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I just realised that my mum might be a narcissist.

4 replies

Anonrightnow · 17/08/2014 22:22

I never suspected this before...she isn't a very social and not obsessed with high status.
She has behaved better recently so I thought that I could reach her. Basically, with nice words, asked her to please treat me like an individual, treat me with respect, like an adult. She reacted like I had said something absolutely horrible to her. She is so hurt and thinks I'm so cold and selfish and started to talk about things I've done wrong (in her mind) lately instead.
She expects me to be there for her always no matter her behaviour. I have my own life now and she can't handle that.
This shit really, really hurts me. I keep remembering things from the past and it's so upsetting. I have been so controlled. Who am I really? It's no wonder why I have so much problems with relationships when I grew up with someone like that.

Yes i'm going to find a therapist but since I can't talk to someone else right now here I am. Shit. It feels so awful.
I don't want to try talk to her again it's exhausting. But the whole conflict keeps gnawing at me from the inside.

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Aussiebean · 18/08/2014 04:28

When I worked out that my mum was a narc it was actually quite freeing. Especially when I started reading the stately homes thread.

It made me realise that it wasn't me. It was her. All the things she told me about how bad I was, wasn't true. That all my faults where in her head and where not me.

Of course there are consequences of her treatment of me. But none of them remotely like what she believes.

It is going to be really hard for you to learn who you are without her influence, but sometimes that is the best bit, because you can leave her behind and go forward

Hard but worth it.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/08/2014 08:43

Hi Anon

re your comment:-

"She has behaved better recently so I thought that I could reach her. Basically, with nice words, asked her to please treat me like an individual, treat me with respect, like an adult. She reacted like I had said something absolutely horrible to her".

Yep, that is typical narcissistic type behaviour from your mother as well. I did not even have to read the second part of your sentence initially because I knew what was coming next.

Your mother's basically made you in her mind an extension of her, no wonder you have problems working out who you are. She trained you to serve her needs.

BACP are good but you need to find someone who fits in with your approach, the first one may not be the right one for you. Also you need to find someone who has no familial bias about keeping families together despite the presence of mistreatment.

It is not possible to have a relationship with a narcissist and your mother will never be the mother you want her to be. She will not ever alter. It is NOT your fault she is the way she is; you did not make her this way.

I would also suggest you look at the website entitled "Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers" as this could help.

This excerpt may help you as well:-

"Children of narcissists keep trying, as if by bonding with narcissists we could somehow cure our narcissistic parents by finding the key to their heart. Thus, we've been trained to keep loving people who can't love us back, and we will often tolerate or actively work to maintain connections with narcissistic individuals whom others, lacking our special training, find alienating and repellent from first contact, setting ourselves up to be hurt yet again in the same old way. Once narcissists know that you care for them, they'll suck you dry demand all your time, be more work than a newborn babe and they'll test your love by outrageous demands and power moves. In their world, love is a weakness and saying "I love you" is asking to be hurt, so be careful: they'll hurt you out of a sort of sacred duty. They can't or won't trust, so they will test your total devotion. If you won't submit to their tyranny, then you will be discarded as "no good," "a waste of time," "you don't really love me or you'd do whatever I ask," "I give up on you." (Note: In many instances, narcissists' demands are not only outrageous but also impossible to fulfill even if you want to please them. Plus if you actually want to do what they want you to do, that would be too much like sharing, so they won't want it anymore.)

If you've had a narcissist for a parent, you are probably not afraid of dying and going to hell -- you have lived hell on Earth. Narcissists cannot be satisfied and do a tremendous amount of damage to their children and partners in their relentless demand for a perfect outer appearance to reflect the perfect inner image that obsesses them. Kyrie eleison".

Anonrightnow · 18/08/2014 21:50

Thank you Aussie and Attila for your replies. It's been a shock to realise this. Talking to her about my feelings has never worked, she hates that and won't listen. Somehow I thought it would work now but instead she thinks I have unfairly attacked her. So....wtf do I do now. Trying to reason with her is draining and probably useless. And if I don't contact her and don't apologise drama will happen, she might turn people against me.

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Aussiebean · 18/08/2014 22:40

You need to change your relationship with her, or go non contact.

Nc is really hard so I suggest you do the first for now.

All conversations you have with her from now on are all about her. Or something that is not personal to you weather, news event, something happening in the area.

Not matter what is happening in your life, if she asks, you Job is good and isn't it cold for this time of year. You dh/dp/bf is well, have you seen what they are building in the high street.

From now on, don't give her any personal ammunition.

Also, depending on how often you talk to her, make it once a week, then once a fortnight then once a month. When you visit, have an exit plan. 'I can only stay an hour as I have an appointment, or meeting a friend' or something that means you have to go.

You can turn your phone off or 'run out of battery again, yes I really need to go buy a new one, will get round to it soon' get caller id on the home phone and turn off the answering machine so she can't leave a message.

The point is, you are maintaining contact and talking about her favourite subject (her) and not giving her any information to beat you with.

You know that she if she doesn't complain about this, she will find something else to complain about you, so you may as well protect yourself.

And if others approach you (although my experience is that people understand. Unfortunately not everyone is as lucky) you just shrug your shoulders and say 'you know mum, never happy with anything. I'll give her a call'. (Then ignore them).

As you go through this journey, you will come up with other strategies that work for you and will build your own boundaries.

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