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Dear Mum and Dad

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skolastica · 17/06/2014 08:07

Dear Mum and Dad,

I think that you are owed some explanation for my withdrawal from you over the past year or so - I've held back because of all the stress with Grandma and I didn't feel that you needed any more 'heavy stuff'. However, it is probably better to give you some idea of what is going on, if only because I feel criticism and irritation being directed towards me and this is something that I can't handle any longer.

I'm sorry for not being the daughter that you wanted. I can't help being different and given the choice at the moment I think that I would definitely choose to be simple and uncomplicated. But maybe, in the long run being different and difficult will reap its own rewards. Only time will tell.

At the moment I am extremely tired with almost no strength or energy left - although I'm slightly better now that I was this time last year. The last twelve years or so have almost killed me and, as at the moment I'm two weeks overdue with my rent and have almost no money, it's obviously not over yet.

The main reason that I have become quiet is that a couple of years ago, DP asked me to marry him. I'm happy about this, the only proviso is that I have to be standing on my own two feet financially first (my proviso, it's one of my biggest struggles). (The children don't know about this yet). It was when I began thinking about a wedding party that I realised that I would have trouble inviting you to any celebration. That I didn't want you to be there.

This has really upset me - knocked me off balance. I don't want to hurt you, but at the same time it's important that I listen to my feelings.

When I mentioned this to DP he made the simple observation that somewhere along the line you must have hurt me very badly when I was small.

I know that I've never felt comfortable with either of you and that I've spent a lot of time pretending, doing and saying things in some attempt to please you - which is quite dishonest for my part, but it was something I learned to do when I was small and has become a habit. I've never felt that you liked me and felt that I had to try extra hard to please you.

Mum, I have to tell you that as a child your temper frightened me. I never knew where I was with you and it seemed that I could never please you. It was a case of walking on eggshells all the time. And it went on well into my adulthood. I'm not sure that you are aware of just how awful your temper was.

As a result, I can't trust you with my feelings. I can't trust you with me. I don't feel safe with you, even now. When DD was in her teens and being difficult, I never told you because I knew that the first thing you would say would be a reference to how difficult I had been. I've never felt able to come to you for support, ever.

I think that you have tried to make it up to me since - and I appreciate this, which makes me feel bad about writing all this now. Especially as you are tired with how Grandma is. But I don't think that you really understood where the awkwardness in the relationship came from, the fact that I don't feel safe with you.

Dad, you allowed so much competition, vicious teasing and negative put downs within the family that I really don't think that I have any happy memories at all. I can remember that you would say how when I was grown up I would live as far away from you as possible. This was probably because the teasing and the torment had gone so far that the only thing I could do was to distance myself - and then you still threw the torment at me with this remark.

The child that steals is not getting enough attention. What on earth had happened that I would write notes to Mum and put them under her pillow asking that she 'be nicer to me'? I can't remember. I'm sad that I have no happy childhood memories.

Unfortunately, all of these things have influenced how I am today - how could they not? - and must surely be behind the reason why I feel so uncomfortable with both of you. I've never felt safe with either of you - or appreciated, or enjoyed. For me it's a relationship full of stress and a stress that I can't handle at the moment.

I don't doubt that you had the best of intentions and I know that you are both kind people - and did, and still do, make a lot of effort to do the right thing. So, all of this is probably an unfortunate outcome that is probably the result of my being difficult, for which I apologise.

When DD was born I can remember having to think about whether I wanted you to have a relationship with her, and later with DS1 and DS2. I decided that I had no right to make that decision and that you could enjoy them and that they could enjoy you. Unlike you both - in the way that you always mocked and derided both of our Grandma's - I have never spoken negatively about either of you to any of the children. At Grandma's funeral I remember seeing (my cousin) cry and envied that he had been given permission to love his Grandmother. My children have permission to love you both.

And I'm grateful for all that you have done for them - it is all much appreciated.

This is why I have become quiet. I don't know what to do about a wedding celebration without hurting you. I'm tired of the pretence that permeates the relationship that we have and I'm unable to pretend any longer as it's stressful and dishonest on my part.

Maybe a bit of honesty will start the process of clearing things up and pave the way to a less fraught relationship . Maybe also you will feel less inclined to be critical of me.

I'm sorry, Skolastica

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Meerka · 17/06/2014 14:41

It might be worth laying it out in more adult terms to DS1. If he hasn't seen it, it'll be hard for him to understand perhaps but all you can do is lay it out and hope that he sees it.

Im sorry about the death of his Dad, however many years ago it was. You've had a lot of challenges!

ooooooohnose · 17/06/2014 14:56

skolastica,

you moved a few years ago for a new beginning, was that in Scotland or England?

did your children settle there, then decide to work and live abroad? a new area for you, then your family unit chose to live and work abroad.
(sorry so many questions)

any chance that you could move abroad with your children too?

so you are burned and spent, many of us have felt that way over the years, but you are still young and the world is full of possibilities.

was there a reason why you ended up in Scotland while your parents-siblings?- are in England.

just trying to visualise the whole picture.

life tells us, that once you have reached rock bottom, it's decision time for you and your needs.

as you say, you have only yourself to think about now, so work on yourself.
what are your interests?
what are you good at?
what do you like?
where would you like to be in two years time?

although I can understand the lonely feeling, when those closest to you...your children...live so far away, maybe that is the core of how low you are feeling.

sadly a friend of mine had a truly miserable childhood, we were on holiday together...she blurted out how unhappy she had been.

she agreed to talk to her father about it once and for all, but said he would only be in denial of her perception of her truth.

which he was.......

so skolastica, time to realistically work on yourself.
build, however long it takes, a new life for yourself.
maybe with your children/siblings, maybe alone.

time flies by so quickly, you won't want to be in the same place 5/6/7/8/ years from now.

look in that mirror every day, smile at yourself, treat yourself to something new.

I am not being a clever clogs, my life was in a mess from the day I was born(not wanted/loved)

but I have peace and stability now (should have I am 69!)

hugs to you.
keep on mn for as long as you need, and let us know how you are

skolastica · 17/06/2014 17:55

@ Meerka - that's good advice. I'll talk about it with him when the next opportunity arises.

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skolastica · 17/06/2014 18:08

@ ooohnose - thank you for your interest, yes! lots of questions. It feels strange explaining my life....

We moved within Scotland. I've loved Scotland from when I was small - living in Scotland was my first dream, if you see what I mean, and I've lived here since I was 22. To be quite honest, I'd find it hard to live elsewhere.. I just love the landscape, the air, the everything.

When we moved, I did all the stuff that you're supposed to do when making changes - got my driving test, joined a speaking group, got my hair done, had a session with an image consultant, found a relationship. Nothing has been sustainable.

My children find travel easy, it's just happened for them. They have embraced the world. I'd like to visit them, but not to stay. One works in the merchant navy, so he's all over the place.

Yes, I'm burned out. When I wrote that letter I was trying to sort things out with my parents, it's a horrible lesson to know that you can't and that you have to accept that their version of myself is never going to change - in my case, that I was selfish, thoughtless and inconsiderate.

I'm one year into building a new life for myself, but mostly that has been about learning to be alone. I'm very cautious about doing anything big, partly because I'm tired and partly because it didn't work last time. Totally understand about the need to do it though.

Thank you for listening.

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ooooooohnose · 17/06/2014 19:53

skolista,
I really feel for you, so many things to understand and many future decisions to be made.

finding your dream place to live is an amazing feat, for so many people that dream escapes them for one reason or another.

but then you say nothing has been sustainable.
why is that, and why wasn't anything sustainable?

was it because of the behaviour of others, their agendas...you mentioned your relationship broke down...perhaps you haven't quite re-adjusted to being alone right now?

sadly it could be likely that both your parents may be in total denial of your perception of the childhood you endured.

on the other hand(?) they may feel so sad and guilty , if you sat down and spoke to them calmly,that a new relationship could be formed,

which of course would mean accepting that the past happened and it will help you to move forward.
but I wouldn't hold my breath that the outcome would be wonderful

one other point, you say you are burned out, tired and "it didn't work out last time".
are you eating enough, are you anaemic, could it be the end phase of the menopause?

does your daughter live in Scotland close to you?
there I go again, more questions, but, I would really like to help by offering different outcomes/solutions/ and happy life.

spanky2 · 17/06/2014 20:07

Try reading toxic parents overcoming their hurtful legacy... I found it really helpful. your parents sound very similar to mine and I have found this book really helpful. You can change even if they don't. It sounds to me that they will not really understand what you are trying to explain. You are probably right not to trust them with your feelings. Some people don't understand emotions in other people, they don't really understand their own. You say I did what you should when you move to a new place. It is the constant need to act the role you think you should and it is exhausting. The book I recommend teaches you how to 'be authentic' to be who you are not who you think you should be.

ohldoneedtogetagrip · 17/06/2014 20:35

where about's in Scotland are you OP.
Can you give us a wee clue if you dont want to say exactly ?

TweeAintMee · 18/06/2014 07:43

skolastika - this tiredness does not sound good. It seems as though you don't have enough energy to deal with such a raw problem. Would you consider going to the GP? It is not normal to be constantly exhausted and until you can get to the bottom of that I suspect you may have to shelve the issue of your parents.

skolastica · 18/06/2014 09:29

@ oohnose - thank you for your continued support. I had an early night last night which is why I haven't respnded sooner. I think that nothing has been sustainable, or nothing has failed to gain momentum, because I was running on empty for so long. Without realising it. There was quite a bit of bad stuff before the children's father died, I've had one of those autoimmune conditions for twenty years. You know, where the Drs can find nothing wrong, yet you know there is something wrong. And families on both sides are toxic, so I did the sole parenting for 12 years and endured some explicit and some implicit criticism from both sides. You know, support given but out of duty not from the heart. I've spent years being defensive. I suppose it would exhaust anyone. Menopause stuff is just beginning.

The adjustment to being on my own is hard - it wasn't in my imagination ever, that I would be single. I'm surrounded by quite a few people who are joyoulsy starting a new venture in their life - I live in a beautiful place - and I'm trying to adjust to/make the most of a position I haven't chosen. I hide away a lot.

I'm now waiting for one of my parents to need me. That's highly likely to happen. They don't at the moment as they are this (dys)functioning thing called 'mum and dad'. But when Dad was in hospital I rang Mum every night. Not sure I was really needed, because my two brothers still live at home, but I wanted her to know I was there. I'm not going to bring the subject of my childhood up with them again. Mum is aware, I think, but she's emotionally immature and doesn't know how to bring the subject up. She wanted to hav a big happy family of 6 children (I'm the oldest of 5) - I don't think she knows what went wrong. I'll just work on acceptance.

My daughter will be back in Scotland soon. She is lovely and beautiful and I'm looking forward to having her arond.

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skolastica · 18/06/2014 09:31

@spanky2 - sound words. The authentic stuff rings true. I think the real me is still deeply hidden.

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skolastica · 18/06/2014 09:34

@ ohineedetogetagrip -west coast.

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skolastica · 18/06/2014 09:38

@tweeaintme - I'm in quite good physical shape, am rigorous about getting a good night of sleep and walking daily. Swimming at the moment. It's emotional exhaustion mainly, and I meditate and know that I can't take on too much. Also probably some fo the tiredness is due to having stopped fighting. Catch up time.

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TweeAintMee · 18/06/2014 10:07

skolastica - it's still worth getting checked over to rule out underlying reasons for fatigue e.g. anaemia, thyroid issues etc.

skolastica · 18/06/2014 10:15

@Tweeaintme - OK, that's sometihng I should follow through. Thank you.

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ohldoneedtogetagrip · 18/06/2014 12:49

West coast here too Grin

spanky2 · 18/06/2014 20:54

I am still on the journey to find out who I am and what I think. Glad to help.

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