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why do my family always have to try and knock my confidence :(

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wannaBe1974 · 27/08/2006 21:53

this may be long so I apologise in advance.

me and dh have been talking about moving. We live in Swindon and dh works in London so commutes two hours each way to work and back every day. Suffice to say, this travelling is now getting too much for him and he would like to move closer to London. We went through something similar two years ago, we decided to move to Surrey, but if I'm honest I had lots of doubts about that from the outset as ds was only two then and I had friends here and m/t groups etc that ds loved and the thought of moving away terrified me. But I went along with it, we sold our house and put in an offer on one in Surrey, but two weeks before exchange I had a change of heart and realized I couldn't do it. Dh was very understanding and we backed out and bought a bigger house here instead. But since then dh has changed jobs and his new job is more demanding, and the subject of moving has come up again. This time though I feel that I'm at a different point in my life, and moving wouldn't be so terrifying for me.

But this time we're looking at Essex, and yesterday we went to Chelmsford to have a look around. We found an area we liked the look of in terms of houses, and I really liked the town centre, and I came away feeling quite excited even at the prospect of moving there. Ds will start school next year, there are good schools, and I intend to do my counselling which I can do at the university, something which also isn't as easily available where we currently live.

So we've decided that we're going to put our house on the market and see where we go from there, i.e. see how quickly we can sell etc.

But the biggest thing for me has been my family. It's no secret that I don't get on hugely well with my mother, well since we've talked about moving she's been nothing but negative. Firstly she was saying that she thought my dh should give up his job in london and move to Swindon, a step which would mean I would have to go back to work and we'd still have to downsize the house. So I wrote off that idea, then she's been telling me that I won't make any friends in Chelmsford, that dh will be at work all day and I'll be home alone, and when I pointed out I intend to go to uni and that people meet people at school gates etc anyway, she just said "oh yeh, well we'll see".

I know she makes some valid points, I know I'm going to have to make the effort to go out and meet people, I know it's not going to be easy, but I do also know that it can be done - mother dear pointed out that I would be "on your own all day when you move there" well what the hell does she think I do here? Yes it's nice to have family nearby sometimes, and I realize that there will have to be compromises, I'm not totally naive, but we've lived here all this time for my benefit, now my dh deserves to be considered as well, and moving will benefit ds in the long term in terms of education.

I was so positive about this earlier today, and now she's waded in and trampled all over it, it's as if she believes I can't do anything, why does she have to be like that? why can't she be a supportive mother - why does she have to always put me down?

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Barbie7 · 27/08/2006 21:58

It's really hard not to take parental advice to heart. I have similar from my Dad. But anyway, you will make lots of friends when you move. Don't let your Mum put you off!

If it helps maybe you could keep phone calls short with her so she doesn't get a chance to rip your confidence to shreds. At stressful times with my family I've got caller display and have avoided talking on the phone at all, or I wait until I feel more up to it. Or, get your dh to pretend theres an "emergency" in the background and you must hang up!!

bamik · 27/08/2006 22:06

Oh FFS why do mothers have to be like this!!!!!!!! My mum is the same. U try to do something positive and they just shatter it to peices with their negativity!!

WB1974, all I can say is - U GO GIRL! I think that you moving is a great idea. Chelmsford is very nice. I mean your DH is commuting for 4 hours a day! That's nuts! Like you said your DS will be starting school soon, so what's stopping you.

Babe, if we always listened to what other people said (family incl.), where would we be?

I hope your move goes well babes x

cat64 · 27/08/2006 22:14

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madrose · 27/08/2006 22:21

is your mum scared of you moving?

Maybe she is saying these things because she is jealous, worried that she may lose contact with you (especially if the realtionship is not fab), won't see grandson etc. It sounds like she is trying to dissuade you from going for her own reasons.

I think you're being really supportive to our DH, and it does sound very very exciting.

Would having a 'frank' chat with your ma help?

Sandcastles · 28/08/2006 05:08

""I was so positive about this earlier today, and now she's waded in and trampled all over it, it's as if she believes I can't do anything""

Well then, time to prove her wrong! I have just moved from UK to Australia. The only people I know here are my DH's family, I have left all my friens and family behind, so had dd & dh. (don't talk to my mum though) and you know what? We talk now more than ever! I have joined a couple of playgroups, you have to get yourself out there, which you seem happy to do. With ds starting school soon that will open up a whole new range of stuff for both of you.

My mother told my sister that I wouldn't be able to keep in touch as I'm too self centered & that I would come running back to the UK. Ok, so I have only been here 9 weeks, but I have no intention of going back. I miss people, not places.

Being in Oz does get lonely, but I have to take in consideration time zones when I need to take stuff thru, at least you won't be have to do that! Or spend in excess of a grand to visit them, either.

Your mum is probably scared of losing you, knowing that you won't be right there like you are now. Also, our parents see their failures in us too, my mother critisised EVERYTHING I did when I get involved with Dh & engaged, then moving in with him. My being sucessful at this relationship only reminded her that she wasn't, and at 60, with 4 children, 13 grandchildren (out of which only one daughter speaks to her & her 4 kids) 3 marriages behind her she is as lonely as ever. Our maybe your mum will just miss you. It's hard to tell.

What I do know is that you now have your family, you, you dh & your ds. You have to do what feels right for you. It will be hard & lonely some times, until you meet new people....

But hey...at least you take us lot with you! Just reading through Mumsnet somedays (when you are all alseep) makes me feel like I've got friends out there!

You'll never know if you never try....Good Luck!

Sandcastles · 28/08/2006 05:10

""when I need to TALK stuff thru""

humpydumpy · 28/08/2006 05:45

I agree with Sandcastles and Madrose that your Mum probably doesn't want you to move. What she is saying to you most likely doesn't have anything to do with you personally just her own insecurities about you moving.

I too moved over to Oz earlier this year and both my parents, who are usually very supportive have been very negative about the move (not that I expected them to whoop with joy). They constantly pointed out what I would miss and questioned our plans. Dad has calmed down but Mum still lays the emotional blackmail on thick.

I handle it by staying up beat when I talk to them and steer the conversation on to more positive things and sounding excited about things. No doubt they think I am being insensitive/unsympathetic but it keeps me sane. Moving away from family and friends is not easy for anyone involved and so long as you know what you're doing is right for you, you have to just let the negativity roll over your head and accept it's just part of the teritory.

Sandcastles · 28/08/2006 07:09

humpty, where in Oz are you? are you settling in

(sorry for hijack)

chenin · 28/08/2006 08:13

wannaBe... you sound so practical and positive about your move... don't let your Mum spoil your positivity...
I do understand what you are saying... my Mum always criticised or was negative about any choices in my life...right down to going on and on about the wood floor we put in a play room. It does get you down after a while but I am sure you can rise above it...
Good luck

humpydumpy · 28/08/2006 08:36

Hi Sandcastles. I'm in Perth and loving it, don't regret it one bit. How about yourself?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 28/08/2006 08:43

wannabe1974

Some people just do not want others to be happy and that includes parents. Mine are a bit like this so empathise, I just say yeah, yeah, yeah and do what I intended to do anyway. Be the adult here and rise above it. Not really surprised to see that you don't really get along with your Mother - I would hazard a guess that this has been the case for a long time.

You have only one life and you're a long time dead - be brave and make the move to Chelmsford!!!. Its a lot nearer to London for a start and some trains from Liverpool Street of an evening do first stop Chelmsford. The train service ONE does is generally okay and the commute from there would be far less onerous. I live just south of there and shop there regularly, it has a lot going for it. I'd be happy to meet up with you if and when you move there.

Pages · 28/08/2006 09:48

I've moved to different cities and lived abroad loads of times in my life - of course you will make news friends! How exciting for you!

Wasn't clear if your mum is in Swindon? Maybe your mum doesn't want you to leave and can't just come out and say it? In any event she is playing on the bit of you that is afraid, which is very manipulative. Don't let her! Sounds like this is a pattern with her and all the more reason for you to ignore her, and develop your confidence by doing things that are a bit scary for you sometimes, starting with now!

Sandcastles · 28/08/2006 14:44

humpty, Adelaide. Nope, no regrets here. How long have you been here?

Jimjams2 · 28/08/2006 15:15

WannaBe- glad you liked Chelmsford And it sounds like a great move if you can get to the university there (one brilliant advantage to moving to our house here was that its within walking distance of the university so I able to do my course here- and get back for ds1's bus etc- it wasn't a plan when we bought the house but it ended up being a big plus). Unis are a great place to meet people as well- the best thing about this year's course has been meeting a new bunch of people (ranging in age from 20's-40's). And it was easy meeting them as we were all starting a new course at the same time.

I think your mum has "issues". I think if you don't even argue with her, just go ahead and do it- she can't tell you you won't cope if you are.

Musty ask you more about your counselling you are doing......

lemonysnickett · 28/08/2006 21:03

Mums can be really hard sometimes. Usually to do with their own insecurities and their need to be needed. I had some invaluable advice..do not take it personally..negative comments like this say more about your mum than you.
Love them to bits..but sometimes they can be quite selfish and insensitive.

hoolagirl · 29/08/2006 10:35

Ooooh my mum is exactly like this, are we sisters?

Please just go and get on with your own life with your family, I don't know why they do things like this, but the only thing I have managed to do is ignore her which seems to work !!

Sounds very exciting x

wannaBe1974 · 29/08/2006 16:18

well I spoke to an estate agent this morning and they're coming round tomorrow to put the house on the market. So needless to say spent the weekend cleaning to make it nice and presentable for perspective viewers, oh and for the photo's when they go up on rightmove, :-).

I think some of you are right - my mother is a little jealous, and even a bit resentful of the fact that I have my own life, and the fact that, in all reality, she's not a very big part of that life. My mum and sister are very close, but I never felt that closeness to her as she spent most of my life being critical, and therefore I don't feel the support, even though she feels that she is being supportive. And yes jj she most certainly does have "issues".

Of course moving to a new town is scary, but tbh am feeling very positive about it this time, as opposed to the last time when I wasn't sure it was what I wanted to do.

Atilla thank you for offer of meeting up - might take you up on that as it's always nice to meet new people .

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expatinscotland · 29/08/2006 16:22

My mum's been pissing me off w/her 'Poor DH' routine that he stays home during the day to look after the girls.

Never mind that I'm here at this crap job all day and walk 5 miles to get here and back and then get home and do EVERYTHING when he goes to work.

I finally told her to knock that sh*t off b/c it's getting old.

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