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My family are making me ill

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DeckSwabber · 24/08/2014 11:00

I have posted before about my family. I am now at the point where I can't sleep. Every night I wake up with my heart thumping. I feel like shit all the time.

My widowed elderly mum lives with her twin sister. Its a 4 hour round trip. I've facilitated the move, tried to get on with my aunt and to support her in what is going to be a huge undertaking, but she's been against me from the start. She puts on an act but in private she can be vile. She has told me she dislikes me, and has done so since I was a little girl.

My mum has dementia but her sister won't accept this (I privately spoke to their GP). She also has frequent falls. However, I'm not welcome at appointments, to the point where my aunt cancelled an important GP appointment because I was planning to go.

My aunt has also taken my mum off to solicitors without my knowledge even though I'm her active attorney and when my mum was happy for me to go, and has encouraged my mum not to trust me with her money, telling her I shouldn't be involved.

I sold the house and now I take care of my mums money. My brother legally shares responsibility for this but is a total nightmare. He does nothing to help, but undermines me with the family by saying I never tell him anything or involve him (this is simply not true! What is true is that I communicate by email, as I have learned from bitter experience that conversations are 'forgotten' or 'didn't happen'). He has also put a lot of pressure on my mum to do what he wants with her money, a plan which is unsuitable for her circumstances and which would be a disaster on every level. This has upset my mum a great deal and given everyone else plenty to be legitimately disgusted about. The disgust seems to extend to me. This incident left me traumatised enough to take time off work.

I am now getting independent financial advice with the support of the solicitor but my mum is upset about the fee and seems to think I'm up to something. My brother attended the meeting and used the opportunity to try to get the advisor to back his crazy plan even though we've been through this all before and ruled it out. Ten minutes after the meeting my brother was shouting at me in the street.

Over the last year my cousin has made it clear that she doesn't want her mum upset but has made no attempt (that I'm aware of) to help. I get told off fairly often, though I can never quite work out what I've done wrong. In the beginning I called her when things got tricky in the hope of sorting things out together, but I've stopped doing that because she just laid into me and reduced me to tears on several occasions. I also asked my brother for help and he said he'd help but only if I backed him on his business plan - he denies he ever said this.

My brother seems utterly oblivious to the distress he has caused and refuses to discuss any of these events with me beyond saying I have obviously done something terrible to upset my aunt.

So, one of my Uncles is visiting from another country at the moment and I really wanted to see him as I thought it might just bring the family together a bit, but despite hints and stronger hints and then an outright request for an invitation or failing that his contact details, I have been excluded from this visit.

It's like my relationship with my family is completely broken. There is no-one I can talk to.

I feel I have a legal (and moral) obligation to stay with it, certainly in terms of looking after my mums affairs, but it's making me ill.

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 24/08/2014 11:13

Do you have Power of Attorney with your brother to look after your mother's interests?

If all this is causing you stress and unhappiness there is a way you can relinquish responsibility and leave them all to it, if that is what you want.

Have you ever been in ouch with the Local Authority's safeguarding team if you suspect your mother is being manipulated and needs protection from those who are trying to take advantage of her?

DeckSwabber · 24/08/2014 11:29

Thanks Bitter.

My brother and I have joint POA. The problem is, who would look after he affairs if I didn't? Him?

The actual mechanics are manageable. All the post comes to me, I do her banking online, her accountant does her tax return (I supply the information) and the new advisor is great. Its the whispering I can't cope with.

In terms of safeguarding, my mum is being looked after very well apart from the aunt not involving me. I think she thinks I'm irrelevant. However, I do want to make regular visits to see what's happening. I went yesterday and she was in good shape, but the previous time she didn't recognise her grandchildren. I won't be given this information.

Also. I want to see my mum! I'm losing her, and this time really counts. In a year or a few years there will be a death and a funeral and I don't want to have regrets.

I think it would be so different if the family stepped in and helped establish a few boundaries. And just gave me some moral support! I feel I've been left to battle it out with the hostile aunt and my brother while everyone looks on disapprovingly.

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DeckSwabber · 24/08/2014 11:34

*I should add that my aunt is coping well at the moment. There will come a time when my mum needs more care and my aunt is not going to take suggestions from me.

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 24/08/2014 11:42

Well, you know that as long as you have joint POA your brother cannot make any unilateral decisions about your mother's money without your explicit agreement. That's a very good thing. The penalties for not being seen to act in her best interests can be serious.

If you think your mother is being manipulated or exploited you could ask for help from the Local Authority safeguarding team. You can even speak to them for advice where there aren't any concerns about her welfare. Being excluded from your mother's medical appointments sounds extremely sinister when your mother is in such a fragile state. Has she had a formal assessment recently, do you know? It could be that she might be better off being cared for full-time elsewhere

Have you consulted the Age UK website for guidance about your mother's situation?

If the matter is purely one of family antipathy but your mother is being cared for properly then the only thing I can suggest is to completely detach yourself emotionally from them all. Easy to say but hard to do, I know.

Softlysoftlycatchymonkey · 24/08/2014 11:44

deck sounds terrible. Flowers

Why don't you see your GP about your anxiety.

You sound like you are doing a top job in safeguarding your mums money. I've no idea about the legality side of if but you will just have to carry on protecting your mums money and seeing if you can see her as much as you can.

Have been to see the other family members and talked to them about how your struggling and missing your mum?

DeckSwabber · 24/08/2014 11:49

I think what is making me ill is being treated as if I am of no consequence. It really is ok to be shit to me. No-one wants to see me or spend time with me.

Yet only a year ago they were relying on me to sort everything out and I was congratulated for getting everything done so well. I felt really proud and happy to be doing the right thing.

Someone suggested that its because I 'represent' the change. I'm facing up to what is happening while they like to think it isn't.

Someone else suggested that its jealousy - my brother wants me to look like a bigger dick than he does, while my aunt is jealous that I'll make so much effort when her daughter lives next door and they only see her once a week.

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Softlysoftlycatchymonkey · 24/08/2014 11:54

It does sound like jealousy.

You are doing the right thing and your dong it for your mum. Can you start getting tough and stop letting them walk all over you?

How of often do you get to see her?

DeckSwabber · 24/08/2014 12:06

Bitter I can speak to the GP myself as I have the health POA, its really that I feel I'm being sneaky, that it creates an 'issue', and that I will struggle to be heard if I have concerns. I feel like I'm waiting for something to go wrong, or until the family decides its time. If the family asked me what I thought I could reassure them that I support the current arrangement, for now, but would like her to be getting more specialist support for her dementia. But aunt is telling people that she doesn't have dementia!

Also, my brother is all hot air. He would run a mile if he was actually expected to take over. I am convinced that his wrangling over the money is feeding a fantasy because when I asked him to come up with an outline business plan he almost evaporated with rage and then made his wife do it. None of this helps the situation.

Softly thank you. I have a GP appointment but not for weeks.

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DeckSwabber · 24/08/2014 12:16

Softly I guess I see her about once a month. I was seeing her more but it seemed to cause tension and I felt unwelcome. Also, I work FT and am a single parent to 3 children so I need to manage this. A bad experience can wipe me out emotionally for a while and it affects by boys.

I've asked her to spend a weekend with me at my house in a few weeks. She'll be able to see some familiar places and people, which will be good for her (I hope!). But will it make things worse with my aunt? The last time I took her away for a break I came back to a drama about me 'stealing' my mums money. What will it be this time?

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DeckSwabber · 25/08/2014 11:05

Feeling a bit more positive this morning. Catching up on sleep over the bank holiday is helping.

Going to email family now about this visit...

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kaykayblue · 25/08/2014 12:48

OP - I find it genuinely worrying that your mother seems to be having "falls" in your aunt's care, and you are being deliberately prevented from attending appointments and seeing her.

You might want to speak to her doctor and just point out that you are being excluded from contact and from appointments, and ask him to absolutely make sure that these "falls" are genuine.

springydaffs · 25/08/2014 13:01

You've got to try to not mind that people 'don't like you'. Its not you they don't like.

Twin sounds a sinister sort; brother sounds a dick; cousin/uncle happy to hide and hedge. Have you read up about toxic families? This lot tick all the boxes.

Please, don't take their manipulations - passive and/or active - personally. What they are doing has nothing to do with you personally. I agree wholeheartedly that you need to put this to the attention of the relevant authorities eg local authority, age UK etc, as Bitter suggests. A frail and vulnerable old lady is being exploited and the above authorities have the skills and clout to deal with this.

Good that there is a paper trail ie that everything to your brother is in writing - keep that up with your eye on legal implications ie mention all salient points.

There really us NO POINT trying to get favour with people who behave like this. They have no intention of giving it, not be cause of who you are but because if who they are: the way they are behaving says nothing about you, everything about them. They wouldn't be the first to display revolting behaviour when it comes to potential inheritance.

Get onto the relevant authorities to get this addressed so your mum - and you! - are protected in future. I'm sorry this is so awful - or, rather, THEY are so awful.

DeckSwabber · 25/08/2014 13:05

Kaykay I am 100% confident that my aunt wants the best for my mum and would never deliberately hurt her, but she's stubborn, wants to be in charge, and is a bit obsessed with them being twins. Ultimately she doesn't want her special relationship challenged. Most people think its really sweet.

(I don't think my mum feels quite the same way, but her sister is very dominant and hard to resist.)

My concern is that as they both age my mum will need more care and her (aging) sister will struggle to cope but will cover up until there is a crisis. By driving family and the medical professionals away she could be missing out on help that is available.

I do plan to see the GP.

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fortyplus · 25/08/2014 13:13

OP you need to talk to your GP about your health. If you're waking with pounding heart it's likely that you're suffering from anxiety which often causes high blood pressure. I have this at the moment following 3 deaths - 2 of them sudden and unexpected. I went to my GP and chatted - saying I felt a bit crazy - I'm normally very grounded, 'coping' sort of person but I was having irrational fears about my own and my family's well being. She just looked at me and said 'If there have been 3 sudden deaths then it's not an irrational fear, is it? Your fears are based on your recent experiences and it'll take you a while to get back to normal.' Perfect sense when an outsider said it! She prescribed beta blockers which are non addictive. It's worked for me Smile

DeckSwabber · 08/09/2014 07:57

Update!

Aaargh. I know this sounds stupid.

I texted my SiL to see what my nephew wanted for his b'ay. Said ideally something I can sort on Amazon. She responded 'So you don't have to see us'.

True! I don't want to go over there. Last time I saw my brother he was shouting at me in the street. So I said things were difficult and I was doing what I felt I could manage. [nb they don't get presents for my DC so I think I'm being reasonable].

Next morning get a phone call from brother asking to come over with his family. Cue my heart starts going, I really don't want to see him. So I said no. He asked about an alternative time - so I just said I'd rather leave it. He hung up

I don't HAVE to see him, right?

I know it would be better if we were able to get on but when we are talking about what's really important, ie my mum, where we share a legal responsibility, he shows no respect whatsoever for me. He is a bully. He shouts at me, continually interrupts me, refuses to answer questions, gaslights me, refuses to accept information I give him (ie what the GP told me), and has stirred things up with the family when he should be thinking of my mum.

Now it looks as if I'm the crazy one.

He often says the problem is that he's nice and I don't try hard enough to get on with him.

Do I email him and explain why I don't want to see him?

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