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Constant emotional punishment - is this abuse???

44 replies

MuckyGoggs · 28/05/2014 21:00

I'm on the edge. Been living with a man for around a year and a half and almost from the beginning he's been controlling and nasty. He used to need a drink before the real him came out but now it's just whenever he feels like it. He tells me I don't love him, don't respect him, don't like his kids, don't like him spending time with his kids, he makes up scenarios like "you have a problem with my kids coming" and then punishes me for that with silent treatment or disappointed shakes of the head I feel like a small child who is a constant disappointment to her father. If I dare voice any kind of opinion or question anything he says or does he reacts aggressively, won't talk about it but instead starts shouting over me, swearing, not letting me get a word in, starts being nasty and insulting. An example was the other day£20 went missing. I was upset because we 're so short of money right now and mentioned to him that it had been lost. He went mental shouting"so??? If it has it has!! How dare you accuse me!! (I didn't!) I don't want to hear it! I can't be doing with your scatter brain persona " Ooooohhhh I've lost money help!" Fucking hell I can't be doing with it! It's fucking lost, you probably lost it because your fucking careless!! I thought you were more intelligent than this!"

I just wanted to cry, all I was saying was that £20 was missing and could we have a go at finding it. I can't say anything to him. Constant aggressive snapping and silent treatment when I step out of line. I'm almost frightened of him. Sometimes he can be adorable and so sweet and then he turns and he's a totally different man.

OP posts:
EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 29/05/2014 17:02

Yes it's abuse. Please, just leave him.

pictish · 29/05/2014 17:06

Yes it is abuse. Very much so.
My advice to you would be to pack your bags and flee.
It will never get better, but it will get worse.
Remember...this is your only go at life...are you really going to waste it on this dementor?
Nah...course you're not!

CogitoErgoSometimes · 29/05/2014 17:09

" I'm almost frightened of him"

I don't think there is any 'almost' about it. If you're not frightened, why are you still there? Yes, he's verbally & emotionally abusive and it's only a matter of time before he becomes physically abusive. The 'adorable and sweet' version he shows you is not the real man.

Do call Womens Aid 0808 2000 247 urgently.

MuckyGoggs · 30/05/2014 13:30

Thanks for the advices things took an awful turn for the worst the night I posted this and we had a huge argument because I mentioned that I'd like to reevaluate some house rules regarding the kids. I said it nicely and diplomatically but he went mental, shouted and swore at me, said I was "fucking unbelievable and fucking ungrateful" and that I don't have a "fucking clue what I'm talking about" and I should "fuck off and find someone else who is willing to bring up my kids like he does" etc etc. he then stonewalled me all night before the argument started up again and he started singing my grandads funeral song (funeral was only a few weeks ago) at me. Anyway I told him I'd had enough and I wanted to split. Then yesterday he came home with chocolate and said he loved me etc etc, no apology, he still maintains it was all my fault but he loves me and wants it to work. I'd kind of already made my mind up by this point but I said we could talk. I said my major issue with the relationship is that we can't talk without arguing. Anyway, he managed to turn ThAT into an argument!!! I've never known anything like it. I'm going to call a few estate agents next week but it's difficult at the moment as my work is casual contract so no guaranteed income.

OP posts:
Jan45 · 30/05/2014 13:37

OP, you're wasting your time, you can't communicate with someone who is devoid of a brain, he's a nasty piece of work, don't let him manipulate you any more, seriously, if not for you, your kids, what a horrible way to show them how adults behave.

clam · 30/05/2014 13:43

By "the kids" I presume you mean that he has his own kids and you have yours?

How can you possibly want to continue in this relationship? Being alone for ever would be preferable to suffering the abuse that pours from his mouth. And then maybe you might meet a man one day who's sweet ALL the time, rather than just when, presumably, he wants sex?

LTB.

tipsytrifle · 30/05/2014 14:01

I hope I'm mistaken but I think there's an escalation of abuse in the air around your situation. As Jan said, he's a nasty piece of work ... he's given me the chills and I'm nowhere near!

I think you should be looking to leave immediately if you're living in his space currently. Like Cogito said, phone Women's Aid ... asap!

bibliomania · 30/05/2014 14:04

That thing about singing your grandfather's funeral song is just nasty, nasty, nasty.

Agree with Women's Aid. They can help you with the practical side of moving out.

oohdaddypig · 30/05/2014 14:05

OP run, run, run and NEVER look back.

This is abuse and it will only get worse.

Don't wait until you are too beaten down and tired to stop fighting for yourself.

clam · 30/05/2014 14:10

OK, so it's not beyond normal for someone to be a bit grumpy if life is stressful. However, your bloke is way ahead of that - the very things he's saying are designed to insult and humiliate, and show total disrespect and disregard for you. And as for the singing of the funeral song. As someone else said, that's just plain nasty.

Why would you want someone like that in your life?

HowardTJMoon · 30/05/2014 15:11

There's an excellent piece written by a clinical psychologist here about identifying abusive behaviours. It lists a number of "red flag" characteristics and suggests that more than three of them indicates a relationship that carries with it a very high risk of emotional damage. Just from what you've written here I can identify the following:

3 - Frightening temper
4 - Killing your self-confidence
6 - The Mean and sweet cycle
7 - It's always your fault
8 - Breakup panic
12 - It's never enough
13 - Entitlement
18 - Walking on eggshells
19 - Discounted Feelings/Opinions
20 - They make you crazy

I suspect if you read the article you'll spot even more. This man is dangerous.

hellsbellsmelons · 30/05/2014 15:34

I will say it again.
Please please call Womens Aid and get a safe exit plan in place.
You need to get yourself and your DC out of there fast.
I think this will escalate from what you have written.
Has he ever been violent? Even a push or blocking of doorways?
Do NOT wait until next week to contact estate agents.
Call some now and get looking at places tomorrow.
Do you have any family or friends you could stay with until you sort yourself out?
This sounds absolutely horrendous and how you have managed to put up with it for 18 months is beyond me.
I'm scared just reading your posts.
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!!!

SoleSource · 30/05/2014 21:07

Has he ever been violent?

LTB

Cwtch12 · 08/03/2016 22:56

I am going through a divorce as I have been separated for two years,left husband as he was very controlling. We have two children fifteen and eleven. I left as I couldn't take anymore,would put me down infront of the children. We live in a lovely rented house and children are happy there,but husband says to them the matrimonial home is where they were born. He cant understand why I left though I have told him the reason.We share access of the children,but I am finding this difficult as he will not listen to my views about the children.My daughter was ill today and I had to collect her from School to take her to my mothers as I had to go back to work,my daughter wanted to stop with me as she was unwell,but as its husbands turn with children,he would not allow this,causing my daughter to be upset. I have stopped going into the house when he is there as the day I told him I wasn't going back to him, he locked me in the house and took keys away,as I was ready to go out of living room window he opened the door.I felt threatened by this behaviour.I feel I want to go for sole custody of children but don't know if this is the right thing to do.Can I have advise what I can do,I work full time but at the moment find it difficult to focus on my job.

Cwtch12 · 08/03/2016 23:05

I am going through a divorce as I have been separated for two years,left husband as he was very controlling. We have two children fifteen and eleven. I left as I couldn't take anymore,would put me down infront of the children. We live in a lovely rented house and children are happy there,but husband says to them the matrimonial home is where they were born. He cant understand why I left though I have told him the reason.We share access of the children,but I am finding this difficult as he will not listen to my views about the children.My daughter was ill today and I had to collect her from School to take her to my mothers as I had to go back to work,my daughter wanted to stop with me as she was unwell,but as its husbands turn with children,he would not allow this,causing my daughter to be upset. I have stopped going into the house when he is there as the day I told him I wasn't going back to him, he locked me in the house and took keys away,as I was ready to go out of living room window he opened the door.I felt threatened by this behaviour.I feel I want to go for sole custody of children but don't know if this is the right thing to do.Can I have advise what I can do,I work full time but at the moment find it difficult to focus on my job.

springydaffs · 08/03/2016 23:17

Cwtch12 - start your own thread with this post. Xx

Op, this man sounds so frightening. You do know that leaving is the danger point? This is when women are seriously hurt or kilted.

You have already told him you are thinking of leaving - I fear for you.

Please call Women's Aid 0808 2000 247. This is severe emotional abuse and could very easily become severe physical abuse.

Don't tell him any more, don't try to reason with him. Start planning to get out asap.

springydaffs · 08/03/2016 23:19

Seriously hurt or killed, of course.

firesidechat · 09/03/2016 07:28

How old are his children?

differentnameforthis · 09/03/2016 08:07

You are an adult, why do you need "punishing" at all!?

he is abusive
he will escalate
he will likely get violent.

Please don't stay thinking he will change, he won't!

Sometimes he can be adorable and so sweet and then he turns and he's a totally different man. No, you got that wrong. He is an abusive arse who can sometimes be sweet, when it suits his agenda!

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