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DH seems to be regretting having kids.

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joelallie · 04/09/2006 13:31

We both agree that DS#2 was 'a baby too far'. He wasn't planned. We are broke, tired and stressed. However he is adorable and we wouldn't be without him. But recently DH has started to say things like 'life would be so much easier without Joe' and 'if Joe wasn't here we'd be home free by now'. He seems to be struggling with the children generally and his first resort in any slight difficulty is to shout at them. He can only seem to cope on his own with one of them - all three is a disaster and everyone ends up stressed and the kids in tears. He wants instant and unquestioning obedience which isn't the way we planned to communicate with our children. He reduces them to tears regularly. He is very anti-smacking but can't see that yelling at them all the time isn't really much better. I lose my rag from time to time but usually only under time pressure - ie school run with all 3 on my own as bloody usual!

Yesterday I tried to explain how I felt and asked if we could perhaps try to have a calm quiet day with no shouting, especially as the older 2 were going back to school today and not totally happy about it. He did make an effort and the whole day was 100x calmer and better - no shouting and no tears - but that might be because he took DD shopping on her own for about 3 hours.

I got really cross on Saturday with a neighbour - she never passes us in the street without some jokey comment about the kids along the lines of 'that looks like hard work' or 'bet you can't wait for school to start again'. It makes me so mad! I love my kids and would never wish them away! I told DH how I felt and he told me not to be so sensitive - after all don't we both feel that way sometimes. No. I don't! it upsets me so much - I never wanted kids when younger but now that they are here I realise that having them is the best thing I ever did! It seems that DH doesn't feel that way any more and I don't know what's changed to make him different.

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jabberwocky · 04/09/2006 13:33

Could he be depressed? Before I was on AD's my temper was on a very short-fuse simply because I was having so much trouble coping with life in general and ds in particular.

wartywarthog · 04/09/2006 13:42

how old is ds2?

joelallie · 04/09/2006 13:49

wartywarthog - DS2 is 3 and a half. Just started nursery this morning. He is quite a demanding child I suppose but I think he has to be with 2 older siblings.

jabberwocky - I did wonder about depression too but he seems fine in every otherway. He suffered from depression for quite a while on and off after his father died and I think I'd recognise the symptoms. Agree that it makes you ratty though - been there done that myself He is giving up cigarettes atm but the bad temper and disillusionment started before that.

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wartywarthog · 04/09/2006 14:04

did he agree that it was much better with no shouting, or has he reverted back?

joelallie · 04/09/2006 14:13

He did agree although wouldn't go so far as to agree that the kids behaved better because no-one was shouting at them. He said it was the other way round - he didn't shout because they behaved better. It'a chicken and egg situation I know but I feel that the adults should be the ones to take responsibility for keeping it calm.

Hard to say if he will revert back - he's OK in the morning anyway because he legs it first thing before I have to start getting kids up and out. It's mainly the weekends he struggles with. All three kids went off to school/nursery calm and happy which is a major result and I'm sure yesterday had something to do with it.

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PeachyClairHasBadHair · 04/09/2006 14:36

hi Joelalie

Your Dh sounds much like my Dh when he had depression (Or as he calls it Bridgy Syndrome). It seemed everything needed to be focussed on him, his perceptions of how life is, and if he couldn't see the joy in anything then it was about everyone else not him.

What's he like in other areas- sleep, work etc? Does he seem generally content? Because as you know, depression is a many aspected thing, and it would show in other ways.

What would be the chances of you getting away with him for even a day? Indeed, do you ever get evenings out without the kids? Because I bet you could both do with a break.

In your situation, I would be asking him to see the GP. (Actually I'd be bodily dragging him, but that's maybe just my DH...). It would also be worth thinking if things went downhill during the summer, as now they're back he might pick up a little- we all need our space after all.

Most of all though, make sure you look after yourself and the little ones. This sort of thing can take a toll on a family.

have you tried SureStart for advice? there used to be a chap there dealt with fathers and set things up at weekends, don't kknow if he's still there as I left working for them when PG with Ds3, but I bet someone there could offer advice.

joelallie · 04/09/2006 14:46

Hi Peachy,

"What would be the chances of you getting away with him for even a day?" How about getting away without him.... ? We get the odd evening out but not many it's true.

He's truly fine in every other aspect of life. That's what is so frustrating. He's irritatinglt laid-back about things that bother me (like money or the lack of it!) It's just the kids that wind him up apparently.

His dad left his family when DH was 4 and his sisters 6 and 3 - it plays on my mind at times. His dad used to say that he couldn't cope with a house with 3 kids under 7 - I know ours are older but I do wonder.....

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PeachyClairHasBadHair · 04/09/2006 14:53

Hmm, it sounds a bit too simple but given that, I would get him some counselling or see someone about family therapy. Not only is he lacking a decent role model he's probably questioning his own abilites too. Dh ahd a pretty messed up family, BTW as well- FIL was abandoned as a toddler; MIL was put in a home by her Dad for a year after her Mother left, and neither of them seems to 'get' what makes a family. It was their messy divorce in 2004 that triggered Dh's depression as he got most of the flack for some bizarrer reason.

Know what you mean abouta night out without him, especiallya s DH's carnival season kicks in now. Sigh. I cancelled my one night out until november because he wanted to take the kids out and I didn't want to be miles away jhoping he'd get there in time to pick him up. Frustrating isn't it? And there's him out three times a week down t'float. Anyway......

Do you go out on your own for a break? can't remember if you work or not.

joelallie · 04/09/2006 18:51

Yep. I work 30 hours a week - but not all of them out of the house. DH goes out quite a few times a week (not carnival - never really got into all that!)too. I go to the gym and every now and again but a night out is rare. Used to have a good work social life when I worked near Bristol but since I started work here and had kids that has died a death sadly.

I think that family therapy might help him but I can't see him agreeing. He had counselling when FIL was dying and I thought it helped him a lot but he denies it. I'm sure that you're right about him lacking a role model. He has very strong ideas about how you should bring kids up but I think the reality is harder (of course). Mind you I had a lovely childhood but I still wouldn't use my mother as a role model - unfortunately I seem to be following in her footsteps whether I want to or not

It does sounds like you're DH has similar issues to mine. Scary how you can seriously mess your kids up and how many repercussions there may be years down the line.

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wartywarthog · 04/09/2006 19:15

well, when he was shouting, they behaved badly, when he wasn't, they behaved well. you could put it to him like he's conducting an experiment.

i think you're doing brilliantly, and are obviously a great mum. he could really learn a lot from you!

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