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How to help my DH feel better about step dad making him feel rejected.

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SmashingPumpkins · 14/05/2014 16:57

Hello, have namechanged for this only as I don't really divulge personal stuff on here and I have RL friends who might be able to out me from reading this post and I like my anonymity!

I'm asking for help because my DH is feeling rejected by his step dad (will call him SD) and I don't know how to help him. SD has been in DH's life since he was 9 - married DH's mum and they has a DD together when DH was 13. DH considers the DD to be his sister and they were brought up as brother and sister (they are never referred to as half siblings). SD was a father to DH and they have a good solid loving relationship. DH's bio dad is pretty flaky but they are in touch.

SD and DH's mum divorced and remarried other people about 15 years ago. DH has continued a father/son relationship with his SD despite this.

SD now has a terminal illness and DH is pretty devastated - for him he is losing a father. We are trying to make the most of the time he has left but it is all rather fraught and tough on everybody.

DH went to see his SD on his way home from work yesterday (he and his present wife live near us and we see them regularly). SD told DH that he will be leaving all his assets to his current wife and his DD (DH's half sister) and that DH will receive nothing. SD said that he sees this as normal as DH is not his 'blood son'.

SD for various work and family related reasons has a lot of valuable assets - we are talking hundreds of thousands of pounds. DH feels terribly rejected by a man who he loves like a father as he is making a clear and deliberate decision to leave nothing to DH. This feeling of rejection is not at all about money for DH - it is about the symbolism and feeling hurt and mistaken over the relationship he thought he had with his SD.

Of course we fully expect SD to make sure that his current wife is looked after after his death and we fully expect him to leave assets to his DD. And of course SD may do whatever he wishes with his money. I cannot stress enough that this is not about DH wanting money - it is about how this makes him feel his SD considers him, basically "no son of mine" despite 30 years of closeness and what DH thought was a loving relationship.

Thank you if you have got this far! The only comforting thing I can think to say is that SD is possibly of an older generation which sees family ties differently to our generation and believes that money/goods should stay within a 'blood line' but that this doesn't necessarily mean that he does not consider DH 'family'. This isn't helping DH at all - he feels very hurt and confused and is feeling desperately sad that his SD's days are numbered and that whilst he feels he is losing a father, the 'father' in question doesn't appear to feel he is saying goodbye to a son. He is very confused and I don't know how to help.

Thanks for any wise words...

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Mumoftwoyoungkids · 15/05/2014 20:02

FWIW dh's brother has a step son and a birth son. (Our nephews.). It is unlikely to ever reach them (as but our will specifically treats the two boys exactly the same.

Big dn (step nephew) may inherit from his dad but that isn't the point. We love the boys the same (known big dn since he was 3) so we treat them the same. We can't adjust for what others do - or for the fact that one may be more successful / win the lottery / get a serious illness. We can only do what we feel is right.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 15/05/2014 20:04

Sorry the third sentence should say

It is unlikely to ever reach them (as they only inherit if all 4 of us die)......

NadiaWadia · 15/05/2014 21:08

I am sorry your DH is going through this. How hurtful it must be, and yet it is hard to say anything, as you say people may leap to the conclusion that he is primarily concerned about the money. Sad that he doesn't have a good relationship with his DM either. All he can do really is emotionally withdraw from his SD, still visit him if he wants and go to the funeral etc, but tell himself 'Ah well, SD was not the person I thought he was, we didn't really have the relationship I thought we did'. It's very sad, but he does need to withdraw to protect himself. Shame he has been let down by his DM, DF, and now SD.

But he is very lucky in one respect that he clearly has a wonderful and very caring partner in you. I need he needs to concentrate on the family he has made for himself now.

NadiaWadia · 15/05/2014 21:11

Oh and I'm pretty sure he can't be held responsible for his bio F's debts, so I wouldn't worry about that.

SmashingPumpkins · 16/05/2014 08:47

Okay, we are starting to get to the bottom of things.

Last year there was a big fall out over some stuff. DH and I were accused by his mum of taking things that weren't ours and that belonged to his sister. We were in fact storing them until his sister could come and sort them out with DH (this was two cardboard boxes of bits and bobs such as glasses, vases, ornaments, etc that SD passed on to DH and asked him to sort out with his sister who wanted what. There was nothing of any real value and SD had nearly chucked the stuff out.)

DH's mum kept going on about these boxes and was desperate to see what was inside them and numerous times asked me where they were and what was in them. Each time I said that I had no idea (I didn't, I knew they were in our house somewhere like the garage or the attic but I didn't know what was in them and AFAIWC they were nothing to do with me). Indeed they were nothing to do with my MIL - this was stuff her ex husband was giving his DD and his stepson and it was up to the two of them to sort out. I think MIL must have been convinced that there was valuable stuff like family silver or goodness knows what.

So one day, probably a few months after we had started storing these boxes, SIL comes down for a visit and stays at her mums. DH mentioned to her that she might want to come and have a look at the boxes of stuff and see what she wanted (we had not even opened the boxes as DH was waiting to go through the stuff with his sister). In the afternoon MIL calls me and announces that she and SIL are coming over to sort out the stuff. I suggested that they come another time as DH wasn't home and it actually wasn't very convenient for me plus the boxes were nothing to do with either me or MIL.

They came over anyway but a bit later on. MIL asked me to get the boxes and I told her I didn't know where they were (I honestly didn't we had just moved house and hadn't unpacked all our own stuff, we have a big garage and attic and there were boxes in both.) Also I didn't think it was right to have MIL and SIL going through this stuff without DH there as the stuff had been very clearly given to both him and his sister.

DH arrived back from work and MIL was already a bit worked up and basically had said that she thought I was lying about not knowing where the boxes were. She is very materialistic and lives in a massive house bursting at the seams with stuff. I imagine it was beyond her to believe that I had no interest in these boxes of knick knacks.

So anyway things went from bad to worse with MIL jumping on DH the second he got in the door and demanding to see the boxes (by this point I was realising that she was convinced that DH and I had probably already gone through them ourselves and taken "the good stuff". In other words that we had stolen things that she sees as her daughter's).

The three of them went to our garage and DH pulled the boxes out, I was in the kitchen feeding the DC and also just keeping out of the way as it was nothing do with me and I could see that things were already tense. I suggested that MIL stop in the kitchen with me and offered her a glass of wine as I could see where things were going. MIL has form for being very grabby, she covets things and can never have enough.

She ignored me and went through and started rummaging through the stuff and telling her DD what she should take and saying things like "take that it's valuable" (I think this was over about 4 mismatched odd crystal glasses). DH asked her to stop sticking her nose in and let his sister go through the stuff herself. MIL accused him of not wanting his sister to have what was rightly hers and said that she was there to defend her daughter against us. Wow! DH asked her to get out the garage, they all came through to the kitchen where I was with the kids and were raising their voices at each other so I told them to get the hell out of my house and take their argument into the garden as my DC were upset and trying to eat their dinner.

SIL just stood by pretty passively and let her mum accuse her brother and I of taking things that belonged to her, in other words stealing. DH asked them to leave. They went off and then a few days later DH dropped all the stuff off at his mum's and said he wanted nothing more to do with it.

When all this was happening DH spoke to his step dad and explained that it had all gone tits up and SD said he would have a word with his daughter just to clarify that he had passed the boxes on to us and asked us to hang onto them until a moment where DH and his sister could sort them out.

These boxes have been brought up by SD over the subject of his will and he has said that considering what a mess all that was it is better all round if DH receives nothing on his death. It turns out that MIL and SIL told him that we stole the stuff.

So there we go. Over a couple of boxes of junk, DH is being hurt and insulted by his mother, sister and SD. He's a thief who steals his step family's things and I'm a liar and his accomplice.

Sorry for the essay, I needed to get that out.

Nadia, thanks for your kind words. DH and I are glad to have each other and our family and our values.

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pointythings · 16/05/2014 08:54

Oh Pumpkins that is so sad, I really feel for you and your DH. What a shame his SD has chosen to think so badly of him. At least now you know what they are really like, and I'd use this as an opportunity to disengage from them. As you have said, you have each other, your family and your values - which don't involve lying and mistrust. Flowers

SmashingPumpkins · 16/05/2014 09:16

Thank you pointy. I think that is the worst of it - that SD appears to think that we have been up to no good despite him knowing fine well what his ex-wife is like and also knowing that the boxes have been left for her and her DD to do what they like with.

It seems that he is "punishing" DH for something he obviously chooses to believe we have done or tried to do.

What a mess. I don't see how this can be sorted and I think you are right - we have no choice other than to disengage from the lot of them. DH is devastated. His mother has created a huge mess by projecting her own materialism onto us, his sister has acted like a passive child and his SD is being very strange (perhaps because he is ill but perhaps not).

At the moment we are very much feeling like we want nothing from any of that side of the family - when SD cleared out his own parent's home DH was given a table and a chest of drawers. We want to return them as everything feels so tainted and toxic. Will we be accused of having muscled in and taken them too? Don't want to upset SD who is very ill and it feels cruel to take those things to him but we don't want them.

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pointythings · 16/05/2014 09:24

I think at this point you need to look after yourselves. Your SD has made his bed, let him lie in it. If returning your tainted items of furniture is going to make you feel freed of this toxic family, you should do it. Your SD and the others have shown that they do not give a damn about your feelings, so now your concern should be for your family and your family alone. Get rid of the furniture, allow yourselves to grieve for the family you thought you had and move on. In time you will meet people who deserve to have you and your family as friends in their lives.

SmashingPumpkins · 16/05/2014 10:27

Thank you again for your kind words pointy. They really are quite mad in this family. It took DH and I quite some time to swallow the whole boxes nonsense and we found it hard to be around his mum (and sister) for quite a while afterwards. Things have never really been the same since and we felt badly treated and insulted. We made the decision to keep seeing them for our DC really. MIL did her usual and glossed over the whole thing and was cluelessly scratching her head months later wondering why we are a bit distant with them. And now this.

You are right we need to look after ourselves and as you wisely say "grieve for the family you thought you had and move on".

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pointythings · 18/05/2014 18:20

Hi pumpkins, sorry not to have posted earlier - I've been away Internet-free, very therapeutic, I do it regularly...

It sounds as if you and your family have done your absolute utmost to do right by a very, very dysfunctional family. It hasn't worked for you or for them. You all sound lovely, grounded, caring and sensible - this is why it is so painful for you, if you were like them then it would not hurt.

Going back to my mum - it did take her time to get over the sense of feeling betrayed by her stepfather. He was a narcissist and my mum had an emotionally abusive and neglectful upbringing - what helped her heal was the realisation that she had not perpetuated her family's mistakes with her own family. I hope your DH can take comfort from the knowledge that he has also achieved that - it is a really big thing to realise, most people end up repeating their families' mistakes.

ethelb · 04/12/2015 19:22

My mother is in a similar situation in that her father died and my step grandmother has put all of the estate in trust to my mother's half brother.
My mother and her full brother have never challenged this. But there is a lot of bitterness( that has to be honest affected my relationship with my mother).
As awful, selfish and horrible though it all is I do not doubt my grandmother's love for me and her other 'half' grandchildren. We have never been anything but her grandchildren, and I honestly don't think she loves us any less than her 'full' grandchildren.
Could you go in on that angle, ask what he can leave to his grandchildren so at least the hurt doesn't affect another generation?

ImperialBlether · 04/12/2015 19:55

Ethel, this thread is 18 months old!

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