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we both like the same guy....what's the best thing to do...

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doormat123 · 01/07/2014 15:54

This feels so silly.....and I feel like I'm a teenager again. (I'm in my 40s).

I REALLY REALLY like a guy, and we had a few dates a few months ago. We had a snog, and not much more, and he clearly doesn't want to take it further although we are now quite close friends. I'm hoping it will develop.... When we go out, usually once a month, we often have a snog, and always hold hands etc.

We are both on dating sites/Tinder and sometimes talk about our dates but nothing has come to anything yet.

He recently met a friend of mine. I've only known this friend for a year. She told me she won't pursue anything with him as she values our friendship. she said she wouldn't give him her phone number or meet up with him again as she knows how I feel about him and so it wouldn't be fair. I told her that I really appreciate that and thanked her and responded that I too value our new friendship.

I know I could have said that that was silly, and if she is attracted to him then she should go for it, but I decided for once in my life to not be a doormat and to just accept what she said and thank her.

Meantime, I know they are in contact, but don't know how much.

He has said to me that it would be odd if he dated her and that his friendship with me is too important to risk.

I haven't spoken to her since realising that she was going behind my back doing this.

My upset/disappointment is that she is doing this behind my back having said she won't. Not, that she is doing it. She could have said straight off that actually him and me are just friends, and therefore she actaully would like to see if anything happens with them.

Meantime, I am due to see him this Saturday afternoon. I would like to actually know if they have seen or are seeing each other, and just don't know how to play it. I feel perhaps I should cancel him, and step back and let whatever they want to evolve evolve, and then see what has happened in a month or two?

I don't want to get petty and ask them what's going on. They have both individually said to me that their friendship with me is the most important thing here, yet their possible actions show otherwise. Plus I then give them something to discuss and say I am being silly.

Do I step back? As I am writing this I think this is perhaps the most sensible thing to do. But I am really falling for him big time.

Do I ask one of them what's going on, and if they are planning on seeing each other again - but then I look petty and it just isn't necessary?

Any advice please? I feel like I'm 18 again. But we had an unspoken code of conduct then. Now I don't know what to do. Just disappointed mostly. xx

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kentishgirl · 02/07/2014 10:18

Well done, OP.

I don't think your crush is a very nice chap, to be honest.

I had the same thing the other way round. I liked a man as a friend, and he had hopes for more and agreed to the 'only friends', but I knew he was hurting and being around me wasn't good for him. I knew he was desperately hoping it would develop into more.

I was the one who cut off contact. My feelings were never going to change. His feelings were never going to change. I missed him as a friend but because I did care about him as a friend, I put my own feelings last. I didn't want to put the poor man through torture as the situation just didn't have a possible happy ending - this was quickest and kindest.

I sure as hell didn't hold his hand and snog him and play with his feelings in that very cruel way. As your 'friend' does to you.

I hope in time you'll get some perspective on this. You won't regret cutting contact. You will regret pining and fawning over this unkind man who is using you for an ego boost, if you keep it up.

PlantsAndFlowers · 02/07/2014 10:42

Well done.

doormat123 · 02/07/2014 11:15

Thanks for your (continued) messages of support. I really feel this has become a mountain and should be a molehill, but I guess we aren't in control of our emotions.

I was thinking over and over (all night!!) about what he said, and a big part says yes, he does want to have his cake and eat it, and does he even care about me as a friend....who knows.....he also did say that for him, we've definitely become closer recently, and it has evolved into a very close friendship which he enjoys as he's never had such a friendship (we are both recently divorced), is he just trying to sweeten me here, or is there something to be said for a platonic m/f friendship at this stage in our lives.. although for me, it hasn't evolved at all, and the closer I feel, the more I wish...

I don't want to lose his friendship - but is it even a friendship? We do get on, we laugh a lot, and we can talk about anything at all. He lives 1 mile from me, so logistically too we will bump into each other. He gives great advice too re my kids/divorce etc. I will miss that...

I guess he is also thinking that now he can date my 'friend' without worrying about anybody doing the wrong thing. I may need help staying away if he comes crawling back!! (am I kidding myself...he won't will he??)

Meantime - meeting a guy tonight - we're meeting in a place midway between us, (20 mins from each of us), and he's never been there, (whereas I know it quite well), and he's taken the time to look up and find somewhere and send me the link suggesting dinner in a lovely looking greek restaurant.

AND....I was chatting online to a guy from Leeds, (I'm in London) and said in a very nice way that I really don't think it is worth starting anything....and he explained he grew up near me and intends on moving back here one day...we've had a few phonecalls..and he's travelling down to meet me for dinner on Friday night....

(2 dates in a week is ok isn't it....it isn't wrong to them is it? I don't know them yet...I certainly wouldn't see more than one person if it was going somewhere...)
xx

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hellsbellsmelons · 02/07/2014 11:40

2 dates in one week is great.
Keep your options open.

there something to be said for a platonic m/f friendship
Certainly, but this is not platonic.
You snog and you have feelings for him.
So it's just going to keep making you feel shit when you see him and nothing progesses.
If it were platonic on both sides then yes.

something2say · 02/07/2014 12:43

Well done doormat.

But really - not every man you fancy is going to work out. Therefore it seems best to work out which ones they are and then break it off quickly, to save more hurt in the long term.

I think as well, really, who snogs people on nights out and then goes out with friends of theirs?

I mean that's alright I suppose - no-one's made any commitment and so on - but I couldn't.

Or rather, I could, but it would indicate that I wasn't serious about either party. That's what you have to hold onto here - he saw who and what you were, and he said 'Just friends.' He wasn't into it the same way you were.

I think, blank him. Take responsibility for not seeing him around your home area. Otherwise you'll be back seeing him 'as friends' and end up snogging again and back to square one.

XXX

MiniTheMinx · 02/07/2014 13:38

Door, I think you handled it really well. As I said up-thread, honesty is the best policy, be true to yourself. You can only do this be telling others the truth. There is a certain satisfaction in knowing that you have done your best, and even if that isn't enough to get the results you want, you can be sure its only because its not meant to be.

Good luck with your dates

LastTango · 02/07/2014 16:16

and he clearly doesn't want to take it further

Your original post should have stopped there ^^. He's hanging on with one hand while testing the water with his foot. Friendship? Pah. Break free.

aurynne · 02/07/2014 20:42

That sounds awesome OP! NOW you are starting to take control of your own life. Best of luck!

doormat123 · 02/07/2014 23:36

Update....tonight's date went well. He seems a very nice guy and we got on well. But now he's away from tomorrow till Monday and then I go away next week for 2 weeks...but let's see what happens. Not sure I was very attracted to him but def a bit xx

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PlantsAndFlowers · 03/07/2014 01:01

Well he's a distraction from the other fella if nothing else. It's good that you're going away for a bit.

hellsbellsmelons · 03/07/2014 09:16

Glad it went well.
Hopefully tomorrow's will be even better.
I assume you are still NC with the other man?

doormat123 · 03/07/2014 10:51

yes, still NC :(

Can I share that I did have a little (or actually quite a long!) snog last night...he was a really lovely guy....but I wasn't sure how attracted to him I was...and obviously I am clouded because of the other guy...so I thought let's go for it and see what I feel. I usually will only have a kiss if I REALLY like them.

It was my 13th 'first date' and I seem to so often come away and think would I / wouldn't I see them again..., (3 of them went to 2nd dates and a couple more..) and often I just cba and feel the momentum has gone...so I thought maybe this would add some momentum. Anyway, I enjoyed it so let's see....

I don't feel all dreamy this morning, like I have with other guys after a nice snog....but I guess 'movie snogs' aren't real life are they??

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rosepetalsoup · 03/07/2014 12:47

He sounds like bad news - I've known guys like this. Honestly he's crap! You'll find someone much better. Don't break friends over this.

rosepetalsoup · 03/07/2014 12:48

Oops I mean the original guy sounds like bad news. Mr meh-snog sounds ok. You sound a little burnt out from all the dating.

CiderLover · 03/07/2014 12:56

Please stop going out and holding his hand, he has made it clear he doesn't want a relationship with you therefore is fair game for your "friend".

Vivacia · 03/07/2014 17:46

Why did you post that cider?

BitOutOfPractice · 03/07/2014 17:47

Because she hadn't RTFT!

yoyo27 · 03/07/2014 21:00

When I was dating I kept a few of them as really great friends, seeing them regularly (not sex!).

When I met my DP (through POF!) I saw them about one time each and had no desire to see them again!

doormat123 · 04/07/2014 07:54

Still NC and it is dawning on me that, thank you to all of you, I have really done the best thing for me. Looking forward to my date this evening....He's travelling a long way to meet me :)

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rubyflipper · 04/07/2014 08:04

OP Stop making a fool of yourself.

He's just not that into you.

rubyflipper · 04/07/2014 08:06

Well done! I'm glad to see you're moving on.

AmenGirl · 04/07/2014 11:23

I keep checking back on this thread, I think I've started living vicariously through you doormat! I'm definitely not ready to date, but you are filling me with confidence for when I am! Good luck Thanks and be sure to come back and update us all! and don't skip the gory details Wink

doormat123 · 04/07/2014 13:32

hello AmenGirl lol to hear you are living vicariously through me....not really that much going on. My attitude is that I may as well get out there and get on with it. I think the saying goes something like that you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you find a prince (opinions please everyone - how many is a lot?!? Wink )

I just try to be the one doing the picking on the websites - so I look at the profiles and send messages and hope to hear back. Tonight is first date 14 (in about 6 months).... 5 of which have gone on to more than a first date, 2 more had a second arranged but I cancelled....my married friends love hearing all the details - although there aren't really many details! It does get tiresome, but I figure if I don't put myself out there and make an effort unfortunately I don't think my knight in shining armour will just knock on the door...

I get very nervous 10 minutes before meeting, and for the first 10 minutes, then I tend to relax a bit and think, it's only a coffee/lunch/dinner...enjoy and who knows what may come out of it.

Am looking forward to tonight as we have spoken quite a bit on the phone, but am quite nervous that I may not actually fancy him and then my hopes are dashed...but hey ho...that's the game I suppose?

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KoalaDownUnder · 04/07/2014 13:54

Keep us updated, OP! (Am also admitting to living vicariously Grin)

doormat123 · 04/07/2014 13:58

Loving that you are too... my issue tonight is shoes - I don't have summer 'date' shoes....I can't walk in heels at all, unless they are boots. Too hot for boots. So that means I'm in 'smart' (leather) flip flops, which aren't 'sexy' but we are going to be walking a bit so can't manage a heel... I need some low wedges...
shoe shop now, or garden centre for slug pellets...my plants are all being killed by slugs - I don't really want to kill the buggers tho, but want to deter them...tips?

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