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Victor Meldrew - warning a bit of a rant

78 replies

Funkyannie · 13/07/2014 17:12

I really don't know what to do. I am living with a real life Victor. Everything is a conspiracy, nothing is any good 'these days'. He hasn't worked in 15 years (retired very early on a good pension) but still not of OAP age, however has no regular contact with anyone outside the house and seems to be totally out of touch with modern ways and views. He's quite happy at home with his hobbies.

He used to be a controlling person (as in telling me I couldn't have a bike I wasn't allowed to join an Am. Dram. group, not wanting me to see friends etc.) but that seems to have improved since we discussed it and he even went for hypnotherapy for it. However, I still feel I can't do anything on my own, he has to 'advise' me how to do it. If I kick back and say I want to do it my way I am being argumentative and trying to control him! He will argue black is white at times and refuses to listen to reason or even documented proof! I end up so frustrated I lose it totally.

His idea of humour is sarcasm or taking the mickey to the extreme. He has offended everyone I know at some point when he first meets them usually. I have to go round behind apologising and explaining he doesn't really mean it.

I lost my job a couple of years ago. We were desperate for income but he refused to look for a job, just pushing me to try harder to get one. At that point I lost a lot of respect for him, but I hoped it would return but I still can't let go of it fully.

I work full time while he is at home but I still have to do most of the housework, even though he describes himself as a house husband. I arrange cupboards so everything fits but he refuses to put things away properly as he 'can't remember' even after 5 years! He empties the dishwasher and leaves a lot of it on the side for me, as he got fed up of me nagging (showing him how to put it away so it all fitted and didn't fall out).

He has a high functioning Down's syndrome adult son by his first wife whom he left when the son was 7 because he couldn't cope, he also has a slightly older son too. He sees the older son often but still cannot cope with his other son which I can't fathom as he is adorable and so loving.

When things are good they are great, but we are having major arguments every 6-8 weeks now as he drives me up the wall. We have always had a slightly rocky relationship but I was hoping time would improve things.

A bit of background, I moved in after only 6 months of dating. He is 15 years older than me. We have been together 5 years.

I just don't feel proud of him, is there any hope?

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Hillstreetreds · 13/07/2014 20:15

The fact you felt the need to post in this suggests to me
that your family/friends are a unclear over how miserable your home life actually is. This is a crucial factor because you be lacking the support and common sense advice they would surely offer.

Your situation sounds grim to say the least. Please listen to the posts on here and make plans to leave(if that is what you wish). Victor will never change though, that is a simple fact. The choice you need to make is do you want a different life for yourself?

Good luck.

Norest · 13/07/2014 20:55

Like others are saying, talk is cheap. He says his world revolves around you but his actions demonstrate the opposite. You sound lovely, there are other people out there who will actually love you.

Funkyannie · 15/07/2014 15:29

Hi Lweji,

When I did try and leave before (a couple of years ago) I did get suicide threats and the stalking. I was told all my stuff would be thrown out on the street if I didn't collect it immediately. I will have a a talk with my Mum and see if I can stay there until I can get my own flat. I did find a really nice flat last time and paid a deposit on it but changed my mind at the last minute...I was still in the house though.

If I say about leaving he says I haven't given it a chance. I say 5 years is long enough but he insists that it is from the time we started the current conversation, I shouldn't keep harping on about things in the past, they have gone and he has changed, we have to look to the future. He also insists I need to change too and become more considerate to how he feels in all this.

I do need to get away as soon as I have told him. Thanks for everyone's support.

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Funkyannie · 15/07/2014 15:31

Someone else asked how old I am, I'm 47 with two adult kids from my first marriage not living at home (feel like I have to justify that I do have kids and can be on Mumsnet!)

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Lesnewth · 15/07/2014 15:38

Don't even tell him you are leaving! Just go. Sort it out in advance and LTB.

You owe him NOTHING.

Lweji · 15/07/2014 15:42

There you go, you know what to expect and you can prepare better this time.

Make sure you get your stuff out, even to storage. If he's in the house, you could enroll someone else to help (your DC?; a removal company even) and simply go. If he is in any way threatening, then call the police.
But I'd wait until he is away on a hobby to make it easier.

Then, just tell him not to contact you and don't respond to him. If he persists, you can report him to the police or get a no contact order.

Lweji · 15/07/2014 15:43

Also, these people are all the same, aren't they?
It is indeed like a play they all read.

cailindana · 15/07/2014 15:44

You don't have to justify anything to him. If you want to end the relationship then you end it, full stop. He walked out on a wife and young disabled child FFS who is he to tell you you haven't given it a chance? He sounds like nasty fucker who totally takes advantage of you.

Funkyannie · 15/07/2014 15:49

He never goes away and I am never alone in the house :( I will have to bring in re-inforcements when I decide on the date.

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Fragglewump · 15/07/2014 15:53

Op - do your children like him?

Lesnewth · 15/07/2014 15:54

Then do that. What realistically do you need to take?

Funkyannie · 15/07/2014 15:57

My son no, my daughter is ok about him, but she has only been in his company for short periods. I have lost a couple of friends because of him.

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Lweji · 15/07/2014 15:57

Get some burly removal men, then. :)

Jan45 · 15/07/2014 15:57

He does nowt for you love, it's all for his benefit, he's using you as a slave, controlling what you do and sitting on his arse lording it over you, that aint love, in fact, it's the furthest thing from it, if you want to spend the next 30 years passifying this alter ego, go ahead, personally I think you should start afresh with a normal person.

Lweji · 15/07/2014 15:57

I bet the friends you lost would be happy to help as well.

Lottapianos · 15/07/2014 16:04

Gosh OP, he sounds utterly exhausting to be around for 5 minutes, never mind living with him day in and day out! I can't imagine what you are getting out of this relationship apart from non stop hassle. You can do so much better than this. You don't need to settle for Victor Meldrew.

And yes, the 'world revolves around you darling' act is very creepy. And remember - people don't always say what they mean, but they always do what they mean. Judge him by his actions, not his horrible controlling words.

Good luck OP

Funkyannie · 15/07/2014 16:09

I do have an awful lot of 'junk'. I ran a craft shop until three years ago and I still have a garage full of left over stock, plus a lot of valuable crafting kit myself. I still would be happy to leave it all to be away from him, doesn't seem fair to leave it to him to sort out though.

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Lesnewth · 15/07/2014 16:15

Why are you feeling guilty at leaving him to sort it? It will give him something to do!

Motherinlawsdung · 15/07/2014 16:16

Please leave. I am in your situation but thirty years down the line with no hope of escape. Please, please go while you have the chance.

Lottapianos · 15/07/2014 16:30

Mother Thanks That's so sad. Why do you feel you are stuck with it?

Lweji · 15/07/2014 16:34

doesn't seem fair to leave it to him to sort out though.
Really? Grin
I'd be tempted to leave even more, actually.

Not that he'd sort it. He'd probably just chuck it out.

Meanwhile, you can start discretely sorting stuff and take it elsewhere sell it on ebay.

RubyGoat · 15/07/2014 16:35

He is always telling me how his world revolves around me totally and that everything he does is for me

Well, seeing as it sounds like he does sod all round the house or for you, he obviously doesn't love you that much.

Definitely draft in everyone who is likely to be willing to help. Maybe it will give him the wake-up call he deserves & make him realise how much sympathy people have for you, & how little they have for him. I am not suggesting you give him a second chance, btw, he has had enough chances, but it may make him think about his actions in the future.

Lweji · 15/07/2014 16:35

Look, I left home telling exH that I was going to the supermarket with DS and even asked him if he wanted to come.

When needs must...

Funkyannie · 15/07/2014 16:36

Why are you feeling guilty at leaving him to sort it? It will give him something to do!
lol, he is always saying about how busy he is... another train to run round the layout..

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Motherinlawsdung · 15/07/2014 16:50

Lottapianos, thank you for the flowers. (has a little weep). I should probably start my own thread.

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