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What do you make of this "advice"....

33 replies

highlighta · 11/08/2014 10:00

Some years ago my dh cheated on me. I was devastated and ended up in hospital with a nervous breakdown. He worked away a lot, and it was during one of his extended overseas trips that this happened. (6 months). We stayed together post-affair and things have been better since as we do talk more etc.... dh left that job and got another job so that he didn't have to work away as much.

A few months later I chatted to my father about it. He himself, is on his 3rd marriage and is a serial cheater. I know that he has cheated on his current wife, numerous times.

What he said to me that day, I just cannot believe what I heard. He thought that I was over-reacting and was shocked that I ended up hospitalized because of dh's affair. He said to me that no matter how committed a husband is, all men have affairs. He said that he doesn't know any married man that hasn't had an affair somewhere along the way..... In the industry he is in, he travels a lot also. He claims that when away, things do get stressful and lonely and they all need a little "outlet" from time to time.....

So, what do you make of this comment? Although I see him from time to time, I admit to not having a close relationship with my father. He is totally narcissistic. But he planted that seed in my head that day, and sometime I do wonder. Every single day there are threads about dh's being caught out having affairs. Of course, there are the dw that have affairs too, I am not disputing that, but generally it's the dh with kids and been in longer term marriages that we seem to read more about.

I just wanted some thoughts on this. I have never told anyone about this conversation, but it does play on my mind a lot.

OP posts:
Showy · 11/08/2014 14:05

I am so sorry your father is such a cruel and unthinking person.

It is absolutely not right that anybody should accept being deceived as if it's expected. It's a hideous physical and emotional betrayal.

I refuse to attend dh's work nights out. He works in a profession where affairs are common amongst men and women and they have a sickening code of secrecy. DH has fallen out with colleagues over it as he will not lie to cover their deceit. Affairs are common. Not universal though. Not even close.

pointythings · 11/08/2014 14:45

Your DF does sound like an extreme case, but his POV is not that far off my DM's and I wonder whether it is a generational thing. I discussed cheating with my DM one day and her take on it was that if a man cheated on hie wife, she should 'try to win him back'. Needless to say I told her that if I ever caught DH cheating, I'd serve him his bollocks on a silver platter and boot him out so fast his feet didn't touch the ground - and that he would do the same to me if he caught me cheating. DH agreed with me, my DM was shocked.

I refuse to believe that infidelity in marriage is somehow the norm rather than the exception.

CommonBurdock · 11/08/2014 15:10

I said it was a truth, not the truth. It was an example I gave from my own experience, and then looking at more people and more marriages over the years, that I know of personally, the incidence remains about 1 in 5, just that I know of.
Of course no woman or man should put up with it. And of course there are those married couples who remain faithful forever. Good on them, genuinely. My experience has taught me that marriage creates far more pain than happiness and judging by the volume of traffic on this board I am far from the only one.
If the OP's father was advising her to put up and shut up then as previous posters has said he is indeed a narcissistic arse. Rather than saying that infidelity should be expected, let's say you should always be prepared for it to happen and know what you would do about it, if it did.

arsenaltilidie · 11/08/2014 15:30

I travel a lot for work and I don't cheat and most if my friends don't cheat.
On the other hand, the men that have cheated been caught, dumped, stayed, etc, ALL of them continue or at least try to cheat.

IrianofWay · 11/08/2014 16:17

He's a twat.

Many men may find other women attractive and might, if asked when a bit drunk, admit they are sometimes tempted. The difference is that decent men don't give in to temptation. And even if they do have the balls to be ashamed and not to try and pretend its no big deal.

I'm sorry that you have a father like that.

AnyFucker · 11/08/2014 16:32

If the OP's father was advising her to put up and shut up then as previous posters has said he is indeed a narcissistic arse. Rather than saying that infidelity should be expected, let's say you should always be prepared for it to happen and know what you would do about it, if it did.

Yep

Pheonixisrising · 11/08/2014 17:21

I think your father is trying to 'normalise' his behaviour by telling you this

Glad you are ok now

borisgudanov · 11/08/2014 17:24

That is not advice, it is arrant bollocks. HTH.

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