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Think I'm having a breakdown, but am scared to get help for several reasons...

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breakingpoint30 · 21/05/2014 11:36

Hello

I've suffered on and off with depression since I was 12, so 18 years now.

I was fine as a child and then one day, something snapped and I was absolutely terrified to go to school. Nothing had changed. I was happy, popular (most important thing at that age) had a settled and stable home, lots of friends etc, but for some reason, this crippling sense of dread came over me and that was that. It got worse and worse and eventually, I stopped going to school and was home schooled, which was very isolating and lonely. When my parents were out, I would shut the curtains and sometimes, would self harm. I was completely and utterly miserable. I had therapy, which was useless and was put on anti depressants, which took the edge of the anxiety I suppose, but didn't do that much tbh. I got terrible withdrawal symptoms when I came off them and the brand, seroxat, have since been documented as doing more harm than good and can make anxiety and depression in children and adults more severe.

I didn't end up doing any of my GCSE's and felt and complete failure. I went to college at 16 and took a few courses, so I had that as a back up, but always knew I could have done so much more if it weren't for my crippling anxiety.

I say my depression has been on and off, because yes, there have been periods in my life, where I have been ok and dare I say, happy. However, that feeling doesn't last for long. Even when I'm doing alright, I still get anxious with day to day life, which can be so incredibly exhausting.

I had a 10 year relationship from 18 - 28 and we had a DD together, who has certain issues shall we say and we're right at the beginning of getting her assessed and possibly diagnosed with mild ASD, or ADD. I feel a lot of guilt because I feel like maybe it's something I have caused. I was very stressed during the pregnancy and me and my now ex, would have terrible rows, which would usually end up with me in tears feeling like my world was coming to an end. We had an incredibly volatile relationship, from beginning to end really our DD witnessed a fair few of our arguments, which again, I feel a lot of guilt for.

I am bi sexual and 2 years a go, I met and feel in love with a woman. I didn't have a sexual affair, but you could describe it as an emotional affair. I ended things with my ex before things went to the next level. He really struggled getting back on his feet after I left him and I feel absolutely terrible about hurting him so much. I still don't feel like he's completely over me, even though he's in a serious relationship with somebody else. So again, there's guilt there. The guilt gets worse with time in fact.

My gf is absolutely lovely and I love her so much, but I just can't relax and accept and enjoy that I've found something very special. I really struggle with reactions that we get and the unwanted attention. Gf just doesn't care, but I am constantly aware of it and I just can't relax.

I cry pretty much every day. I wake up crying sometimes and I re play bad things in my head over and over. Sometimes, I get the shakes and I feel completely terrified that something bad has, or will happen. It's mental torture, but I don't know how to stop it. I've noticed that my speech is slower and I find reading more difficult, which I know is because I'm depressed again. I know all the signs, but this time it seems much worse, which is why I'm wondering if I am in fact having a break down.

My gf said I should go to my gp for a referal to a therapist, but it was only a few years a go that I had CBT, which didn't really do much tbf. Also, we are considering maybe adopting in the future, when I'm better, but I'm worried this will be recorded and we won't be allowed. Gf is very supportive and says that the main thing is that I get help, but I would love a sibling for DD, who would be a lovely big sister and hate to think that me getting help could make this impossible.

I don't know what to do. I'm so stuck, but I know I need help.

Thanks for reading.

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knowledgeispower · 21/05/2014 11:48

From what you describe it sounds as though you may have OCD. The repetitive thoughts suggest this (common misconception that it's just hand washing and cleaning!

I'm not a psychologist but a close family member is and we have talked at length about repetitive thoughts. There are some amazing techniques you can use.

Your girlfriend is right, I'd go to your gp and describe the thoughts etc and mention OCD. If you don't get any joy get a second opinion. You should get referred to the local mental health team who will access and treat you.

Good luck!

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 21/05/2014 11:50

You shouldn't look at getting help as a barrier to adopting. If your mental health isn't addressed then that is a barrier to adopting and you need to make sure you are as healthy as you can be. You cannot and should not attempt to adopt with unmet mental health needs as it's not fair on the child.

breakingpoint30 · 21/05/2014 12:09

Knowledge, interesting you say OCD. I had never thought of it before because yes, I thought it was the classic hand washing, turning on and off light switches etc. I did an online test for OCD, but assumed I'd score really low (was on embarassing bodies) but I scored really high.

Ehric, I agree. I wouldn't go down the adoption route whilst feeling like this. Of course it's not fair on the child. I suppose I just keep telling myself that I can 'fix' it all myself. Professional intervention hasn't been helpful for me so far, so why would it be now? That's my thinking anyway.

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breakingpoint30 · 21/05/2014 13:30

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moldingsunbeams · 21/05/2014 13:36

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breakingpoint30 · 21/05/2014 13:54

molding, thanks for your reply.

How long have you had these thoughts and anxiety?

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moldingsunbeams · 21/05/2014 14:00

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ColouringInQueen · 21/05/2014 14:00

Dear Op it does sound like some sort of talking therapy would be helpful to you. Maybe more of a person-centred approach than CBT so you can explore the various stressors in your head, and hopefully become more comfortable in your new relationship. Does sound like it's worth a chat with your GP given how low you're feeling and see what counselling is available locally. If pushed, could you afford private counselling? Wishing you all the best.
p.s if you re-post this is the mental health section you might get some other people posting...

breakingpoint30 · 21/05/2014 14:18

molding, I'm sorry you can relate to this feeling. It's horrible isn't it.

Me and dp went on a mini break recently and it should have been a lovely, relaxing, romantic time. Instead, I spend almost an entire day, so a 3rd of the holiday, in our hotel room, crying uncontrollably, insisting I was a terrible mum and just generally a failure. I felt so terrible for dp, because she is bound to think it's something she's doing, or not doing. She couldn't be any nicer, or more supportive, but it's not something she can fix and she shouldn't have to.

Colouring, I've looked into counselling, but I really do think I need something more. Is counselling not more about listening, rather than offering advice, or help? In theory, CBT should have really helped me and for a short time, I thought it did. However, very soon after the therapy stopped, my old thoughts came back and the cycle began. With it being on the NHS, you only get a certain amount of sessions (12 I think) and although I got a few more, as my therapist felt it was necessary, I did feel quite rushed and under pressure to kind of 'get fixed' and move on, so somebody else could be treated. Couldn't go private right now, but we should be financially better off within a couple of months.

At the risk of repeating myself, the guilt is just overwhelming. It's over taking everything. I feel guilty for being stressed when pregnant. I feel guilty for leaving my ex and seeing him hit rock bottom I feel guilty for DD now coming from a 'broken' home. I feel guilty for not giving my DP more. I feel guilty for potential bullying my DD might get, because her mummy is in a same sex relationship. I feel guilty for not feeling mentally stable enough to work. Honestly, the guilt list could go on and on.

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moldingsunbeams · 21/05/2014 14:32

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badtime · 21/05/2014 14:51

OP, there are different sorts of CBT.

I have OCD, and I have received treatment using two different kinds. Firstly, I had a psychological kind, to help deal with the anxiety, to stop the thoughts 'spiralling' (I didn't want medication). After that (and currently) I am receiving 'ERP' (exposure and response prevention), which is the recommended form of CBT for treating OCD symptoms.

If you didn't realise you had OCD symptoms before (and tbh, your post does not sound like you have classic OCD, but it could be 'pure O' or a related condition), your therapist may have tried treating the wrong thing. This is apparently extremely common in primarily obsessive forms of OCD (without compulsions like handwashing, cleaning, checking etc).

The most OCD-sounding thing about your comments is your focus on guilt and things you should have done, things you could do. OCD is all about guilt and shame and feeling responsible for everything.

I am a lot better than I was even a couple of months ago, and would recommend seeking treatment to anyone with these sorts of issues, even if you think it won't work.

breakingpoint30 · 21/05/2014 15:38

bad, I'm glad you're responding well to your treatment.

With regards to the guilt, I'm used to feeling it, but recently it's more about replaying moments over and over. Moments I want to be able to change, but can't obviously. I can play a conversation again and again in my head and I know when I'm doing it that it's completely pointless.

Sometimes I'll think about terrible things, which don't even have anything to do with me. I can't comprehend or get my head around just how much pain and suffering there is in the world and I wish I could take it away. If I've seen something sad on the news for example, I sometimes can't get it out of my head for the rest of the day and get very low. I wish I had a switch, where I could turn off my dark thoughts.

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badtime · 21/05/2014 16:16

I don't know if this is relevant or helpful, but here is some information about 'pure o' (mostly in the pdf, I think):

ocduk.org/pure-o

Here is an article from the Guardian last year:

www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/31/pure-ocd-the-naked-truth

Do either of these sound like your problem?

breakingpoint30 · 22/05/2014 11:39

Bad, thanks for those links

The pure O sounds familiar, but not in the context that that woman was describing. I certainly get the vicious cycle of dark thoughts.

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breakingpoint30 · 22/05/2014 11:41

Just to add, I think sometimes it's like I'm making myself imagine the worst thing possible, maybe so that there's nowhere to go after that, if that makes any sense.

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heyday · 22/05/2014 12:19

If you don't get some help now then things will only get worse. There are many types if therapy available nowadays and a whole range of therapists and hopefully you can find one that suits you. This could be depression by itself or could have an element if OCD thrown in too. Have a word with your doctor and see what help is available. Guilt sometimes overwhelms us but it is often a pointless emotion as there is quite often nothing we can do to change things. Sounds like you have a lovely gf who has a lot of strength. Get some help now so you can get on with your life and enjoy it with those you love.

breakingpoint30 · 22/05/2014 19:55

Thanks heyday. I do have a lovely gf. Sometimes I feel like I don't deserve her. All she seems to be doing recently, is reassuring and comforting me. I'm worried she'll eventually have enough of how messed up I am.

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heyday · 22/05/2014 20:45

Hopefully you have found some strength and support on this site and you can take the bull by the horns and get to see your GP. You owe it to yourself, your daughter and your gf to be well and happy. The stronger you are then the more able you will be to support your DD with her difficulties. I know it's really hard but just believe that your gf loves you and wants to be with you. You may need some medication to help you through this difficult patch. Hopefully GP will refer you to a suitable therapist. Have you tried yoga or meditation as this may help to calm your mind a little. There is only one barrier to you obtaining help and that is yourself so please, please make a call to your doctor tomorrow and get an appointment fixed up. You may have generalised anxiety disorder GAD which is being more recognised nowadays. There are many anti depressants on the market now so you may need to experiment to find the right one for you.

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