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Am I worth staying with?

9 replies

IveBeenAnIdoit · 12/08/2014 15:45

I am looking for honest opinions and some helpful advice if possible.

My DW and I have generally been happy together throughout our relationship (or at least from my side and I have no reason to believe my DW sees things differently). However, I have not been the man I should have been. Here is why:

I was in an abusive relationship prior to meeting DW. My ex was the abusive partner. I ended up losing contact with many of my old friends as my ex wasn't happy with me going out very much and was very controlling. It also got physical with her hitting me on a few occaisions before I finally left her. The relationship lasted 3 years during which time I developed a defensive side when my ex started arguments (which she did often and for no reason). During our relationship she cheated on me at least once. Now, I know I was a fool to stay as long as I did but that is in the past...what I need help with is how it has affected my behaviour in my current relationship.

So, over the years with my DW I have not been as supportive as I should have been. We have 4 children, 2 that are from DWs previous relationship and 2 that are biologically mine. I love all of them the same and I try my best to be a good father and role model to them all (not perfect but I try).

Over the years I have not been as supportive as I should have been, which has led to DW getting angry with me and us arguing. There have been times when I have behaved unacceptably, which I think is due to my defensiveness learned in my previous relationship. These have not been numerous (4 or 5 times over a number of years) and have never been physical (never have or would) but I have certainly been very nasty and not been able to see things from DWs perspective. I do see my behaviour as a serious issue and do not want to underplay any of it. I can't bring myself to write any specifics but I have brought her to tears on those occaisions. Never called her anything horrendous or tried to belittle her but I tended to be unrelenting in the arguments and would push and push when I should have seen how it was upsetting her and stopped to really listen to her and tried to understand her (very valid) concerns.

My DW is amazing and has not left me (although I now wonder why she didn't). I now can see things more clearly and feel horrendous about the instances were I was basically a nasty human being. My priorities have always been my children and DW, but I am now trying to be less defensive and really show that I put all 5 of them before myself.

I am focussing on being supportive and will go to the end of the earth to ensure they are all provided for, supported and happy. However, I can;t help thinking my previous behaviour cannot be undone and that I don't deserve my DW. I know I need to forgive myself (DW says she forgives me) but find it really hard. For context I believe I am generally a good father (love my 4 boys and would give everything for them), I have a good job, am intelligent (logically), generous hearted, I believe DW finds me attractive and our sex life is good. If my marriage ever ended I would never badmouth DW to anybody (she is a great person), would be there for all of the DCs and would support them all financially etc.

Obviously, this is all from my perspective but I think/hope DW would agree with me.

OP posts:
BarbarianMum · 12/08/2014 15:49

Whether you are worth staying with is your dw's decision. Not yours, not ours. Maybe talk to her about this. Then you'd know if she agreed with you rather than having to guess.

hellsbellsmelons · 12/08/2014 15:56

Your wife sounds lovely.
And forgiving!
You need to stop beating yourself up.
Get some counselling/therapy for yourself.
Talk to her about how you feel.
Basically what you've written here.
You need to learn to forgive yourself if she is prepared to forgive.
Take her at her word and work on yourself and your relationships.

Quitelikely · 12/08/2014 15:57

It seems like you have been self reflecting upon your own bad behaviour and made a conscious decision to change it for the better. This will benefit everyone and I applaud you as most people don't seem to have the insight to admit that they've been awful to someone let alone change their ways.

Unfortunately when we leave an abuse relationship the effect it leaves on us can rumble on for years. It sounds like your old relationship got in the way of your new one but if anything you need to use it as a marker of whats not acceptable.

Good luck

IveBeenAnIdoit · 12/08/2014 16:17

Thanks for your comments.

We have talked about it and that is how I know DW forgives me. My concern is that my behaviour cannot be undone and I'm worried it will always be the monkey on my DWs back. Also, I find it harder to forgive myself than DW does (I believe her). I suppose I just need to follow your advice Hells and Quite. I never really thought about how that relationship carried into this one...I am angry that I allowed it to but now I am aware I can begin to move on and be thankful for the amazing DW and DCs I have.

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AnyFucker · 12/08/2014 16:24

Has something happened recently to prompt this period of self reflection ?

IveBeenAnIdiot · 12/08/2014 16:52

Any, sort of. We very nearly had another episode of me being horrible as I went through a period of insecurity about my DWs feelings for me (which I now do not doubt and know I was unreasonable) and got defensive. I was a bit of an idiot but I controlled myself as the feeling was less strong. I suddenly realised the problem was mine. Fortunately, I stopped and reflected upon why this has happened on a number of occaisions. I also looked on here and began to learn from posts and advice about women with horrible partners and this made see things more clearly. I then thought about why I did what I did and what I should do.

Basically, it is when I feel threatened or insecure that makes me defensive and be awful to my DW, which I believe is a result of my previous relationship. (not excusing as I know it is wrong and I am not balming my ex either...it is my problem to solve and I know I am on the road to solving it).

AnyFucker · 12/08/2014 17:01

Have you name changed midthread ?

AnyFucker · 12/08/2014 17:04

Have you recognised yourself in these "horrible partners" detailed here on MN ? You certainly sound like one of them. What concrete steps are you taking to solve it ? I hope you are not the same guy who is relying on his wife telling him when he "lapses".

Darkesteyes · 12/08/2014 17:11

Have you been controlling towards your wife OP?

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