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Help with planning to leave/throw him out

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HelpMeGetOutOfHere · 27/05/2014 15:44

We rent and the tenancy agreement is in my name only (he 'couldn't' take the time off work to come and sign the agreement or even find a house), and I am almost at breaking point with h.

I have posted previously on his pa stance to me going out and having a social life, but things have slowly been stacking up for me and now I realise that I doubt if he even loves me or ever loved me.

We have dc, the eldest is 16 almost 17 and he really needs to know that this is not how relationships should be.

I rarely if ever have friends over as if he comes home and they are there, I will get the silent treatment and then accused of doing nothing all day and being lazy. (I work almost full time, 5 days a week, office 9-3 then home to work from laptop but to be there for dc when home from school), regardless of what has or has not been done. He will only see what hasn't been done.

Currently he has an abscess and requires dental treatment, but when we moved he didn't register with the gp or the dentist and I couldn't do it for him, I even filled out the forms and aid all he needed to do was sign and take to the surgeries, both within 10 minute walk from the house. Cut to a couple of years later and its my fault he never registered. I called my surgeries to see if they would fit him in, both gp and dentist would accept him as new patient but couldn't offer emergency treatment. Given 111 to ring after 5.30 so that he can access emergency after hours clinics, told him he had to ring himself as they had o ask him questions and book him in, he hung up on me!

I'm dreading him coming home now, I know he will be in a foul mood, a because he is in pain and b because he thinks im out to sabotage things or him. Similar situations in the past, ended up shouting match and him calling me a liar and saying that I wouldn't drive him to a/b so he couldn't get there, people can't understand his accent down here, (hes northern and we live in the south east) so no point him calling.

He won't even call for a pizza that's how hard work he is. He acts like the doting father but in reality he doesn't do anything, we have 'pocket' money, basically the money left over after bills/food shopping and any savings I split in half, well his money goes entirely on him, but mine has to buy all the dc clothing, uniforms, shoes, birthday/xmas presents. He spends his on fishing and whatever else he wants, he never pays for meals out or days out out of his pocket, if we are out and he offers the dc an ice cream he will then hold his hand out for cash from me!

He does earn more than me, but then I'm the one that has to be around for the dc. If they are ill he will never take time off to look after them, or wouldn't take them to the gp etc.

the other added complication and probably why I have stuck it out for so long is that we work for the same company. My dads business! How is that going to wok, I can almost guarantee that he will leave immediately and leave people in the lurch, also meaning that he won't pay for the dc. We/I barely have any money left now. I'll never be able to cope financially without any support from him. I earn too much to qualify for anything like tax credits or housing benefit, but at the same time on my salary by the time I paid rent/bills/food etc I will be using more than my salary each month. I already live in the cheapest house available (but with a lovely landlady who maintains the house properly and after having had dodgy landlords in the past I really don't want to move plus couldn't afford the expense of moving) and shop at aldi. Yes I can cut back on clothes shopping and paid for days out, but those are infrequent anyway.

If you made it this far, thank you. Any advice gratefully received.

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Jan45 · 27/05/2014 16:24

He sounds vile, almost like he expects you to do the job of a mother for him too.

I can't think of one positive reason to stay in this relationship, it sounds thoroughly miserable, I feel sorry for you.

You might be surprised at what benefits you are entitled to, lots get tax credits even on a good wage. Knowledge is power, get clued up on what you can get as a single parent.

BeCool · 27/05/2014 16:48

Benefits calculator www.turn2us.org.uk/benefits_search.aspx

I'm not surprised you are unhappy HelpMe.

Do remember you don't have to fight about this - you can simply make a declaration "the relationship is over and I want you to move out". You don't have to argue 'why' with him. While reasonable people might have a discussion about matters, you are not in that situation and it would be a mistake to think you were.

I think you might also be pleasantly surprised how your financial situation improves once you cut Mr MummyMe free.

HelpMeGetOutOfHere · 27/05/2014 18:00

I don't have any child care costs as currently I work around school hours. Those calculators say £10 a week towards rent and £3 odd towards council tax.

My rent is £1100 a month (£100 above local housing allowance but no where around here would I get anything cheaper have boys and girls so can't reduce amount of bedrooms (3bed now) plus even 2 beds around here are close to my rent. 3beds on the market currently are between £1300 & £1700 a month.

I will ring tax credits tomorrow and ask if it's worth applying or not.

If I could get a job in a different area id move.

I know emotionally and physically I'd be much better off but financially I can't make it work. I have to work it out on the basis of no payments from him. As I'm 99.9% certain that he wouldn't turn up for work the next day after me asking him to leave.

When I ask him to leave he actually has no where to go. Literally nowhere. He has no friends to speak of, no family within 30miles.

Aaagghh so frustrating. I need to work things out for me and the dc not me and him. The dc are the important ones here they need to see this isn't normal. I really believed him when he said he wouldn't turn into his dad. The only difference between him and his dad are that he's not a cheater and he hasn't layed a finger on me.

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BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 27/05/2014 18:09

If your eldest is 16 then could they look after the other kids while you work longer hours? Hell, if I was your Dad I'd pay you a full-time wage for the hours you're doing now. Or whatever it was that you needed to manage one your own.

Have you discussed the situation with your father?

HelpMeGetOutOfHere · 27/05/2014 18:26

I do get paid a full time wage. It's quite high especially for what I do circa £2500 a month.

£1100 rent
£200 ct
£120 gas &electric
£60 water
£67 tv phone and net
£400 food
£100 diesel (that's a conservative estimate and need diesel to get to work and back as no public transport within 3 miles)
Car repayment £270
School lunches/bus fares £150 (ds need £60 a month bus pass each or I'd have to get them to school/college on other side of town and dd to school near home at the same
Time)
Total £2467 not including anything extra or my next bill and £40 a month water arrears.

I could probably bring shopping down to just aldi and nowhere else so go from branded to unbranded toiletries along with unbranded everything else. I can't see that I can get phone tv and broadband cheaper as only just reduced it from £110 a month. My mobile is a work one, my car has another 14 months to go until mine.

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HelpMeGetOutOfHere · 27/05/2014 18:28

My dad wouldn't get involved. He's not in a position to offer any extra money, I get paid more than average office worker already and business is suffering from a hopefully short term cash flow problem in that we have plenty of work but people not paying as regularly even long standing 20 something year long customers. We have enough cash flow to keep business going but only just!

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BeCool · 27/05/2014 18:29

council tx will be reduced by about 25% - single adult family

expatinscotland · 27/05/2014 18:32

Lock him out.

HelpMeGetOutOfHere · 27/05/2014 18:39

I'm not that mean expat. If I could I would have done by now.

Redid the benefits calculator and not sure what I did different before but it says just short of £100 a week in total benefits.

I need a clear head to sort this out. I need to know that we will be ok that we will survive and not lose everything.

So I'm guessing the verdict is despite what he says or might say he'll never change?

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BeCool · 27/05/2014 18:44

Are your gas/electric/food estimates including him (i.e. based on now) or without him?

If you can get the benefits of £100pw, reduce your food bills etc you can do it. Things will be hard/tight until you have paid your car off but you can do it. And then in 14 months you will have an additional £270 cpm plus whatever he is paying by then - you be quids in !

And you will be happy!!

Humansatnav · 27/05/2014 18:46

No sweetheart, he will never change, so you will have to make the change of getting rid of his pathetic arse.

HelpMeGetOutOfHere · 27/05/2014 19:07

Yes figures for now so council tax will reduce by £50 with single person reduction. I can't see how the gas and electric will change?
I can cut food down with him gone by going veggie. I prefer vegetarian food and not fussed about meat but he complains it's not a meal without meat. Currently spend less than £70 a week at aldi but then spend another £15-20 a week on bread, milk, extra salad/veggies, fruit juice, soft drinks and the boys branded toiletries (lynx spray and shower gel) so realistically if I told them tough it's aldi or nothing I could probably get to £60 a week.

We have two holidays booked for summer holidays, one was without him anyway but it's the spending money and if I cancel will lose a few thousand as it's all paid off. The other is a uk holiday again paid for but currently very little saved towards spending money.

I know I've read it mysel a million times but things never used to be like this. He prided himself on not being like his dad but last 7years or so he's changed.

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oikopolis · 27/05/2014 19:46

you can reduce your bills and make it work. You only need to scrape by. Really poor people do it all the time, and it's better to be poor and happy, especially when it comes to kids whose lives will be shaped by the choices their parents make. If that means going into 25 or 50 pound a month in debt for a year or two, is that really so bad?

you can call your car financing provider and chat to them about lowering the payments/extending the term. what about speaking to CAB? they usually have good ideas about this kind of thing.

maybe he will walk out of work, fair enough. But eventually he will be employed again, and he'll have to pay maintenance. if he stays unemployed, well, your kids won't be dependent forever, eventually they'll be able to get jobs themselves and take on their own Lynx bills!

i'm sorry about how horrible your H is being. it's not fair on any of you. i hope you find the push you need to go forward from this. this has to stop, the toll it's taking is palpable in your posts.

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