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Where do I draw the line?

58 replies

umbongoumbongo · 14/07/2014 11:58

Been with my 'D'P quite a few years now. I'm that kinda age that everyone is getting hitched/having kids. Background is that I have no kids but he has several who we have every other weekend and odd days here and there. I get on well with the kids (although the youngest is hard work), with his ex and with his family. It is him who is the problem.

I went on a girls weekend this weekend and didn't know many of them. Had a brilliant time but what struck me was how different my relationship is from theirs with their OH's. Mine puts me down a lot. One of the comments when I showed him a photo from our trip was 'why does a 'certain part of your body' always look like that?' in a derogatory way. Not 'you look really lovely' or something pleasant. I showed him a photo of me wearing a new item of clothing and said 'I'm really pleased with how this looks on me' and his response was a big silence. Some of the girls I was away with were quite shocked when I said about his fattist comments. It's killing our sex life as I don't want to get undressed as I know what he's thinking. Also getting fed up with questioning about 'you guys have been together ages; when are you getting married then?'

His response to me when I got home yesterday was to be annoyed that I was home earlier than expected (he was hungover as had had the lads round so fair enough). I put it down to being hungover. By the evening he was still being off with me to the point of rudeness. I bought him a (tasteful and decent) present back from the weekend and he just said 'It's ok'. Thanks for the gratitude. Maybe I'm being paranoid due to the atmosphere he is creating but I feel like he's had a blokes weekend and probably been slagging me off to them all.

I was excited about my weekend as don't get away much and I felt like as soon as I stepped back through the door it was the usual moaning and negativity. I had a chat to his Mum a few months ago saying that I couldn't cope with his mean attitude much longer (she said they get frustrated with him too and can't understand why he seems to want to exist in selfish bachelor mode rather than move forward with me) She obviously had a chat with him and he had been better since then. Now I feel like I did a few weeks ago. Trapped, living somewhere with someone who makes me feel like shit half the time and is sapping my happiness. He is quite controlling. I'm not a big money earner or a stunning model but I do have creative talents (so of course I'm not in the same money earning sphere as him as creative stuff never pays as well) and I might not be Stepford wife type but I feel I try to be a good person and I make a lot of effort with his kids, cooking, his family etc. I try to contribute where I can financially but I can't keep up with someone in the higher earning bracket.

I've been looking at rental accommodation online this morning to think about what my options are should I decide to leave. I'm very stuck. My tenants are in no hurry to leave my house (I rented it to move in with 'DP') and my money is all tied up there. My tenant is life limiting ill so I don't want to push them out while they are looking to buy somewhere. I also have animals and a business which would make it difficult finding a room/small place by myself. I could move back in with parents but at my age I really would feel that is a huge step back and not fair on them. What to do? How much do I put down to 'everyone has ups and downs' and how much to 'actually he just isn't a very nice person some of the time and do I want to stay with him as the bad times are outweighing the good times'? Bit sad really. Sorry it's a long OP but didn't want to drip feed and I need to move this situation on one way or the other so could do with some good advice!

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CarbeDiem · 14/07/2014 14:44

So OP - he was twat with her too then.
No he's not likely to improve - I feel you know that already.

It's not going to be easy if you'll see him every day at work but you don't have to speak to or even acknowledge him if you choose not to.

OorWullie · 14/07/2014 15:01

I too think you might be better off at your parents' for the short term- you can decide what to do from there rather than trying to sort out new accommodation etc whilst also feeling miserable about still being stuck with him.

Can you have an informal talk with your tennants, say there is no pressure and you're not going to give them notice etc till they've found somewhere but that you would like to move back in or sell up, that way they are aware that they need to be thinking about making way for you.

umbongoumbongo · 14/07/2014 15:11

Yes I do think that I need to have a chat with them (tenants) to be clearer on what they are doing and my parents too just in case I need to make a move. I just don't want to worry my parents; Dad is not in the best of health and my Mum is a total stress head so will just drive him mad worrying if I say anything. I had a terrible and traumatic break up with my ex I bought my house with which ended up in a horrible legal battle so don't want to put my parents through any grief like that again. I must attract such lovely people Hmm.

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Jan45 · 14/07/2014 15:22

He sounds like he has nothing for you but contempt so no, this is not a normal healthy relationship, he won't change, in fact you will probably become more down as time goes on with him, give yourself a break and a chance of happiness with a man that actually loves you.

MexicanSpringtime · 14/07/2014 15:24

You sound lovely, OP.

Could you use the rent from your tenants to rent elsewhere? I know you say that you also use the money to subsidize your business, but at the same time, business is picking up.

umbongoumbongo · 14/07/2014 15:53

Thank you… That is what I was thinking but renting round here is stupidly expensive from looking today. If I could find somewhere that employees would like someone in an annex or similar with part rent against some part time hours helping with animals/books/kid school runs/garden etc and not mind a dog then that would be ideal. We are in a rural/expensive area hence high rentals. Alternatively I'd happily live in an old farm building if it had space for my business equipment but it's just finding it. I can live quite simply! Just need creative/work/animal space at an affordable price. Business is good now but it is very much peaks and troughs so I can't rely on just that and need to keep my part time job for reliable income.

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AnyFucker · 14/07/2014 16:57

I think you should stop (the habit of a lifetime?) putting other people's comfort before your own well being

First him, then your tenants, then your parents

How about you stay right where you are in case it upsets the next door neighbours ?

See where I am going with that ?

umbongoumbongo · 14/07/2014 17:26

Ha; maybe. Just how I've been brought up to treat people how you'd like to be treated yourself - it's ingrained I'm afraid. I will become a selfish cow as of now Grin.

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AnyFucker · 14/07/2014 17:46

Go for it Smile

SuperFlyHigh · 14/07/2014 17:50

Speed reading this - run for the hills.

I was on holiday for 2 weeks recently and had a real light bulb moment about a relationship that's toxic and about to be ended.

If it's all one sided (you buying present etc) and him being abusive verbally (presumbaly you're not the same back to him?) then it really is a no brainer to end it. and do it now before you do decide to settle/have kids etc.

umbongoumbongo · 14/07/2014 17:56

No I am a calm person. We've had a few screaming rows after he has pushed so many buttons that I can't help it but it takes a lot. I have to say a very well respected lady with a high powered job I know who has dealings with my OH (and his daughter who is the spit of him) did say it was a good thing I was relaxed to be able to cope with both of them. She's not the sort to come out with things like that usually as relatively quiet. Made me think...

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SuperFlyHigh · 14/07/2014 18:07

OP - I mean this in the nicest possible way - the very well respected lady you know was I think being tactful (which I am generally not!) by saying you are relaxed by being able to cope with both of them.

To me that means more of - you're a bit of a doormat (gosh that sounds rude).

But it's what I'd be in my relationship (with controlling ex-GF of current BF who is pleading fibromalgia so she can't work, getting my ex (father of her teen son) so pay for her car to be repaired and a cleaner and then get him to babysit her 2 young sons and teen son at her house whilst she goes on the razz with her on/off newish BF). I'd be a mug/doormat to put up with that, my BF also has his son 3 full weekends a month as well as Weds evenings.

Anyway it means you're too nice/relaxed to say no/cause a scene (bit like me) and sadly people take advantage of this.

Good luck to you too!

umbongoumbongo · 15/07/2014 11:35

Had a long chat with Mum yesterday and she said they'd help out with whatever I need if I want to make a break. He has been unbearable since the weekend and was so rude to me last night. I really just can't keep on. Starting to make more enquiries about accommodation and going to ask the unit where my morning job is if I can move my business equipment there temporarily and see what options I have.

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AnyFucker · 15/07/2014 12:10

Sounds like a good plan.

Iflyaway · 15/07/2014 12:33

I,ve also been brought up to treat people as I,d like to be treated.

Also means I,ve had to get in touch with my inner bitch Grin when they think they can walk all over me.
Cos if you don,t you,re left on the floor while they waltz off to their next prey.....

Ain,t no prizes for being a doormat.

Anyway, sounds like you,re on the right track.
Go for it!

NormalTea · 15/07/2014 16:04

don't waste another day. Let me link to some articles about being too nice. they are really interesting and helped me change. I didn't change from a nice person to a bitch. I'm still nice! but I am aware now that I have needs and I will attempt to meet those and won't let another person do all the taking. My old mindset was that having no needs was nice. asking for anything, needing anything = selfish Confused

back in a tick

NormalTea · 15/07/2014 16:06

the problem with being too nice part one

the problem with being too nice part two

please have a read! these articles helped me understand how i'd got in to the dreadful situation i had got in to. glad to hear your mum is on board with your decision to make a break.

eggnut · 15/07/2014 16:13

Good plan and glad you talked to your mum. It's good to be considerate of others, but if you always put their needs first, you'll never look after your own. I would bet money this man will never change and any further time you spend living with him will just be more soul-sapping criticism and complaining. Get out as soon as you can and good luck!

HopefulHamster · 15/07/2014 19:05

OP you sound lovely and am glad you've talked to your mum. Stay strong. You deserve better.

umbongoumbongo · 16/07/2014 01:57

Thanks for the links; interesting reading. Had a good chat to his ex's DP tonight (phoned about something daughter related) and after he said the daughter had upset him over something I joked 'just like her Dad then' and ended up having a long chat. Quite eye opening and the conversation ended with him saying that my OH will end up a sad lonely old man and it's history repeating! Thanks for all the advice and well wishes; will report back when clearer!

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NormalTea · 17/07/2014 07:52

You don't need other people to agree with you that he's not a supportive bf/father. Dykwim? Hope you don't feeling like I'm getting at you like a wannabe psychotherapist, but you don't need to add weight to the decision you've made by telling people that even his x's OH gets it and so on. Hope that makes sense. You are leaving him because he's not good enough for you. There's no jury! You're the judge of what you can put up with and what you want out of life.

umbongoumbongo · 17/07/2014 13:35

Yeah I haven't had 'the chat' with him yet. Just been existing in awkward silence for the last few days. He obviously knows I'm seriously pissed off as I haven't cooked/food shopped or anything like usual and he is being 'nice' and 'helpful' without point totting and moaning where is dinner but I'm not buying it. He must know he overstepped the mark. Boss says I can move some of my business equipment into his office if I need to so I am getting there with a plan if I decide to do it for sure. Have holiday planned with his kids in a few weeks. Don't know if to stick it out for that then decide or just do it before. Kids will be upset if I don't go.

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SuperFlyHigh · 17/07/2014 20:38

oh gawd - the chat. I ended it tonight. Got stroppy about something else, now teary maybe PMT....

Yeah of course he's being nice and helpful cos he knows the shit's hit the fan!

don't worry about the kids and the holiday! Just say you'll take them away or for a nice day trip to make it up to them. They will be upset, of course they will but they'll get over it. as will you. have courage. Smile

tribpot · 17/07/2014 21:31

He's being nice and helpful now but it was 2 days ago you posted to say He has been unbearable since the weekend and was so rude to me last night

Don't stick things out for the sake of a holiday with his kids. You will have to make the break from them at some point.

WildBillfemale · 18/07/2014 07:21

It sounds like you have had a bit of a wake up call - you are correct in thinking he is a complete arse. Don't waste any more of your life on him.

Your comments about your tenants and so on - you sound like a really nice considerate person and you deserve so much more.

Could you move in with your parents or even rent a bedsit temporarily until your tenants find a place to buy? At least this would get you out of the toxic environment as you embark on this new episode of your life?

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