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DH 'not in love with me anymore'

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startinoveronmyway · 05/08/2014 07:07

I don't know where to start on this. It might out me to a few people on here, but I really need some advice/hand holding as I am so sad.

My husband and I have been married for nearly 9 years, with DD and DS both under 6 years old. My husband has Aspergers. He has been formally diagnosed and also has depression and anxiety and is taking meds for that. We are in counselling with a man who specializes in couples counselling where one or more of the people has Aspergers.

Recently, DH has lost his dad after a long, torturous illness. A month later DH became sick with a mystery illness that the doctors can't understand. It's not rheumatology, it's nothing his GP can understand. He is on a low dose amitriptyline for the pain, and his family and I have noticed he is changed mentally on them. He has a neurology appointment tomorrow to see if it is that, but he was on a long queue with the NHS to get a neurology appointment as they didn't feel any urgency about his case, so he's going to a private appointment.

And then in the last week, my husband tells me he is no longer in love with me. And the reason he gives is that we don't have sex enough.

DH will maintain that there has never been enough sex for him throughout the entirety of our marriage (his ideal is the 'average' of 3 times a week, his words, not mine), but it has dwindled remarkably so, but only to about a couple of times a month, until he's gotten ill, which as been one time in two months.

Because of his Aspergers, he thinks he talk/shares/communicates with me, but he doesn't. He is often lying on the couch playing solitaire, one game after another for hours. Or he is upstairs in his study playing computer games, or reading. He also misreads what I say/do. If he suggests sex and I am up for it, I put down whatever I am doing and say, yeah, let's do it. We will do it and enjoy it, but later he still doesn't believe I actually wanted to do it and just did it out of pity. I'm an honest person and when I say yes or no, I mean it.

Our counselor has said that DH needs to learn to communicate with me more effectively and this is something we are going to work on in the next session. He also said that DH's idea of sex (needing to have sex first and then share with me) is backwards and wrong in the long term (when this is the only way he shares that is). DH also cannot give me a hug or hold hands or cuddle or kiss unless it leads to sex, otherwise he doesn't know how to process his feelings of wanting to be with me, but it may not be the right time/place. He also cannot understand if I have a had a rough day and just want to have a bath and read a book that night. He takes that as a personal rejection and pulls away even more.

My DH is in a bubble, in his own world. An island in the distance, in his cave, alone, only coming out when he wants something (sex).

I had a chat online with him yesterday (best communication in months from him) and he is insisting that it takes two to tango and until I desire him physically and have more sex, he cannot be in love with me. He refuses to acknowledge that the burden of change is on him.

I said to him that I am lonely in our marriage. And he said 'I'm there 24/7? Why are you lonely?' Says it all really.

So here I am like a numpty still wearing my wedding ring, hoping the counselor can help him/us and still in love with a man like this. I know it is probably over. I know I mostly likely will be happier without him. But I can't help but to think, I took a vow for better or for worse, in sickness and in health. DH has been through so much in the last year that would crack anyone, let alone someone with AS.

Sorry for the essay. It feels so complicated and hopeless. =(

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frames · 05/08/2014 07:13

It doesn't sound like he is going to change. By the sound of it you have done what you can to make it work. Do you want to spend the rest of your life like this?

startinoveronmyway · 05/08/2014 07:21

No, absolutely not. I know I deserve better. But there is that glimmer of hope still there saying 'maybe with the bereavement and stress, he just cracked and is taking it all out on me'.

But then, if he doesn't understand what love/sex/marriage is, how can I compete with that?

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HumblePieMonster · 05/08/2014 07:28

Even people with Aspergers can fall out of love.
Even people married to non-Aspies can be lonely in marriage.

If he made you feel valued and loved, there wouldn't be a sex-shortage, would there? Have you told him that? Presumably so, as you're in counselling.

Have a last shot at this. Tell him simply, plainly, with examples, exactly what you want from him. Tell him what it is about your relationship that hurts you. Tell him that if he is really sure that he does not love you, he should leave but that he should think about it first because once he's gone, that's it.

Communication online sounds effective. Email him!

LuluJakey1 · 05/08/2014 10:12

What was your relationship like before all the stress of the last year or so? If it was better and happy then I think there is hope. If it has always been difficult and unsatisfying, that is hard to see a way back from.

startinoveronmyway · 05/08/2014 12:10

Yeah, it has been difficult. And I may lay myself out to be lynched, but I believe that is due to his AS. BUT, I have learned myself how to have a healthy relationship with a person with AS, to understand them and really go out of my way to accommodate the differences of their needs. I haven't expected a 'normal' marriage by any means. And while it hasn't been ideal, it hasn't been horrible either.

But he doesn't seem to have done the same, to understand his deficiencies and work to improve them (and our counselor has said that he can change/improve, but its up to his desire to).

But the last year has set off a series of stresses, knee-jerk reactions that has made his self-imposed isolation more extreme.

Just been to the cab for advice. Will need to go again as our case is complicated financially, residency status, etc.

So I am in the mind-frame now that it IS over because I can't sit here and wait for a miracle. It's torturous.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 05/08/2014 12:19

You have been very candid I am sorry you are in this situation. I can't imagine how it feels knowing your best bet at communicating seems to be by chatting online with your own DH.

My understanding of Aspergers is that it has the effect of causing a sensory overload? Hence your DH withdrawing into books/computer games/solitaire. Bad enough when you are left feeling isolated but the sexual side of things must be a whole layer of extra pain.

Consciously or not your DH acts as if you are somehow privileged to share the air he breathes. You've been running fast to keep your marriage going but now wonder if you're actually going in the right direction. It's not being disloyal or unreasonable to question when are your needs met?

Sorry no pearls of wisdom but couldn't read and run, best wishes.

whatisforteamum · 05/08/2014 12:35

im wondering how much of this is an aspergers thing or a male thing.I say this because my DH told me he doesnt feel loved without sex.A couple of yrs ago when we only had sex every couple of months he said we should consider splitting up.He could see that i worked hard,kept a clean house, got the kids to and from school but to him love is sex and vice versa sod all the other things.He even wouldnt go anywhere or make an effort without sex.I agree bearevement must knock anyone for six and wreck havoc with anyones feelings for a long time.My DH wouldnt hug me or kiss me when i lost my sex drive as he would only do it if it would lead to sex which made me quite lonely.Good luck with it all .

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