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How to support DP as he goes NC with his mum

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darksideofbuttonmoon · 03/09/2014 15:48

DP has had a major falling out with his mum recently and has decided to go NC. Without going into all of the details, she's lied about us, made threats and been verbally aggressive towards him. She's not speaking to us either, so I guess she's gone non contact as much as we have. He's so hurt and upset by everything and I'm not sure where to even start with supporting him.

DP is the eldest child and out of his siblings, three have sided with us, one with their mum, and one is a teen still at home and very much under the control of their mum. The three siding with us are also being ignored by their mum, so DP feels guilty because of this. The one living at home is, like I said, very controlled by his mum. He's always been babied, only leaves the house to go to school and DP feels very scared that his brother will become very isolated from the family/believe the rubbish his mum is probably filling his head with/feel like we're angry with him as well.

We've got our own DD so DP is also worried about how this will affect her. She's only a baby at the moment, but he's worried about her missing out in the future or that she'll grow up thinking that her grandma doesn't love her. He's also worried about his mum turning up at Christmas/birthdays and causing a scene (like she did when one of my SILs got married recently). We live hours away from the rest of the family so I think it's unlikely, but it's still stressing him.

Finally, he's also really sad because despite everything she's still his mum and he loves her. He's worried that her behaviour is symptom of some kind of illness, and who's going to help her (from stories he's told me about when he was a kid I personally just think she's just a horrible person).

He's luckily got access to some sort of counselling through work and he's going to look into accessing this, but I'm wondering how I can support him too. It might be my anger clouding things but all I can think is that we're better off without her and we just need to concentrate on moving forward. Any advice really appreciated.

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Meerka · 03/09/2014 18:40

The first thing you need to do is get Toxic Parents by Susan Forward.

Secondly, you both need some time to let the heat of the emotion cool. Parents have a unique crack into the depths of our hearts and the emotions around them are pretty strong when things go wrong.

One of the most important things is your daughter. If she is verbally aggressive to your daughter's father, lies and makes threats, she is no good grandparent. The indulgence she may show to the little one is very likely to come at a price. Basically, if she cannot show respect and be civil to the little one's father, she cannot be trusted to show respect to the family dynamics including the little one.

She might be less of a loss to your daughter than you think.

Also, close friends and aunts can hopefully step partially into grandparental place. But even if not - better an absence than a poisonous presence.

Okay, your husband's siblings. With respect to them, how they react and who they 'side' with, if sides have to be taken, is their responsibility. They are adults, as is your husband. Your husband isn't responsible for them. Also, they may well be highly fed up themselves of lies and distortions and threats.

Fourthly, his feelings: this is really difficult. The Toxic Parents book may be pretty enlightening. But encourage him to allow all his emotions space - guilt, sadness, anger. You have to go through them before you can come out the other side with a clearer sight of the reality of his mother. You never loose the visceral impact of her as your once-loved parent, but when you see her as an adult then you can deal with her on much more equal terms. Especially, gently encourage him to see her as the person she -is- rather than the loving mother he'd like to be. Questions such as "do you think this is what a mtoher should do" may help (thought it's a bit loaded!) and especially "do you think you would ever act that way to your own daughter".

About making a scene - yes, that's awful to endure . All I can say is that you will survive and that trust me, most people will feel sorry for you landed with such a relation, rather than blaming you. If it happens, stay calm under all circumstances. Really. Try to see her as a stranger and reply to her as if she was a stranger, as best you can. Staying calm is by far the best way of defusing the situatoin in the long run. If she sees emotion from either of you, she'll scent victory.

The counselling is a good idea, but only if the counsellor is truly neutral. If your husband gets bad vibes from them, don't go back. But it would be a good idea to find another, maybe.

If he asks you if you shoudl reestablish contact, say no. Not unless or until she can genuinely apologise and see what she did wrong. If that point comes, you can reconsider. Until then, no.

essay over =)

eatscakefornoreasonwhatsoever · 03/09/2014 18:48

Exactly what the PP has said.

All you can do is be there. Support him, remind him of the reasons he has made this decision, listen when he needs to talk. It's bloody hard, I've been through it myself in exactly your position, my DH did it for our son. We're nearly 3 years on now and it has been like a weight lifted off his shoulders - and off mine. It's also allowed DH to deal with some of his own MH issues just as part of working through everything and we are much stronger and happier now.

Good luck, but it sounds like the right decision for your family.

Oh - and beware the flying monkeys. I think that was the worst bit for DH.

Appletini · 04/09/2014 21:20

Children of the Self Absorbed by Nina Brown is good too.

My DH has supported me through going NC with my parents.

What has helped:

  • Listening to me without rushing to give advice or opinions or to fix it
  • Reminding me that family is about quality not quantity and he has got my back
  • Not bringing them up in conversation without warning and treading carefully when presenting me with any info about them
  • Understanding that I am grieving
  • Telling me when he notices positive changes as a result of the estrangement (I'm less stressed for example)
Appletini · 04/09/2014 21:20

PS he is doing your daughter a favour if he protects her from toxic people.

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