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I've had enough! Sorry, rant!

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Revengeofthechocolatebunny · 29/05/2014 09:43

OH is 16 years older than me and sometimes we have a great relationship, lots of laughs, love and cuddles and just being. Other times he is a arrogant mardy bastard and I hate him.

We've been together over 7 years, were both separated when we got together. He is still separated and has not made any real move to progress his divorce or to sell his old house (where his ex lives and he still contributes to the council tax)

He promised me 5 years ago that it would be sorted out and we were to get engaged once it was all settled. Then his ex broke her leg and he said, "it's not fair to make her sell when she's not able to walk" fair enough.

Both his adult sons live there too.

Once his ex was able to get around again I asked him if he would be putting the house on the market so we could progress our relationship and he said "yes, once she's had her holiday" which narked me as I feel he's putting her feelings before mine.

Then his mum died, and his SIL (bro's wife) deliberately tried to exclude me from the funeral stating that his ex was her best friend and had "rights" including going in the first car at the funeral and being in front row at the crem. I was to get a bus and sit at the back if I wanted to go.
He fought my corner then, but on the day, his ex waltzed past me and pushed into my seat leaving me stood on the aisle like a lemon. Then everyone had to scoosh up making it look like I was the interloper.

I didn't say anything at the time as it was a sad occasion and I didn't know what to do really so did nothing.

Fast forward at Christmas and we're having chats about our future and he says he will get the house on the market and get his divorce moving.
He speaks to his ex who says "I want most of the equity as I have the boys and need a big house"

The boys being 25+ with jobs. He tells her she's entitled to 50/50 and she's not happy. House doesn't go on market.

5 years in, I'm beginning to think that he doesn't care about my feelings but hers, and we had a few rows about it. He even said that "it was convenient that we got together as I had my own house as he couldn't live in his old house any more" which made me feel that he used me.

He is hyper-critical.

My daughter shares her time between me and her dad. On her day off college, she helps out with household tasks, willingly. Except he hovers over her to make sure it's done his way.

I am of the opinion if someone helps then as long as it's done, it doesn't matter how it's done or in what order. He disagrees.

He will come and drag me to a piece of tissue on the stairs (for example) and say "that's been there 5 days now" - I say "if you saw it why didn't YOU pick it up?" - "it's not mine/wanted to see how long it would be there"

Same as a teabag drip, bread crumb, something which fell out of a cupboard and wasn't spotted.

I will always just pick up/wipe it up without even thinking; he has to drag me to it and make a fuss. He objects to DD listening to the radio while doing stuff around the house.

If something displeases him he will go into a sulk and ignore us both for as long as he feels is necessary. Days at a time. I used to beg him to tell me what was wrong and then get a pontificating lecture about how things are never done right.

Now I think "sod you" and ignore him back. But I detest the walking on egg shells when he gets up to see what mood he's in that day. He sulked for 4 days of a 7 day holiday because our flight was changed to 6am from 7am. Totally blanked DD and I, and spent the time in the room with the door shut.

His latest is to come in and tell me "we need to get this house sorted out as I don't like living in a pig sty" - tone of voice and attitude implying that I do. The house IS messy but mostly it's full of his boxes of his collection which he brought with him when he moved in 6 years ago. He knows how to push my buttons and then accuses me of being childish and being stressed, then using the resultant argument to sit on the computer and play a poxy card game.

I am very busy as I started my own business last year and need to pay attention to that but I do pull my weight around the house.

We have argued probably every other fucking day since new year and I am sick of it. I want a bit of peace and don't need to be dragged to see the latest "problem". I want to be able to do nothing even if the washing up needs doing, I want to do my own thing in my own time.

If I start to do any household things he will invariably take the knife out of my hand and do it himself, or tell me that "I'll do that" and watches while I put a load of washing on and then tells me I'm interfering.

He will suddenly become all loving after a few days of sulking and expect sex. He won't shower every day despite working on the allotment and sometimes stinking to high heaven, he wears the same smelly clothes as "they're working clothes and I'm going to be working" and I just am put off by the smell. I don't even think that I fancy him any more. He keeps growing a beard knowing I dislike beards.

DD has noticed how he talks to me and said to me that he treats me really badly. He's always on her case about her room (mostly full of his boxes and my business stock) her friends, her college work, her table manners (better than his sometimes) her not having a job despite trying, and nothing ever seems to please him.

DD hates him.

I've had enough of feeling like this. I feel that he doesn't care about me or he would have divorced his wife to be with me. I don't need this crap on a daily basis. Have an argument, fine. That's it once it's resolved. Don't do the frigging "poor me" behaviour.

I don't think there's any more to gain from being together and most of me wants out. Except I'm really scared. And crying now.

Sorry it's so long.

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oldgrandmama · 29/05/2014 09:47

Sorry, didn't want to read and run ... but, he's living in YOUR house? And he behaves like that?

Others will be responding fast, I reckon, and I'll pick up thread when I'm back.

littlegreenlight1 · 29/05/2014 09:50

Christ, I'm nearly crying.
Unless I'm missing something you are living with a seriously emotionally abusive man.
Do you get anything from this relationship? It sounds terrifying.
Please leave and live a happy life like you and your daughter deserve xxx

mrscynical · 29/05/2014 09:53

I would thank my lucky stars that you are NOT married to him and tell him to leave immediately.

I feel really sorry for your daughter.

louby44 · 29/05/2014 09:55

Ahhh big hugs to you!

Do you still love him? Much of what you have written is very similar to how my exP was. He was miserable, moaned about mess, marks left on walls. He too would say "can I borrow you a minute" and then drag me to a mark/mess/pathetic trivial thing and point at it saying "WHAT'S THAT?" He used to make me feel like a child.

He was horrible to my 2 DS and I constantly walked round on egg shells around him when my boys were home (they're 14 & 11).

I ended it in Dec after nearly 6 years together. It was the hardest thing I've ever done.

The fact that he's never divorced his ex and she still lives in their house is very telling.

Many will tell you to leave him, kick him out but only you know if you can do that!

nefnaf · 29/05/2014 10:00

you need a confidence boost, because this isn't about IF you ask him to leave, is it? It's about finding a way to get past the fear so that you know WHEN and HOW you are going to do it.

It can be done, it should be done. He's abusing you and your daughter is witnessing it. No doubt his XW is happy to be shot of him if this is the way he's behaved his whole life, she's a red herring. Your problem is him. I'm a LP and I know how scary the leaving stage is (or being left) but it's only a stage. Once the practical bits are dealt with you will be so much happier.

Please go see CAB, a sol, a RL friend - anyone who can give you the boost you so clearly need to get this man out of your house.

paulapantsdown · 29/05/2014 10:01

Jesus wept - what a horrible man! Tell him to fuck off back to his wife.

FantasticButtocks · 29/05/2014 10:05

Sorry, but the next time he 'dragged' me to see the latest tea bag drip or displeasing fragment of tissue, or criticised my daughter, I'd just ask him to leave and take his boxes of crap and his attitude with him Angry why on earth are you putting up with this in your own house? Why are you tolerating his treatment of your daughter? Has he got a golden cock or something?

Just get rid.

FantasticButtocks · 29/05/2014 10:07

And what are you scared of?

I'd be very scared at the thought of putting up with any more of this.

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow · 29/05/2014 10:13

Just tell him to leave. He'll never change. He's already told you he's just with you for somewhere to live.

Foodylicious · 29/05/2014 10:25

Christ that sounds bloody awful.
you deserve so, so much more.
Do you have rl support? Can you get in touch with women's aid? I really think you need to talk this through with someone if you want him out of your life but don't feel strong enough to do it on your own Thanks

Squeegle · 29/05/2014 10:30

He sounds awful. He's worn you down. It's time for him to go. As well as all the other things, the funeral thing was so disrespectful. You absolutely deserve more, and your daughter must not be treated like this. Surely she must hate him?

Squeegle · 29/05/2014 10:33

On rereading the thread I can't see any redeeming features. What are you frightened of in asking him to leave? Are you physically scared of him?

Revengeofthechocolatebunny · 29/05/2014 10:38

I don't have many RL friends as I don't make friends easily :( but I am going to take legal advice as he's not on the house deeds but did give a lot of money to pay off the old mortgage to enable me to take it over and get my ex off the mortgage. I took out a new mortgage in my name only to repay the old mortgage as I was able to get a staff discount with the new company.

I want to be sure I can say "just go" and he's not got an "in" as it were.

[hope that makes sense!]

Thanks for everyone's opinions so far, it is difficult to admit to myself how bad it is. I think DD talking to me has brought me to admit this.

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Revengeofthechocolatebunny · 29/05/2014 10:42

What are you frightened of in asking him to leave? Are you physically scared of him?

I'm more scared as to me coping financially.

I'm not physically scared it's just he's able to think on his feet and be quite cold and analytical and rip any of my arguments to shreds despite them being valid. He will hone in on a wrong word and divert the thrust to something trivial which was not the intent.

He makes me feel stupid.

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gamerchick · 29/05/2014 10:44

You don't have to put up with that. Why are you still with him.

Until you're ready for the push
. Tell him from now on that it's your house and you can do what you want, if he doesn't like it then the doors over there. Repeat as often as necessary.

Do you really want to tread on eggshells the rest of your life?

BitchPeas · 29/05/2014 10:45

He has no in. It's your house and only your house.

Kick him out he sounds vile.

Squeegle · 29/05/2014 10:48

I'm sorry you are going through this. And I'm sorry he treats you like this. I reckon you best bet is indeed to see a solicitor or other legal advisor. Make absolutely you understand what you need to do to get him our. If that means paying him off, increasing a loan, even (worse case) selling up in order to give him anything you owe him.

If you can have thought it all through beforehand, and then maybe if you're worried about the actual confrontation you could get someone you could trust to be with you when you talk. Or even a legal representative if that's possible. If he's a quick on his feet thinker then your salvation will be to have thought all these things through first, and thought through every possibility. Then he won't be able to disarm you.

ExCinnamon · 29/05/2014 10:52

He sounds horrible.

Get solicitor's or CAB advice about the money he paid towards house. Is he regularly paying half of the mortgage?

If not, he probably owes you money because he lived rent free for 5 years.

Whatever the financial circumstances, I'm sure that is not a hinderance if you want him to leave.

Well done for raising a daughter who recognizes a bully and can speak to you about her concerns.

maras2 · 29/05/2014 10:57

Which one bit of your post would you consider to be part of a normal relationship? Give up?Me too.He sounds absolutely vile.No one should be 'walking on eggshells' ever.You really should let his not quite ex have the miserable,abusive sod back so you can regain a life with no stresses,sulking and thoroughly rotten behaviour.Good luck.

myroomisatip · 29/05/2014 11:00

Please get rid of him. How awful for your daughter! Get your financial advice and then kick him out.

And don't argue. You don't have to have a reason other than you are not happy with him any more. End of! No discussions. No arguments. Good luck.

JingletsJangletsYellowBanglets · 29/05/2014 11:04

You're not married, did you make a verbal or written agreement about the money he gave you? It sounds like a gift rather than a loan.

He's been living with you for over 5 years - does he contribute to your mortgage? Does he contribute to the upkeep of the property? I think you should get legal advice on whether he can be seen as contributing to the property or simply being a lodger or paying you rent. As you're not married, I think he's sort of screwed in that the house is yours, he's got no tenancy agreement so is a lodger, and you could kick him out today. But you're right in that you need to get legal advice first.

WhereTheWildlingsAre · 29/05/2014 11:08

He makes me feel stupid Sad

Do you want the relationship to work or do you want it to end? I ask because I am not usually a LTB type of poster. But it feels as though you know what you want but are too afraid to try and make it happen.

It worries me that your lack of confidence is down to the way he has made you feel. It also worries me that your DD is picking up on all of this.

ShimmeringInTheSun · 29/05/2014 11:31

Oh op, you and your DD do not have to take this rubbish from this man. Sad

His behaviour is abusive, bullying, obnoxious, disrespectful, and the rest!

I would put his boxes along with clothes etc, outside ready for him to pile up at HIS house...and change the locks.

You can sort out the financial side from a distance - ie you in your own house along with your DD, enjoying the peace, and him in HIS along with his Ex and Ds's.

Good luck. Smile You do NOT have to put up with this.

Revengeofthechocolatebunny · 29/05/2014 11:58

He pays 50% of the household bills including food.
This mortgage is in my name only and he has not paid towards that.

There was no written agreement about the money he paid into the previous mortgage, it was something that happened as the building society wouldn't have taken ex's name off the mortgage/deeds until the amount oustanding was an amount that I could afford on only my income. He offered to pay it.

He didn't want his name on the deeds in case it complicated his financial settlement with his ex, oddly enough!

I would rather not be in a relationship than feel like this with a constant knot in my tummy wondering what I've done/not done next.

I really do appreciate everyone's comments, it's helping me focus.

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ExCinnamon · 29/05/2014 12:03

Then his contribution 5 years ago can be seen as rent for that time. Unless it was half a million and you live in a mansion Wink