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Anyone taken cheating ex back after seperation?

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Hesaysshewaffles · 21/05/2014 20:29

Just that really. I split with stbxh 1.5 years ago after his year long affair. On discovery he said he wanted neither of us.

I plucked up the courage to say I wanted divorce about 5 months ago but it's been a slow process.

This 'finality' makes me feel like we need to give our marriage one last shot as I truly feel as though his paid and realised what he did and there may be hope?!

In that time tho I had a fling (when separated). the feeling of being with someone new gave me excitement I've never experienced. For the first time I felt good about myself and desired and wanted etc. I was with my ex since we were kids and so we never had that stage of our relationship.

Now I'm wondering if I try again with ex because we were always a good 'family' and try a 'new' relationship as I believed he's changed OR do I follow the route I have been taking with OD and going on dates and finding someone new who's never hurt me before?

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Hesaysshewaffles · 22/05/2014 14:59

So no not actively perusing me at all. But would I not have to say I want to be persued. Last thing about us was me saying I wanted a divorce!

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Granville72 · 22/05/2014 15:06

My exh cheated on me, several times it transpired during our divorce and he admitted it, he's had numerous relationships since and cheated on every single one of them.

His current partner is evidently the 'one' and they got engaged. Hasn't stopped him seeing other women (some his exs) though and them turning up on his doorstep - lots of explaining to do to current partner.

Granville72 · 22/05/2014 15:07

Oh, and remember why you asked for a divorce. There was a reason.

AnandaTimeIn · 22/05/2014 15:29

I think the essence of this is that you were together "since you were kids"...

It, s so easy to stay together for the familiarity..

But maybe time to move on? You, ve got a long life ahead of you.

One of the best things I did for myself is live alone and become comfortable with that instead of running to the next same-pattern relationship..

Simplesusan · 22/05/2014 16:46

I only know of one successful relationship where the man cheated and they are still together. The woman makes no secret of the fact that she went out and had sex with a man to pay him back and that she would not forgive a second time.

Know lots of instances where the cheater was forgiven only to do it again and the relationship broke down.

Hesaysshewaffles · 22/05/2014 21:47

I think that's why I'm wondering what if....familiarity. He's the only man I've lived with and all my big milestones in life are with him. I feel that he's paid but at the end of the day he deceived me for a year.

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Granville72 · 27/05/2014 14:30

Exactly, he deceived you for a year. Does that not show you how little respect he had for you and your life together.

Move on, you will meet someone else and realize you and life are so much better than what he offered you.

I was with my ex for 16 years, you grow together and go through so much, and in many respects you also grow apart, and yes it's the familiarity of it all. But if you go back it's just the same old same old. And yes I miss some aspects of that relationship, but I'd never go back to it or him. I'm worth more than that and what he did.

You are worth more than that.

Hesaysshewaffles · 27/05/2014 21:24

Thanks Granville. He did actually text me this week and basically said he would do everything and anything to have me back. Whilst I wanted to hear that for so long and I've never felt we were totally over, I cant help feel that getting together would be me settling for something familiar over the fear of the unknown.

Being a single parent is hard work and I often feel angry at him for putting me in this position and the daily situation he left me in, regardless of me being in a better place. Can I truly forget what he did? I just for know.

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daisychain01 · 27/05/2014 22:56

Hesays, call me cynical but anyone who says he would do everything and anything to have me back is a bullshitter, after what he did to you.

He is being extremely manipulative and in MN speak big red flag!

If he seriously wants to make amends he wouldn't make grandiose claims like that.

Think carefully before you decide to let him back, words are cheap and easily forgotten....

APlaceInTheWinter · 28/05/2014 15:00

I think you asked a very pertinent question when you said 'Can I truly forget what he did?'

I'm not sure it's possible to forget and depending on how and when he cheated before, are those occasions always going to be trigger points for you? Will you be wondering if he is lying? Are you ever going to be able to truly trust him again?

I'm not presupposing the answers to those questions and I'm not asking you to share your response, just to think about them.

It can feel flattering when someone admits they were wrong and says they would do everything to win you back, but tbh your relationship should be beyond the realms of flattery and promises. He tore your family apart and you've rebuilt it and yourself.

Be proud of everything you have achieved. Remember just because he is now saying he wants to win you back, that doesn't mean that he would envisage the same relationship as you would and also it doesn't mean you have to take those wishes into account.

Wishing you lots of strength whatever you decide Thanks

484725gg · 28/05/2014 17:21

Dear All,

I'm writing here to get some advice. I divorced just under 2 years ago, and want to get back with my ex-wife.

It's complicated and I feel no advice would be worth anything if I didn't paint a clear and honest picture of what happened before and since the divorce, and what my motivations are. So this might take a while.

We were together for 30 years, and married for 22. We have 3 children, who are now working or finishing University.

We were going through a rough time emotionnally as a couple before we got married, as we had been through a miscarriage and were struggling to conceive. We were about to break up when it finally came along, and so I/we entered into this marriage with mixed feelings. My Dad had left my Mum (or so I believed at the time - turned out to be the other way round) when I was 2, so there was no way I was going to do the same.

So I tried to be the good family man but, not surprisingly knowing what I know now, I went in and out (mostly in) of phases of depression. I became withdrawn towards my ex, but never let it be seen by my children and did my best to be a good dad. I think I was depressed because I felt trapped, torn between the love I had for my children and the prospect of having to stay in a failed relationship. But because I had decided to stay, I did the whole family thing: 3 children, estate cars, large house, pets, holidays abroad, etc.

Because of my unhappiness, we decided that a change of scene might do me good and we immigrated to the uk about 5 years after we got married (I had always wanted to live in the uk).

We decided to place our children in private schools, to give them a bit of help, since we weren't familiar with the schooling system and curriculum.

Although there were lots of positives, this decision placed a huge financial burden on us.

I could not make enough money by working for someone else, so I started my own business, from home, working all hours, whilst my ex looked after the children.

After about 15 years of that, approaching the age of 50, our marriage fell apart.

I still felt trapped, and started seeing our children's departure with huge apprehension, but also as a sort of possible light at the end of the tunnel. My ex and I did acknowledge the problem and we did talk about it. I wouldn't say she was asking me to leave but she wasn't holding me back too strongly either. It wasn't a mutual decision on the surface, but I think deep down she wasn't too sorry to see the back of me, which I fully understand, given how withdrawn I could be towards her.

It's a bit more complicated than that, since there were flings here and there during that period, but basically, without the children, we seemed to have had little in common.

So we sold the house, closed the business, and divorced. It wasn't 100% amicable, since continental matrimonial laws can less favourable to women than their UK counterparts, but it was basically fair, given what we'd respectively put into the marriage. I'm certain she still disagrees.

My relationship with my children was very strained at first but, after the initial phases of anger and sadness, they became good. Not as good as I would like (or as they should if I could explain to them the sacrifices I made) but good. Any innocent comment can easily be taken the wrong way.

Right after the divorce, I met someone whom I lived with almost right away, and who was very possessive, to the point of not wanting me to spend too much time with my children (and ex) at xmas (appropriately spelt ?), as an example. Every visit to my ex was the subject of disobliging comments. Not sure whether that's justified or not. My Dad thought it was. Everyone else, including me, didn't.

Not surprisingly, this new relationship didn't last too long - 2 years. During that time, much to everyone's surprise (children and friends mainly) my ex and I enjoyed a good relationship - although we only saw each other in presence of the children (else I'd risk castration) we seemed to enjoy each other's company, helped each other out whenever we could and, generally, were very positive towards each other.

Ok, I'll get to the point.

The point is, I want to get back with her. I don't mean in a physical (I'm 54, too old for really good sex) way, or even in an emotional one (I wouldn't say I'd be indifferent if she had boyfriends, but I couldn't blame her if she did, and wouldn't want to either) but I am just attached to her. I love her like I love my Mum and my children.

Why is this different to when we were married ? I think it is simply because I wouldn't HAVE to. No obligation. There is nothing, absolutely nothing - babies, finance, jobs, peer pressure - that is making me want to do this. And since I believe this was the main cause of my depression and all that followed, I think it has a good chance of working.

The benefits would be numerous:

  • neither of us being lonely (she has lots of friends, I have very few - easier to make friends when you are picking kids from school then when you are forced to work from home). I don't think she or I mind solitude too much, but just having someone around to cook, watch tv, walk the dog and share chores would be much more pleasant.
  • able to move into a larger house (we each have our own 2 up 2 down small cottage) so as to accommodate all our children and their boyfriends, babies, parents, etc. when they visit. It is currently a nightmare even if the children turn up by themselves.
  • but most importantly of all, giving back a united family to our children and future grandchildren, and to some extent our respective parents. That's the big attraction for me. I thought my job as a Dad was accomplished when the children left. I can now see how stupid that was.

I don't think my ex loves me in the traditional sense. I think she probably has the same feelings for me as I do for her, with a varying degree of fondess, mixed with suspicion (that my intentions are different to the above) and apprehension (that I am overly optimistic).

Anyway, my intention is to invite her to diner (should I take her to the hotel/restaurant that I took her to on our first weekend abroad in 1983 ? she would be on her guard - is that a good thing, a little advance shock-absorbing warning of what's to come ?) and, as we are sat at the table, hand her a letter explaining all of this: why and how I want us to be a family again, why it didn't work before and why I think it would work now.

Other than the expected inconvenience of having to send the waiter back a few times, do you think it is a good way to go about it ? How do you think she might react ?

Thank you for taking the time to read this - well done if you got this far - and please let me know all your thoughts. I would read them with interest.

x

Bindibach · 30/05/2014 08:02

484 you would be better off starting a separate thread of your own to receive responses to this. Smile

484725gg · 30/05/2014 17:15

@ Bindiback

Ok, yes, you are right. Perhaps no one has managed to finish reading it :)

I'll follow your advice. Thanks.

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