what star sign are you? does this apply?

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Jonathan Cainer, Virgo for today. Regardless of star sign, how many of us feel like this?

"Do you sometimes wish you led a different life? If this were a story being hammered out on a keyboard, might you not beseech the author to adjust the plot? Would you not even be tempted to request a re-characterisation of the principle protagonist? Can't you be turned into someone taller? Slimmer? Wealthier? Or, well, I've left the best till last in an effort to draw attention to it. But why not, wiser? Wouldn't that be more rewarding than all the rest put together? You are that writer. You have that power."

I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. But astrology is bollocks!

I really shouldn't post when I've been drinking, but fuck it, and apologies!

I've valued wisdom my whole life, prayed to be granted it every day when I used to be religious. And mostly I actually think I got what I wished for (obviously not humility though, argh!).

High IQ (not the same as wisdom or even intelligence really, but seems to have helped me learn fast at least), and an ability to understand and predict the world and people in a way that has earned me 'psychic' (don't believe in it), and 'Yoda'/'seer' nicknames. It may not even be wisdom at all, but I'm going by what others have fed back to me.

I think it has robbed me of a certain innocence that has allowed many people I know to kind of drift through life in a happy sleep. I sicken myself for even participating in a world so full of atrocity, and for being too weak to do anything but accept the privileged life I've been handed, built on the backs of oppressed others, and not to throw it back in the Universe's face and simply vote with my feet.

Bleh, sorry OP... this thread was probably meant to be lighthearted, and I'm feeling anything but. Its an interesting question, but wisdom (if you believe in the Bible) didn't work out so well happiness-wise for the wisest man on Earth, so maybe its another case of something better in moderation, unless happiness isn't a big concern.

Pisces and yes it applies to me.

I am Libra and having a really tough time for the last three or so years, I have three members of my family who are Narc and frankly they have been hell to deal with. So much so that lately I have recently gone NC. Being Libran, I tried my hardest to please and walked on eggshells as much as possible. It got me nowhere so now I have walked away.

At the beginning of the year Mr Cainer was telling me that this was the year to make firm decisions, know my own mind and set my own boundaries. Which is great until a couple of months ago he was telling that being too stubborn is a bad thing and that being inflexible towards others was akin to being a petulant child.

I have never felt so empowered in my life as the moment I hit no return with my family and went NC. So at that point I am afraid I went over to the "bollocks" vote.

I dont read the silly star thing in the papers and I think Jonathan Cainer is on drugs most of the time or he could possibly be an aquarian .... get off that cloud!

There is however something in it. I was on a dating site (just met someone and both off there)

Im a scorpio and never ever got on with Taurus, Gemini and worst of all aquarius. I always knew a cancer or a pisces would talk to me.

Astrology is for morons. I find it extraordinary that anyone with more than 2 GCSEs takes it seriously.

Tell most of the banking world that then they do actually consult astrologers.

I'd rather believe in astrology than religion

A good friend of mine is an astrologer and yes, they do. It's a sort of science in itself, obviously septic peg and the nut bag Cainer are what they are.

I am a libran. I don't take any interest though, so every libran is going to have the same fate as me. I very much doubt it. The serious side is coming out in me now but I'll bit my tongue or rather my fingers off if I don't say nothing so here goes
Jess. How dare you call people with less than 2 GCSEs a moron. Do you know how hurtful that could be to a young man or lady who has not long collected their GCSE's results to learn they have not done as well as they'd liked and not because they haven't tried but not all people are academic. Some are practical. It doesn't make them morons!!!!. Teenagers have been known to be suicidal over GCSE results.
Are you and yours so perfect or do you have your little child goggles on because yours are young if you do remember one day your little one will be sitting their GCSE's and those words may come back to bite you.!

Oh dear.... Dontgotosleep, I wouldnt take what she said personally to be fair. I left school at 15 without diddly squat and I didnt take offence. Im now 51 and have made a good living.

Sorry, went to the wee..... my son has also just obtained his GCSE's, he did very well for not being an academic. I concentrated on social skills just as much when he was growing up. I now have a fantastic, bright, socially ept teen that will go far without any A* results.

Tinks42 :

No it isn't.

If astrology was scientific, it would make specific, quantifiable, falsifiable predictions which could be experimentally tested.

so would psychology jessy. Id give it a go on that score that youre a rather angry person for some reason.

Me too Tinks. I got one GCSE. Have been with the same company since I was 17. An old friend of mine never got one GCSE and is now in the police. Yet the person who used to call me thick and say you'll be nothing you is on the dole. I'm not calling people on the dole because unemployment can happen to anyone, but when I saw her walking out of the local job centre with her signing card in her hand I couldn't help thinking "Those words have came back to bite you" and here I am with money in the bank my mortgage nearly finished and money in the bank. Some might say not bad for a single mum with no GCSEs

I totally applaud you Dontgotosleep. I am also a single parent, have a lovely home and a son to be proud of. Very "real" people so we are

One GCSE not no GCSEs
Well done to your D.S. Tinks

thank you dont!

i come across lots of "academics" in my line of work and they have no common sense whatsoever. The "academics" I know lead very strange and sheltered lives and can't socialise at all. They have far more emotional problems than any other group, its quite sad really.