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Help deal with my sister over her dd failing final year Physics. (VERY LONG)

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QuintessentiallyQS · 30/05/2014 14:25

My sister is ambitious. Her grades in school were excellent and she went on to be a civil engineer, and then she was a research scientist within amino acids and fat chemistry, something.

She has always been very proud of her daughter, now 19. She has supported her schooling wholeheartedly, to the point of taking over projects and doing them with her dd, rather than letting her dd do it herself. She has not been able to bear the thought of her dds work being anything but perfect, and if dd did not have the ability, she would take over and help her finish.

My sister has been on disability benefit the last 10 years due to various problems. She is distraught at the loss of career, and feel her intellect is going to pots, and she has no self esteem. I think this is partly why she is so involved in her daughter, and so proud of her. Sh e is always boasting about dds good grades, even to people whose children have not done well in education.

My niece was on track to get A* for everything.

But, there is a bit of a situation. Final year of A levels, and physics teacher suggested a trip to Cern. All the students were keen. In order to achieve this, they started a hefty baking schedule with cake sales once a week and for the pensioners tea dance on Saturday, and home made pizza once a week. So, preparation of cakes twice a week, and pizza once a week. The pupils also had to sell cakes, so half of Saturday since September has been taken up with cake decoration and sales, and cleaning up after selling.

Most of the final year has therefore been taken up with baking. My sister and her dd has baked 6 cakes per week. 3 for Tuesday (usually something simple like brownies, cupcakes, traybakes) for the school, and 3 for the tea-dance. The cakes for the tea dance have been elaborate concoctions. My sister put her life and soul and all her pride into those cakes, Italian creamcakes, tiramisu cakes, cheese cakes, and all beautifully decorated.

Now to the point. In the middle of this, dd has neglected physics. She has not had time to tell her mum, or complain to the school, that they only managed to go through half the syllabus, and that the teacher did not know how to explain anything to the student. DD left midway through her physics exam and got a sick note. She can retake in November. She will not get her leavers certificate.

My sister is a nervous wreck. She is shouting and screaming, crying and hitting herself. She blames dd 100%. The cakes and the baking has nothing to do with the situation. The fact that her dd has never had to take responsibility for her learning has nothing to do with it.
The teacher has been dismissed, and the bad teacher has nothing really to do with it as dd should have been on top of things. How could she? Her dd has always had mum to fight her battles and be on top of things, and she was consumed with confectionary!

My sister says she has waited years for the final day where her daughter would get her certificate and move on to uni. (She will still move on to UNI, she will resit her physics ). My sister is distraught because she has been deprived of watching her daughter get the certificate. She says the trust is gone, and to hell with it, she says she is "done" with her daughter.

I have tried talking to her. It is like talking to a crying screaming harpie.
My niece is moving home to Norway and will live in my dads house, it has a self contained flat. My sister started a kitchen building project that my poor old dad has overseen, and there is a lot of mess in the flat. Too much mess in the flat for niece to come alone and clear it up. Furniture to move and carry downstairs and sell, etc.

My sister says she does not want to go up there. Her dd has ruined my sisters life, she has ruined the summer holidays, how can she relax and rest when her dd has to read physics. And she does not want to be there until november and coach her physics reading.
She does not want to stay behind either, because she says that she is sure she will kill herself if left alone at home in Spain.

My sisters outlook is always catastrophic and pessimistic. Her daughter is more "yeah yeah whatever"

I dont know what to do. If anything.

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KiaOraOAotearoa · 31/05/2014 10:22

Quint, reading your saga settles my nerves no end. Glad to see my theory 'no family is normal. EVER!' proved right yet again. (I'm in the middle of a shit storm of epic proportions myself).
It'll all come out in the wash. You all care and are a close family. It'll be alright.

QuintessentiallyQS · 31/05/2014 10:33

tribpot, she has not lived there for 10 years, but she has friends and family there. Not just childhood friends, but friends that she meets every holiday, also new friends from her church. She has taken youth leadership training and will be camp leader this summer. Yes exactly, wtf was she to do. In her mums view, complain about the teacher and move heaven and earth to get a new one. No, they have not been yet. The schedule of fundraising was the teachers idea.

Kia, feel free to "follow me" for daily dose of "thank good peoples lives are as stupid as ours" Grin

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QuintessentiallyQS · 31/05/2014 10:34

an "o" too many in good.

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tribpot · 31/05/2014 10:51

The fundraising was the teacher's (ludicrous) idea but the school must have been aware of it. Indeed really the school should have been aware of the poor quality of the teaching as well, they've let the students down pretty badly in my opinion. I don't envy the new teacher having to come in and rescue this situation, what is going to happen about the Cern trip after all this?

Glad to hear your niece should be able to settle into Norwegian life fairly easily.

QuintessentiallyQS · 31/05/2014 10:58

They will still go, accompanied by the physics and the maths/chemistry teacher, so hopefully between the two of them, they will get good educational value from the trip.

You'd think the HT, who had been working as a head in the UK before should know about the importance of monitoring educational value - in Norway this does not really happen, I am sad to say.

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tribpot · 31/05/2014 11:01

Good, I had imagined the whole thing descending into a shambles and all that bloody cake-making having been in vain.

There must be some severely pissed-off parents at that school, hopefully the HT will have his/her hands full dealing with that and reflecting on whether this situation could have been avoided.

sonjadog · 31/05/2014 11:18

She can resit in Novemebr if she fails. If she passes she may still be able to get in to univerisity if she has enough points. Do you know how ,any points she needs to the course she has applied for, and what her average is now? If she needs a lot of help in Physics then she should consider deferring entry for a year to go to a private school and resit. Physics is not one of the easier exams to take as a private student.

KiaOraOAotearoa · 31/05/2014 11:22

Quint, at least your family's problems are of academic nature, it's a 'superior' type of 'stupid', hence the interest Grin. I am making light, I'm sorry.

QuintessentiallyQS · 31/05/2014 11:26

I know, academic with cream cheese frosting and good chocolate ganache! I am also making light.

Can I join you in that corner?

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QuintessentiallyQS · 31/05/2014 11:26

It is just such a weird juxtaposition of extremes...

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italophile · 31/05/2014 13:09

Hi quintessentiallyQS I was suprised that you didn't recognise much of the narcissistic mother in your sis.I may be projectong as my mother is a narcissist and my childless aunt's unconditional acceptance of me and my sisters as normal imperfect human beings was massively protective to us. I will try and find a link to narc mums that reflects your sister's attitude but if my hunch has some truth, if you are able to try and meet some of your dn's emotional needs, that might be the most helpful thing you can do in this very damaginh sotuation x

QuintessentiallyQS · 31/05/2014 13:54

This is a glimpse of an extreme situation, and by no means how it is generally.

The only think I recognize is "living out herself through her dds academic results", and spoon-feeding - which I did not see mentioned.

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KiaOraOAotearoa · 31/05/2014 20:54

It's a corner big enough for both of us :)

Look, the poor woman has tried really hard to compensate for the divorce/moving country/health problems etc, and this is how she knew to do it: by helping you DN succeed. I would have done the same, probably, I don't know.
She overreacted at the whole physics result, fair enough, she'll see reason in due time.
Send her a nice bunch of flowers/box of chocolate, give some pocket money to the niece for Norway and be there when they need you. Simple. Don't get swept in the hysteria, one step at a time.
And in the summer when you all get together at your Dad's, open the wine and let her vent.

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