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planning to LTB (hand holding pls)

28 replies

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 19:53

Ive been watching this group for a while and i really need to perceptive on my marriage, when your living it every day it can be hard to be level headed although i am very calm and rational in nature.

I married my DH in 2010, i didnt know it at the time he was an over-stayer on a visitors visa. When we married i was 6months pregnant with DS so i was in the situation and i loved him so went ahead with spouse visa application and tried to make the best of the situation although it was hard being the sole earner, i also have 3 other children from my previous marriage.

My husband as he had his visa through got a job and looks after our son 2 days a week. He is in nursery for 3 days as DH works nights.
Its seems as he now has his visa and a level of independence he has started to try and be controlling and abusive to me.

He will only give me £400 a month towards Dss nursery fees of £700 and not a 1p for the household, i work full time and get no tax credits and really struggle to pay everything alone but he doesnt care and says he needs to have a life, he didnt come to this country for this!

Today he springs on me that from next week he will be working days so i need to think about what i am doing with DS as he wont be having him anymore.. no discussion and 1 weeks notice!! I said we need to talk about it and he said there is nothing to talk about!

He also said he would be better off living with a friend as that wouldnt cost him more than £500!

He wont eat with us as he wants to eat his food, i do everything, school run, nursery runs, sort out DS for bed, get up with him to breakfast and then work all day, come home and hes off to work so do everything all night for DS and DDs....

I really feel like just changing the locks and being on my own but worry about DS and how he will react if his dad goes.

He refuses to come on days out with us and i also do that alone. He says he needs time to himself
The only time he is civil is when i need to do immigration forms or appeals for his family members or wants sex .... Should tell me everything really... i feel so stupid!

I have just got a new job paying much better money and i feel he is putting obstacles in the way to make this as difficult as possible by changing childcare arrangements at the minute and suchlike

I have started a diary and going through it reminds me of how bad it really is. He keeps saying he is the main carer for DS which is bollocks! he says he will get residency, at christmas i also believed DH was going to run off with DS so hid his passport, i dont trust him not to take him out the country!

What other evidence do i need to get together? i feel i am going to have a real fight on my hands!!

Thanks for reading i know it is long xx

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sprite25 · 02/06/2014 20:04

Didn't want to read and run. Sorry your going through it but it does sound like he used you. I don't know much about anything like this but maybe you should get some advice from a solicitor or something? From your post I get the impression you want to LTB?

mammadiggingdeep · 02/06/2014 20:05

Firstly, yes...you need to ltb!!!!!

What I would do is let him change to days - then he's not the main carer.

Is it your house? In your name? If so, change the locks. Get tax credit application under way to coincide with the lock change. It will help you out more than he did!!! It can pay up to 70% of childcare. Don't forget you can claim maintenance from him too.

He is an AWFUL role model to your dc and his son. He didnt want to be a part of your family. He is a cocklodger. I'm sorry to be blunt but it sounds like he used you to stay in the country. Keep your sons passport hidden- give to a friend if needs be.

sprite25 · 02/06/2014 20:06

Sorry just saw the title again, I would say get some professional advice and gather as much evidence you can about how he keeps money from you etc.

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 20:14

Thank you for your replies x
it is my house bought before i knew him and just remortgaged on my salary alone!
He is not the main carer now imo i get home by 4pm those days and have to leave lunch for ds so dh can just put it in microwave! some days i come home and ds is still in pjs!
What evidence can i get? he hides all statements and wage slips and wont let me see anything!! x

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Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 20:17

Ive got my own bank statement which show all the bills coming out and not 1p from dh! i transfer money to him for nursery and he pays by direct transfer?

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EverythingCounts · 02/06/2014 20:26

Yes, I can see that actually you do more of the caring work, but mamma is right about the days - it just helps makes it absolutely clear if he can no longer say 'but I am full time carer 2 days a week so...'

I would have a really good search when he is at work one night for wage slips etc. They must be around somewhere. And yes to giving the passport to someone else, who lives elsewhere. If there's no-one I would take it to work with you and keep it there in a locked drawer or something like that.

mammadiggingdeep · 02/06/2014 20:28

Where does he work? Is he paying tax paye?

cantbelievethisishppening · 02/06/2014 20:32

Do you think he used you to get a visa? Has he been granted indefinite leave to remain yet or is he still on a temporary spouse visa?

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 20:38

he didnt get a spouse visa he had discretionary leave and 3yrs! up in 2015
more mind games he told me he was going to work and just come home so obviously not in work at all!! fuming

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cantbelievethisishppening · 02/06/2014 20:43

I will assume that he will therefore need to apply for indefinite leave to remain in 2015. He will be unable to submit an application unless he can prove across the whole three years that he is in a legitimate relationship with you. The process is long and the evidence they need from BOTH husband and you the UK citizen is colossal. In a nutshell, you could scupper his chances if being granted ILR. How do you feel about this? This could be your way out if he continues to be an arse and you suspect him of using you to stay in the UK.

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 21:00

Yes he needs to reaaply and it.doesnt bother me think he will get it anyway because of ds and human rights x

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cantbelievethisishppening · 02/06/2014 21:05

If you are ok with him possibly getting it then fair enough. That said, you would still need to complete your side of the application process. From the sounds of it I can't see you would be tripping over yourself to do it.

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 21:21

no you are right i wouldnt be helping him! he has given me so much grief! he wont spk to my parents and dds wouldnt be bothered either he has never made an effort with them!
The cultural difference is a problem.especially with discipline he thinks i am too soft and should smack them but i dont think that is the answer and have never done that!

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Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 21:23

no doubt he led me to belive he had LTR but didnt! lying git

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Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 22:05

dh has an immigration appeal next week for a family member, i was booking morning off work. Dh just said he doesnt want me to go as i cant be trusted to say the right thing! he and ds are going alone Angry

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AndyYorkeSingsBetterThanThom · 02/06/2014 22:08

Good luck.

Tellanovella · 02/06/2014 22:21

Saying things to you about being the main carer, makes me think that he has been plotting behind your back and finding out exactly how to screw you over.
I'm sorry to be blunt but I'm angry for you. Protect your interests and be one step ahead of this using piece of shit.

mammadiggingdeep · 02/06/2014 22:24

How old is ds?? Why is he going to an appeal?? Don't let the him use your son like that!

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 22:37

I need to get angry! the thing is ive got so used to him behaving like a fw it all goes over my head!!
i agree he is using us all inc ds for his own ends!!

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wafflyversatile · 02/06/2014 22:37

I think you need some legal advice.

Maybe a lawyer from here? you can tick which specialist subjects you need.

www.resolution.org.uk/memberSearch.asp?page_id=45

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 22:39

thank you for the link will check it out in morning x ds is 3yrs

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mammadiggingdeep · 02/06/2014 22:43

Don't let him take a 3 year old to an appeal?! What reason would he be going for other than "look at my family including this small, cute boy"....

It's so easy not to see the wood for the trees when you're in a situation. You need to start protecting yourself and your dc's.

He is ripping you off financially but also your dc's. he's using you...and your dc's.

Get angry and kick his arse to the kerb.

Lambylostit · 02/06/2014 22:49

thank you mamma i know im going to have a hell of a fight on my hands!! apparently other "westerners" dont have my attitude according to dh!

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mammadiggingdeep · 02/06/2014 22:51

I don't think you should be listening to anything he has to tell you about yourself.

You need to think carefully and plan your next steps out.

Keep yourself safe. If he thinks you're his ticket to staying he might get nasty.

CarbeDiem · 03/06/2014 03:52

Please do get some legal advice before doing anything.
I'd ask things like -

Can contact be supervised as you don't trust him not to run with your ds.

Can you contact the passport office to have on your sons file - HE IS NOT to be issued with a new passport by anyone other than you under no circumstances. Obviously if this was possible you'd have to explain to them why and that his passport is stored in a safe place.

What help is available to you if you kick him out and he gets nasty.
Should you forewarn the police etc...

Should you divorce him and basically fuck up his next application.

I know that you'd rather not have your child suffer by assisting/hoping his father will be kicked out of the country but in your shoes, I'd rather that than worry if he stays he'll snatch your son away from you.

What an arsehole to treat you and your family this way. If he doesn't like how 'westerners' raise children or their attitudes then he shouldn't have fucking married one - I'm so angry on your behalf.

Good luck.