abuse. You can't change him I'm afraid. An abuser believes they are entitled to treat you that way and there is absolutely nothing you can do to change that.