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Took photos of messages on his phone. Deleted them from his phone, are they on iCloud?

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 08:10

Hi, found some messages on DPs phone and took screenshots of them and sent them to my phone. I deleted the messages I sent and deleted the photos I took from the phone but am now worried they will be saved to iCloud and he will know I have been snooping.
When you delete from the phone does that delete from iCloud?

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LegArmpits · 08/06/2014 08:15

Only if he has his photo reel set to back up to it. Mine doesn't. Go to Settings, iCloud - then there's a list of what does and doesn't back up.

LegArmpits · 08/06/2014 08:17

Ah and even then, unless the automatic backup option is on, you have to save them to iCloud manually.

Alwaysbuybigpants · 08/06/2014 08:20

What were the messages, out of interest?

Sleepysheepsleeping · 08/06/2014 08:20

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RustyBear · 08/06/2014 08:27

There are two ways that photos can get to iCloud from an iPhone; The first is PhotoStream, which is set as leg armpits says via settings/icloud/photos/my photo stream on. If this is on, you need to delete photos both from the camera roll and the photostream itself to delete them completely. If you don't they will also be in the icloud and also on any other iDevice on the same account which has photostream turned on.
But you can also set a separate icloud backup which can back up the camera roll (which you can check at settings/icloud/storage and backup/manage backup/this iPhone/backup options/camera roll.). If the camera roll is set to back up to icloud and the latest backup has happened between you taking e pictures and deleting them, then they may still be in icloud.

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 08:43

Thanks everyone. So if he does have his photo feel set to back up and it has - will they get deleted from iCloud after 30days? Do I need to find out his iCloud password?
His phone has since been charged so they would have backed up... Oh fuck

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 08:43

Photo reel, not feel!

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Sunshine4444 · 08/06/2014 08:47

Just another thing to remember on the iPhone (which I just did!) is if you press the main round button at the bottom twice quickly it will show you what has been opened on the phone recently eg. Messages, photo library. If you swipe up on the phone it delete's it.

Might be worth checking x

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 08:50

Oh thanks sunshine. So I have tried on mine and tapped twice and everything appeared. I then swiped up but nothing happened. So how do I delete them? I'm shaking and feel sick :(

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 08:51

Oh I see you swipe each little rectangle up individually. Got it! Wow I never knew this.

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Sunshine4444 · 08/06/2014 08:52

It's a useful little trick!

Swipe your finger upwards and that should delete the page xx

Hissy · 08/06/2014 08:55

So assuming these messages proved something unsavoury, what does it matter if eventually he finds out that you do know what your talking about when you tell him he's up to something?

Why were you looking at his messages in the first place?

Does he have form for cheating?

Do you have form for checking up on him?

Do you have kids/property/stuff with him?

If this is a bf/gf situation,no kids/mortgage etc, just end it. You deserve better than to be a woman who's checking his phone all the time.

If you do have 'stuff' then get legal/financial advice and end it the best way you can for yourself/dc.

You have a choice. Live like this, or live happy.

mammadiggingdeep · 08/06/2014 09:00

I agree. Is it the end of the world if he finds these photos?? He's the one who should be shitting himself, surely?? Is he likely to get abusive?

headlesslambrini · 08/06/2014 09:05

Have you done something Op which someone has sent to your DP? Is that why you need it deleting?

JaycesMummy · 08/06/2014 09:09

Nowiknowmyabc What has happened?

Sleepysheepsleeping · 08/06/2014 09:54

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 19:18

I saw messages between him and his ex which in my drunken state freaked me out... Stuff she was saying rather than stuff he was saying. I decided to send them to myself so I could reassess in cold light of day when sober.
When I woke I was horrified with what i'd done. Felt awful.

I went into his photo stream and they weren't in there so I either already deleted them (as I said I was very drunk) or as he already has 1000 photos on photostream there weren't room for any more. Is that the case!? (With the 1000 photos?) If I did delete them then it would have been before he charged his phone anyway.

So do we think they won't have made it to iCloud? I feel so awful anyway for doing that. I'm thinking I should just tell him what I did. So drunk and stupid, don't know why I did it!!

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 19:19

Btw I tried the double click on the middle button on his phone and it didn't work. Weird...

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RustyBear · 08/06/2014 19:58

When you did the double click, did it bring up a bar at the bottom with a row of icons? If you touch & hold one, they get a little - sign in the corner and start to wiggle. That's the equivalent way of closing apps before iOS 7. If you touch the - sign the apps close (as opposed to if you touch and hold the icons on the main screen, when they get a cross in the corner, and touching that will delete them)

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nowiknowmyabc · 08/06/2014 20:22

Hi rusty, I wasn't trying to delete the apps. Just permanently delete the photos I took and then evidence of my stupid awful snooping :(

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Lostinasupermarket · 08/06/2014 21:18

Swiping up doesn't delete the ap it closes it. iCloud photo stream doesn't fill up at and stop saving at 1000 it drops the oldest photo stored off and saves the new ones.

If you can look at the phone's photo ap (as opposed to camera - it's normally a stylised flower with each petal a shade of the rainbow) and look at albums, you should see one called 'My photo stream' if you look in that you'll see photos that have been saved to iCloud. You can delete it there if the photo shows and this will delete it off iCloud also but not for 30 days I think?

I hope your feeling better - unless there is a lot of back story maybe it might be better to just confess and blame the drink? It's just one of those silly things you can get fixated on in a way that seems eminently reasonably when you're drunk but slightly bonkers when you wake up.

RustyBear · 08/06/2014 21:34

I know you weren't trying to delete the apps; I was trying to tell you how to close them (and not delete them by mistake) if your DP's phone is running iOs 6 rather than 7.

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nowiknowmyabc · 09/06/2014 08:07

Oh thanks!

I think they aren't in his photostream because he hasn't been connected to wireless. If they're deleted from the camera roll then I don't think they can upload onto photostream when he does connect as essentially they've gone.

I feel like a total nutter for checking up like that. Thought about telling but he will just feel awful thinking I don't trust him.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

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