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Am I expecting too much?

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oldandexhausted · 16/09/2014 19:46

I could really do with some opinions as to whether I am just expecting too much or whether my OH is being unfair. (particularly bearing in mind his age)

I'll apologize in advance if it is long.

There is a considerable age gap between my OH and I, I am in my early 40s and my OH is 70. We have 2 young children, both are biologically mine but were conceived using donor sperm. The first my OH agreed to, the second He now says he did not agree to. (He encouraged me to sleep with a one night stand, denies I told him I was ovulating and at 13 weeks suggested I have an abortion. I refused and at around 35 weeks asked who I was giving the baby away to.

For me my unhappiness with his behavior was brought to a head last night. I was feeling extremely ill with a nasty headache (so bad I was vomiting) and when I said I was going to bed (and for information we sleep in separate rooms and have done for several years with no intimate contact) having put both children to bed his response was, 'if you're that ill you'd better phone your mother, you're not going to put on me.' (My OH doesn't like my family, is extremely critical of them and has recently said he doesn't want them to come here.) There was no expression of concern or sympathy for me, no offers of help and this morning the same, he didn't ask how I was.

He says he feels he is an extremely good father yet never does overnights or early mornings, never has the younger child alone, will only entertain the older one for extremely limited periods, an example today was that I had a physio appointment (which he has been extremely dismissive of, telling me I'm wasting their time because I can still move around and look normal - he actually suggested I didn't bother turning up today.) He had the oldest child (4) with him at the cafe at the beach nearby while I had to take the younger (1) to my appointment.

He tells me I'm grossly overweight (9st 8 and 5'4") I stink, I'm making the whole house smell, I need to see a doctor ( I have in the past when he's said this, there's nothing wrong with me and I do wash daily) I'm neurotic, there must be something wrong with me and I need to get help. (last few incidences of this were: today objecting to him using the phone while driving - he actually said a few other rude things about my attitude to this too. A few weeks ago when I was getting agitated about making an appointment on time and another occasion when I wanted to get to the chemist to get a prescription and I rushed down 1/2 hour before they were due to close.)

He does have 2 previous wives who he describes as neurotic and the second as anorexic. I obviously only have his description as to what went wrong.

He is very critical of the state of the house mess/lack of housework/washing/ironing/dog needs a wash.

He no longer has any contact with his family/children and in every instance he blames them (although listening to what he has to say he may well be right)

We have lost contact with some friends, he suggests maybe it's me the took offence to.

If he wishes to sit in front of the TV or spend 1/2 hour in the bathroom he will, I get no such consideration.

To me his behavior seems extremely entitled and anything I say that contradicts him will be denied, minimized or turned around.

His behavior with our eldest child is concerning to me. He feels the only way to deal with it is shouting, if he has to repeat himself more than twice then he shouts and swears at the top of his voice, reducing said child to tears and often then storms from the room. He says he is out of control/rules the roost. He actually said a few weeks ago that child needs a damn good beating so that they are petrified to disobey. Our child has a habit of squealing when he doesn't get his own way.

He has threatened violence in the past but never carried it through. He also has occasional rages where he will throw things or try to smash things. Sulky silences normally follow.

I have no doubt if I were to show this to him he'd deny the lot or twist it round to my problems, maybe it is me? Maybe I just expect too much.

He obviously has good points. He does the breakfast and dinner in the evening and helps with the shopping.

I feel extremely sad and guilty to feel I may be taking the children away from him, he has expressed that he is content, he has his family around him.

Sorry it is so bitty, it's been very difficult to try to write this.

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ISAYwhatIMEANnMEANwhatISAY · 17/09/2014 00:11

Put a tv in there seems as he likes it so much

ISAYwhatIMEANnMEANwhatISAY · 17/09/2014 00:13

If he won't get in it, push him in. Tell him coffin dodging isn't acceptable

Neverending3 · 17/09/2014 01:00

It will be hard to leave Old & Exhausted, but you MUST. It is imperative for your DCs that you give them the best that you can, and currently I think you are trying to accommodate your OH more than them.

No-one will see you and your DCs homeless, without money or food.

Please, please, please do the right thing for your DCs and give them the mother they deserve. You'll look back on this in years to come and wonder why you didn't do it sooner. Very good luck to you, be strong and stay smiling. Do keep mumsnet updated.

Primaryteach87 · 17/09/2014 01:26

Please leave. All the wonderful things in the world couldn't outweigh the horrid things you written about here. I think you know deep down this isn't right but need someone to tell you.

Practically, you could apply to the council as homeless due to abuse/health but you would need evidence e.g letter from GP to say it is unhealthy for you/children to be in the home. Be aware many times housing officers will tell you you aren't eligible when in fact you are.

Alternatively ask relatives if you can stay with them for say a year while you rebuild.

As a single mum you would be entitled to benefits while you have very young children before being expected to work. So you could rent using housing benefit.

LizLimone · 17/09/2014 01:58

He obviously has good points. He does the breakfast and dinner in the evening and helps with the shopping.

That's it? If so, that's an utterly barren relationship you have there. No sex, no affection, constant criticism - you're only in your (presumably) early 40s! It's too soon to give up on life. So you are not wrong to expect more.

What did he bring to your life when you first got to know him? Were you only ever with him for financial reasons?

It sounds like you are wasting your life with a horrible abusive man. Surely living as a single parent would be better than where you are now. Have you any family who could help in the short term while you set yourself up?

CogitoErgoSometimes · 17/09/2014 09:41

I'm sorry you feel trapped in this abusive relationship. His behaviour is horrendous and very little to do with his age. Everything to do with his attitude which is to crush and control. Significant that he talks about his ex wives the way he does. When someone leaves behind them a string of broken women with MH and other issues, the common denominator is staring you in the face..... them

Please don't be held back by your DCs. They are seeing the way you are treated and it will not be doing them any good at all.

NachoExpress · 17/09/2014 10:10

*If his only good points and contribution to this family set-up is his help with the mealtimes and shopping, then I'm sorry, but a nanny does more.

I would get out - you don't owe this man anything.*

This. The man is a nasty controlling bully. He's done his utmost to grind you down and lower your self esteem to make you feel like nothing.

Somebody who loves someone does not treat them as he has. Get out and get as far away from him as possible. You deserve so much better and so do your DC. Get out before his disgusting behaviour has an everlasting effect on your children.

Horrid little man who obviously has some deep rooted issues of his own he needs to deal with.

FantasticButtocks · 17/09/2014 10:26

Am I expecting too much? No, you are not expecting nearly enough.

This sounds like a pretty joyless existence. I wouldn't waste any more time with such a nasty person.

This is your actual life, and you are choosing to let it pass you by. Sad

Wishing you all the strength you need to change your life and start really living for your own sake and your children's.

oldandexhausted · 17/09/2014 11:29

I know I need to leave, I just feel so sad, he really wont believe he's anything other than a great husband and Dad. Surprise surprise he's back in front of the TV again this morning. Thanks everyone, keep kicking me till I go.

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BertieBotts · 17/09/2014 11:42

What FantasticButtocks said. (Great name! Grin)

Honestly I only read to the part where he told you to phone your mother because he can't possibly trouble himself with your illness.

Get out. Do you seriously want to be old and vulnerable with this man? I know that's not going to happen for a long time but he's showing you right now what it will some day be like for the rest of your life if you stay. Somebody who takes care of you when you're sick is one of the basest of baselines for a marriage. Harsh as this sounds, your parents won't be around forever. You can't afford to waste your life with somebody like this.

FantasticButtocks · 17/09/2014 11:42

Does it really matter what you think he believes?

What you believe matters Thanks

BertieBotts · 17/09/2014 11:44

Holy shit and now I've read the whole post - your child is 4, their behaviour only gets more challenging (especially under stress like this), if he wants to beat him now he is probably going to carry out that threat at some point.

Please don't wait around for that to happen.

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