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Think Its over...need a hand :(

23 replies

Threemenandalady · 07/09/2014 15:21

History: Dp and together for 12ish years. 3 DC (5 and under). Relationship has never been right really. We got on very well but he let me down alot. Before we had dc, dp was 'one of the lads' kind of guy, spent every Saturday afternoon in the pub, football came first (and still does now).

I accidentally fell pregnant when i was 24 (he was 25). We were both living with our parents. I copped on straight away and took responsibility, started saving etc, he continued his lifestyle. I felt very let down by him as spent every weekend alone while pregnant.

After i had ds, I fell pregnant again very quickly Blush. We moved in together (renting) but again felt very alone during the pregnancy.

Two years ago i started a four year degree which i am in the middle of. I had dc3 this year, it fell in with my degree but has been tiring trying to juggle it all. things havent been good woth dp and i think we have decided to call it a day :( I know this is the best thing to do but i am terrified of being alone, raising three kids, doing a degree and having no job... Sad I feel like ive made a balls of my life.

Dp has calmed down, he goes out maybe once a month now. I have major trust issues because of the past though. i trust him with other women but dont trust that he will come home, or come home in a decent state. He has embarrassed me so many times..only 3 weeks ago at a wedding, he got so drunk he fell asleep after the meal then pissed himself back in our bedroom :( a few weeks before that he stumbled home and fell into one of the dcs beds (Ds was in with me) and pissed the bed :( Last november his family were over from abroad visiting for an event that d was involved in. we all went to th event and came home at a decent hour (i was pregnant and said id go back to babysitter), he was no where to be seen the next morning and didnt show his face until the following evening, pissed drunk. i was mortified especially that his family were over. These are just three of many, many examples. At that wedding i warned him to take it easy and not drink the wine at meal but he didnt listen. He is always full of shame after these events.

Another issue is his anger. He has never been violent with me but snaps over silly things. If the kids accidentally spill a drink, he'll go mad. If i dropped my phone and broke it for example, hed go on and on about it and how careless i was. he has a real 'i told you so' attitude and it drives me mad. If he came in and the house was messy, rather than assume ive had a tough day, he will huff and puff about how i should be more organised and i should manage my time better.

Gosh, he sounds like a real catch when i have it written out in front of me!!

Another issue i have is that he has no respect for my time. HE plays 2 matches a week and trains once or twice during the week so all those times, im alone with the kids. If i have something on (which is rare, maybe once every 2 weeks) it will always be on his terms. So if i wanted to go in shopping, hed say thats grand but i need you back by 4pm etc

I wanted to visit a mutual friend recently who had a new baby. We had intended on visiting with the kids and make a weekend out of it but a few weeks before i said i was actually going to go alone and if he wanted to visit her then he could go a couple of weeks after me. i just needed a break from the kids but of course when the time came to book the tickets, he said we didnt have enough money. That was fine and i would have accepted that but i just know that we will suddenly have a the money when he is going on his friends stag trip next month which is abroad and gong to cost us about 500e. this will be his 6th trip away in the last year or so (all these trips are stags abroad. We have never had a family holiday aroad though...We ended having a row over this and he threw out his usual 'id like to see you pay the rent' line.

Sorry one more example of his selfishness that always sticks in my mind is that when i had dc3, the hospital were planning on discharging me 24 hours after ds had been born. This fell on a friday. Dp is self employed and insisted that he had to work on the friday, that he had a 'really important' job on. he made a big song and dance and stressed me out that id have to go home alone after having ds. Sp he went and asked my mum to come and mind me, which i didnt want as i just wanted to chill out and i knew my mum would be fussing over me. So in the end i asked the hosp would i stay in an extra night. the next morning i rang him and 'suddenly' his work wasnt so important as he had gone to 'wet the babys' head the night before and was too hungover for work! After all the fuss he made, he ended up not going to this ever so important job because he was too tired but he couldnt accommodate me and his new baby :(. He also went straight back to work the following monday and made no effort to get home early to give me a hand. Two weeks after ds3 was born, I went to a friends for coffee after i had dropped the older two to school. I ended up staying longer then i had intended and between bf ds3 and collecting older two, the housework wasnt done that day. Dp came home and wasnt happy..Im actually in tears thinking back on this...he said my 'priority is the housework not havign 'tea' with X!'

Anyway, things have come to a head over the last few weeks and i have more or less made the decision to end things. we had intended on getting counselling bt i think it is over. I dont see how he could ever change into the person i want him to be.

Im terrifed though. Ive no where to go. My mum lives in an apartment and i am a student. i ahve no money :( At the end of my studies (sept 2016) i will have a good permanent job, not very well paid ( about 26k starting off) but enough to get by with. How i am going to get through this, i dont know...

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Wrapdress · 07/09/2014 15:30

Three kids under 5 - wow - stressful in any situation! He sounds like an alcoholic. You can't win with those types. Their first priority is drinking. Period. You are doing the right thing calling it a day with him. You will figure out the logistics. You sound bright and reasonable.

DontstepontheMomeRaths · 07/09/2014 15:31

Oh love go into the lone parents depr of the job centre. Apply for IS. Kick him out, if you're renting you'll get help with the payments and you'll get tax credits. Then once you're qualified and return to work you'll get help to pay childcare, assuming you're not earning above threshold.

It will be ok. Life is easier on my own than with my ex. He didn't get drunk but he never helped, was lazy, and rude to me. Life is happier without him. Yours will be too.

He may suddenly become a Disney dad but don't hold your breath! At least if he does you'll finally get a break every other weekend!

You'll be ok. Don't be afraid.

Nomama · 07/09/2014 15:32

^^ this, precisely.

Work it out little bit by little and extricate yourself. I fit takes 2 years and you can put up with him, safely, so be it - though obviously much sooner would be better.

But don't expect him to change - alcohol will not allow that.

Mini05 · 07/09/2014 15:36

Hi

So will you be able to stay in the rented house? Or are you planning on leaving it?

Go on the turn2us website and see what your entitled to, I presume you will also get housing benefit. What about student grant / bursary or anything your entitled to for being a student with dependants.
Start looking now, and finding out what benefits you can get to help see you through till you finishes studies.

Threemenandalady · 07/09/2014 15:43

Sorry i should have said, im not in uk but i will look up what i am entitled to now...Im terrified. Im terrified of not managing..im scared of not spending all my spare time with dc..im going to have to share them, what happens on birthdays and christmas :(.

Id like to stay where i am. the hosue im in is lovely and is very cheap for a three bed house. Im working tomorrow but will go to Social welfare on tues. Im already receiving a payment for being a mature student and i get a grant that pays my college fees. its quite an intense course (and job). i work full time hours on placement and do nights etc.

im feeling ashamed of myself. will people judge me for getting myself in this situation..

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DontstepontheMomeRaths · 07/09/2014 15:47

People judge no matter what. Those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter. Don't let it bother you for a moment.

Nomama · 07/09/2014 15:52

Blech! Sod the nosy bastards who like to judge.

Look after you and yours first. Anyone who wants to look down on you can do the MN Fuck Off thing!

HumblePieMonster · 07/09/2014 15:55

Three children 5 and under, and you're doing a degree? Wow! talk to student support/ welfare at your uni, they'll know who to contact for further help.

You are so close to having it all. Do not for one moment feel ashamed. Your position is potentially brilliant! You're halfway to a career that will allow you to support your children.

OK, so you're having to ditch a lousy partner, but at least you've recognised that he's no good for you and has to go.

About birthdays and Christmas - be clear. The person who does the main caring gets first choice. I insisted on having daughter Christmas Eve, Christmas morning and lunch, her father picked her up in the afternoon, brought her back early evening. Birthdays he was crap at anyway. Tbh, men aren't that fussed, they just want to hold it over you. Be clear and firm.

Good luck. You're going to make it. Thanks

Wrapdress · 07/09/2014 15:58

It doesn't sound like your DH is going to want to spend a lot of time with the children (does he now?). Doubt you will have to spend a lot of time away from them. But on the other hand, you might find that you enjoy the break you get when the kids are with the dad. (I know many moms who never got a break from the kids until the divorce and it was only then that the dads spent any quality time with the kids and the moms got the break.)

The first few times they are with the dad and you are alone you might just lay in bed in the fetal position which I count as normal, but in time you will get more comfortable with it. (That is if you can trust he won't get drunk when he has them.)

Wrapdress · 07/09/2014 16:13

Oh, and about the judging - you're going to get judged for staying and judged for leaving - either way - so you might as well do what you want.

kaykayblue · 07/09/2014 16:40

I don't see what people would judge you for anyway.

For leaving your husband? Don't something like 50% of marriages fail these days anyway? You will hardly be the lone divorcee in the neighbourhood!

I can't think of a single reason why anyone would judge you for leaving him. Especially when it means giving your children a safe, non alcoholic environment to grow up in.

He sounds like an absolute prick. The fact he feels entitled to all these "stag do's" away, whilst you can't even visit a friend alone....

He is shameless.

Threemenandalady · 07/09/2014 17:25

Thanks guys. I think he would want them on christmas day but maybe we could arrange to split the day (but i get the santa part!) Anyway, thats all down the line. I need to get the strenght to kick him out first!

kaykay he is a prick...plus there have been hundreds of other incidences. I just cant believe i didnt leave him when we had no kids...I dont regret the kids of course. without him i wouldnt have them but i dont know what i was thinking..

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Quitelikely · 07/09/2014 17:47

In reality you're like a single parent. This is because he just isn't contributing to family life in any useful way. I also think he has a lack of respect for you too. You know that now though.

So re your finances. You will get tax credits and Now you will get extra financial support from the uni because you'll be a lone parent. This will be in the form of bursaries so won't have to be repaid. It was quite a bit of money if I remember rightly. Also your uni will have an access fund. So if childcare costs or any financial emergencies arise as a consequence of your split go to the uni student support and they can give grants/loans.

I really hope you find the strength to leave. He's done some terrible things and there's no going back from that, especially what he did when you were having dc 3. I just can't get over that.

I genuinely believe your life will be so much lighter without him in it

Rebecca2014 · 07/09/2014 18:08

Why did you have three children with him? I am guessing he can not have been that bad for you to have fallen pregnant three times so quickly. Maybe counselling will help mend your relationship?

I can understand what it feels like to be a single parent when you do have an selfish husband but it seems like he may not always been like that?

WeileWeileWaile · 07/09/2014 18:13

Are you in Ireland ThreeMen ?

If you are, go have a chat with in your social welfare office with your community welfare officer. They can give you lots of advice on what you'll be entitled to while you stay in college - things like family income support and such.

Apologies if your not & this advice is useless.

Threemenandalady · 07/09/2014 21:08

Thanks Rebecca, ye we were once happy. I suppose wen we first got together, ye we were happy. We were young and I didn't mind him getting so drunk. After the first two s&c we would go in and out of good patches (like most relationships I suppose). Bar the drinking, he used to treat me well and we had the same sense of humour. I know that sounds silly as of course he didn't respect me if he was staying out all night etc but in between the benders things were good.

He's a binge drinker. He wouldn't be once to drink during the week or even every weekend but when he does he goes hell for leather.

He's gone out tonight. We had a big row before he left. I'm on edge now as ie to leave at 5:45 for work and I'm nervous he won't come home.

His mother is staying with us for a few weeks as she is between houses. I've told him once she moves into her new house, he can go with her.

Weile, yes I'm in Ireland, thanks I will go and see them on tues. I'm so nervous..I just wish I didn't have to rely on the state but I have no choice at the moment. I can't believe this is it. My phone is broken and I've no one to talk to. I've sent my best friend an email but she hasn't replied yet.

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Threemenandalady · 07/09/2014 21:34

Sorry for spelling mistakes in last post. was on itouch. Just to explain things a bit further with dp. He has had a huge uproar in his family in the last 5 years. i dont want to give too much away but he discovered something awful and no longer speaks to his father.

He thinks he is depressed. He says he feels really high then really low other times. I always say hes like a rollercoaster because he could come in one evening and be overly nice to me and the kids and be on top of the world. hed be full of plans for his business etc then the next evening he will come home in foul humour and bring the whole house down. If he was getting help for this then i would stand by him and help him but im sick of the endless promises to go and speak to someone.

I know it is hard. i had post natal anxiety before and it is hard to make that step but i took responsibility for myself and i wanted to get better and i did. i did everything i could to make myself better, i gave up smoking and alcohol (i was never a heavy drinker, only drinking once a month but i knew it made me feel worse so i gave it up and gradually started to drink again when i felt better).

So i cant understand why he wont make an effort for his family and for himself.

About 6 weeks ago i booked counselling for us but he cancelled it saying he had to work late. i thought we had a hope then but i think its gone past that now. i could be wrong. But i dont even fancy him anymore...Can you get that back? I cant have sex with him. I still get too angry over everything he has put me through.

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Wrapdress · 07/09/2014 21:39

Yup, you're on a rollercoaster and your car is about to pull up to the unloading dock for you to get up and out.

Threemenandalady · 09/09/2014 10:56

I went to social welfare this morning and have got all the forms I need. Just need dp to move out now...I felt weak this morning and started thinking..is he THAT bad? But I think it was more nerves about confronting sw. We're not really talking . It's a difficult situation as MiL is staying with us and do won't be able to move out for a few weeks as he has no where to go. I made a show of myself in sw office! Cried my eyes out to two members of staff...

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HazleNutt · 09/09/2014 11:09

Based on what you have written - yes he IS that bad!

DontstepontheMomeRaths · 09/09/2014 17:29

Yes he's that bad.

I cried too when I went into job centre lp dept. It's hard. Big first step. Can he move in with a friend?

Threemenandalady · 09/09/2014 20:59

Yes dontstep it was a big step. Well done to you :) No i dont think he can stay with a friend..They are all living with their partners/wives and kids. he can move in iwth a family member but it will be about 3 weeks until thats possible. Ive been met with another situation today..dp had a big surprise 30th planned for me for this weekend..a lot of organization has gone into it not just from him but from my family. Im dreading it to be honest..putting on a happy face for everyone.

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DontstepontheMomeRaths · 09/09/2014 22:53

Sounds like an excuse for a piss up where he can embarrass himself by getting wasted again.

What will you do?

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