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Shall I go on a family break with 'ex'

16 replies

Bizkit · 22/05/2014 19:05

Still live with ex, though he doesn't accept he is an ex. Won't leave etc, have sort advice here before. Another year has passed and no change. Been to CAB advised I would be worse off if I left.
We have just carried on with life trying to keep things as normal as poss for the kids. Argue same argument every few months. When I get quite adamant about separating he just shouts me down and says we are not separating, can't do that to the kids and I need to think of them etc, I get depressed for a few weeks pick myself up for a bit then the cycle starts again. He blames my negative mind set for not wanting to try.
Suppose it's been prolonged as we both want to get the kids out of the area we live and have seen a few places but have not yet found anywhere, I don't want to move with him but can't get them out to a decent area/school without him.

Anyway the reason I'm posting again really is it's all come to blows again as he wanted to book a few days to Butlins and I said I didn't want to go, we had a row a few days after where I said again separated, no more etc etc got quite heated and again said I didn't want to go on holiday. So he went and booked something and told me after. I said I didn't want to go and I wasn't thrilled about it but maybe he should just take them in his own and it will be a good opportunity to get them (and me) used to us doing things separate and we can tell them the truth, his response was we are not separating we are moving house and we are not telling them the truth cos it isn't the truth and he ain't doing separate holiday shit and I need to stop making a pain in the arse of everything and do stuff together. He said he won't go it's just money. So this trip is tomorrow and I've come home to bags packed for them etc.

What shall I do?

I know he is going to try and guilt trip me into going.
I don't really feel comfortable with him taking them alone, but I'm thinking just put my foot down and not cave in like I normally do( which he is probably expecting)
If I don't go and he stays it will be a tense weekend more than usual plus I will have to feel guilt that they could of been having fun at Butlins! It's all booked and paid for!

If I do go I have to feel uncomfortable all weekend and get moaned at for being miserable and basically put on a pretend smile, plus it's tomorrow and I have nothing packed or prepared and he expects to go as soon as I get home from work.

He says we need time away and time to talk, but we have been talking for nearly 3 years and I feel no different,we went to Butlins last year, made no difference, so not quite sure why he thinks 3 days is gonna change everything, plus we can't really afford it.

I'm starting to feel really low again, but usually this lifts when I'm at work or out or even at home when he is out, I've told him this he just says I need to start doing stuff with him and as a family and things will get better, he doesn't want to accept I'm ok when he isn't around. Guess I just needed a rant today Hmm

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FlatCapAndAWhippet · 22/05/2014 19:12

What a waste of your life. Better off staying?...financially yes but thats all. Be careful, in a blink of an eye you'll be so much older and still as unhappy.

magoria · 22/05/2014 19:15

If you are serious it is over don't go

What is the point of telling him and telling him if you then carry on with him?

If you want to separate get serious and do it.

Lweji · 22/05/2014 19:18

Get a solicitor, start divorce proceedings and let them go on the holiday alone.

He's being an abusive twat, really.

Bizkit · 22/05/2014 19:19

When I get serious, he gets angry, snaps at the kids more and it's generally very unpleasant, I'm worried what will happen if I got solicitors involved (what I would have to do to get him out of house) or if I tried to move myself.

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Bizkit · 22/05/2014 19:20

I've just been trying to keep the peace for nearly 3 years basically

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FlatCapAndAWhippet · 22/05/2014 19:23

The decision is you do what you need to do and go through the pain of his behaviour or you stay.

Mum4Fergus · 22/05/2014 19:28

Let them go and you use the time to start getting your life back...see Sols etc. Previous advise re being worse of was money related I assume? I'd happily do without than live that life...have you family you can go to?

Bizkit · 22/05/2014 19:39

CAB said if I left the council wouldn't have any obligation to help me as I would be making myself homeless and if they did I would probably end up in a shitty B&B in this shitty area for god knows how long. I only work part time so can't afford to rent anywhere suitable on my own.

Also to add my son has epilepsy ( another thing he uses to guilt trip me) and this trip will heighten his chances of a seizure and I won't be there for himConfused,obviously his dad will...if it wakes him up he is quite a deep sleeper (he has night seizures)

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nespressofan · 22/05/2014 19:54

Whether you're at home or at Butlins, what's the difference. Both are shite but at the very least your dkids might have some fun doing activities they don't get to do at home.

On the other hand, you could sort stuff out for yourself whilst you stay at home, but then the kids will suffer because you're not there. Mmmm, tricky. I know I would rather be the responsible adult to be with my epileptic child.

FlatCapAndAWhippet · 22/05/2014 20:01

Go to Butlins,if you've not left him after three years, you're not going to. What ever the reasons for staying, they're making you stay put.

FlatCapAndAWhippet · 22/05/2014 20:02

As the saying goes you're going to have to put up and shut up.... :(

Lweji · 22/05/2014 20:10

Get proper legal advice. The council can't force a divorcing couple to stay together in the same house, so you may have to legally force him to leave. If you are the resident parent, you could get an order that allows you to stay and him to leave.

Maybe start a thread on legal? Also WA may be able to help with this.

Why do you think your son may have a seizure? You shouldn't be held ransom by this. It's a long term condition and at some point he will have to face things he may not like.

Bizkit · 22/05/2014 20:25

His seizures are triggered by excitement, late nights etc, he had one last year at Butlins. ExP would say he could cope on his own if he had one it's me that would worry of it happening and not being there. I mean in general he says we have to stay together as our son has a medical condition and needs us both.

Good point i ain't getting out of this relationship easily so what is a few day away gonna do, it's more that he would be getting his way again and making me do something I don't want, all the while acting as if everything is ok, saying he loves me, calling me darling, babe etc, I can't stand it.

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Lweji · 22/05/2014 20:33

Could you save up for a deposit and private rent and get housing benefit?

There are ways. Get as much advice as you can.

Bizkit · 22/05/2014 22:36

I can get a deposit and apply for housing benefit, but i can't get in a property to begin with on a part time wage...unless I find a Landlord who knows my financial situation before hand and waits for payment from housing benefit which could take a while. Our rent here is cheap and a similar place is at least 200 more In this area. I know moving within this borough is a no no.

Just had a argument, he said he won't take them if I don't go but we Need to go for space and time to talk, he just won't listen. There is nothing else to talk about it's all been said. He says We have to move as it's the last chance to salvage the family, I tell him a new house and new area won't make me love him again but he just blames my negativity and I always say never to everything. I've had quite a few years to think this through and I know I don't want to be with him, moving is not going to fix the hurt, mistrust and resentment he has caused me.
Another exhausting argument, I just want to go to bed and wait for the fall out tomorrow

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Lweji · 23/05/2014 07:38

Could you use the move to move to a different place?
And could you save some cash to pay the first month or so?
Or even borrow from family/friends?

But I do think you need to press ahead with actions to separate, or you'll find yourself in the same position in the next years.

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