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Who thinks its really bad to drink a whoe bottle of white wine in a night?

51 replies

emmawill · 25/08/2006 23:32

One bottle about 3 times a week and very occasionaly 2 bottles. Thats all i want to put as I want to hear peoples opinion. Thank you.

OP posts:
AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/08/2006 07:55

emmawill

You are drinking too much each week. It will damage your internal organs, not just your liver.

Would also ask the same questions as sugarfree has posted.

Are you worried about the amount you drink, is this why you posted originally?.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 26/08/2006 08:08

You have been in working cultures when drinking is the "norm" or "expected" (particularly amongst chefs and some of them do have alcohol dependence issues).

Do you think you have become too dependent on alcohol and it is now being primarily used to get you through stressful situations?.

Did you know that one in five women drink too much.

I hope you posted originally because you are worried about the amount you are consuming. Your insomnia and alcohol drinking may well be connected.

Only you yourself know if you are ready to ask for help.

noddyholder · 26/08/2006 08:20

That is too much

geekgrrl · 26/08/2006 08:26

yes, far too much. I'd be paralytic and probably puking, so think this is quite a shocking amount to drink so frequently.

Spidermama · 26/08/2006 08:28

It's too much. It has a depressive effect which is counter productive.

Risottogirl · 24/01/2010 00:20

Hi! I drink up to a bottle a night and always manage to find some white wine somewhere! I know it's too much; I am very little, but I can drink my husband under the table. I certainly use relaxation as the excuse. It's something I hugely look forward to when my little boy has gone to bed. What concerns me is that I can't stop at one or two glasses. It seems impossible. I think abstinence is so much easier than moderation and I think the only hope for me is to become tee total. Seriously.
I don't get drunk because my tolerance is so high.
I don't want to become diabetic or get cancer later on. I seriously need some will power and/or some help! Argh!

SolidGoldBrass · 24/01/2010 00:32

It is a bit too much to be healthy, really. However, what you first need to address (other than general squawking media paranoia about Pisshead Britain) is - how much trouble is it causing you right now? Can you afford it? Do you feel like shit every morning? Are you having to fib to people about how much you drink? Are you missing things or messing them up because you are pissed?

Though I do have to address one thing - the one about 'don't drink when you're alone with DC purely because you might have to drive'. This is irrelevant nonsense because quite a lot of people DON'T HAVE CARS. I doubt that anyone should suggest that the car-free have their DC taken into care immediately because they couldn't take them into hospital late at night. Car-owners, if an emergency occurred after they had consumed a single glass of wine with dinner, could call a farking cab, too.

bibbitybobbityhat · 24/01/2010 00:35

risotto - you have bumped a very old thread. There are other far more recent ones you could join, with other mnetters who are cutting down on drinking.

Hang on a sec, I'll see if I can find one ...

bibbitybobbityhat · 24/01/2010 00:40

here's one

MissNash · 24/01/2010 00:44

To drink a whole bottle of wine in a night once or twice a year - fine. To do it 3 or 4 nights a week - not fine. As others have said its quite a lot over recommended limits.

I'm on a thread in health about not drinking and haven't drunk for 21 days. Even when I was drinking I was drinking a lot less than you. But I feel miles better - more healthy, sleeping better, no headaches, less anxious and less depressed. The last two are really important to me as they have made my behavious with the kids much better.

Why don't you try having a week off and see how you feel or even a month off. The results may be surprising. Sometimes its not easy to make connections between what you are consuming and how you feel.

Good luck

ItsGraceAgain · 24/01/2010 01:02

I'm a practising alcoholic. I average around a bottle of wine a night. As long as I keep the average more or less steady - and as long as I can not drink for several days in a row, without withdrawal symptoms, I'm okay.

What I'm trying to say is that any regular drink malarkey is potentially dangerous. Lots of alcoholics binge once a fortnight, lots more have a large g&t when they get in from work, then a couple of glasses of wine with dinner. It's not all about park benches and Thunderbird!

I don't know why you're asking? As this is a subject very close to my heart (which is health, heh), I'm going to throw a few ideas out. Please forgive me if I'm totally off-track.

Family life stuff:
A drink 'habit' interferes with family life, very noticeably when you have children.

  • You have to be stone-cold sober to do the sports/friends/classes/etc runs, because you'd never forgive yourself if your kids were in an accident and you were driving with alcohol in your system.
  • Being a bit leery, or a bit hungover, or a bit too interested in when "the sun goes over the yardarm" of an early evening, when the DCs need you to help them, makes you feel crap about yourself. The kids make excuses for you, which isn't what you'd ideally hope for.
  • Your kids are likely to develop alcohol/drugs/acting-out behaviours, which will piss you off & worry you no end. They do it because you are their parent, and they're children. They believe that what you do is right.

Relationship stuff:
Most drinkers form partnerships with other drinkers. This is not* a problem unless you're doing the distracted thing, as above.

  • Some people change character after a few drinks. This is, invariably, because there's an underlying problem.
  • If you become nasty with your partner after a few drinks, chances are you're not really happy with the relationship, but lie to yourself while sober

Work stuff:

  • Some employers have a zero-tolerance attitude to drinking. While this looks like an insult to human rights, it has gone through all the highest courts in the world. Consensus: If an employer wants to hire only non-drinkers, they're within the law. Bummer.
  • Obviously (I hope) if you miss work because of a hangover, or get pissed during the day to the detriment of your performance, you deserve to be fired. Although most big comapnies will offer you treatment at their expense - which is nice of them.
  • If you slag off your co-workers or clients while under the influence, you deserve what you get. Same with driving on business while not sober.

Health Stuff:

  • The government talks a load of crap. But who's to blame them, since we expect them to tell us what's healthy and they have to rely on surveys? If you drink more than the current recommendation, get your liver & kidney function checked ever 6 months. Take a multivitamin. Eat Marmite (or brewer's yeast tablets, if you don't like the stuff).

Psychological/Emotional stuff:

  • It is very, very usual for people with hidden ishoos to drink regularly. I'm an example! In that light, I would actually advise overstating your habit so as to get some decent psychotherapy - god knows, it's hard enough to come by. Alcoholism is a 'disease' (currently), therefore extra resources are available.
  • If you tend to lose your temper, cry frantically, have random sex or otherwise "act out" when you're drinking, then the wine is squashing an ishoo for you. Go to the doc & get yourself some top-class help.

This has taken so long to type, I'm probably way behind on your thread
I think it's worth posting anyway - hope so!

ItsGraceAgain · 24/01/2010 01:13

Bother, just noticed I put all that effort - and many mistypes - into a dead thread.

MrsGravy · 24/01/2010 08:20

If you're asking it's surely because you know it's a problem?

I challenge you to stop/cut right back to one glass a night for two weeks and see how much better you feel. You might well think you feel 'fine' the next morning, but I bet you'd feel better without it.

So go on, prove that it makes no difference. Give it up for a short while and report back here with the results.

overmydeadbody · 24/01/2010 08:26

I'd say tht is too much, a whole bottle to one's self three times a week every week!

2rebecca · 24/01/2010 08:35

If I had a whole bottle to myself I'd be severely hung over the next day. Never drank more than that.
I usually find a bottle between the 2 of us is plenty and we usually don't finish that if G&T before that.
We tend to minimise drinking during the week and I do try and keep between 14-21 units a week ( which is 2-3 bottles of wine a week if drinking no alcohol but wine).
Ideally I'd be under 14.
You're def drinking too much in 1 go.

AllarmBells · 24/01/2010 09:49

To Grace's fantastic post (which hopefully will be appreciated by those who have posted since the bump I would add -

Health issues
If you have:

  • trouble sleeping
  • bad skin
  • poor concentration
  • joint pain

any of those could also be caused by this, which is IMO massively excessive alcohol consumption. I stopped having a glass a night because all of the above became a problem - you must have an enormous tolerance. Which is not necessarily good for your health either.

bronze · 24/01/2010 10:00

1 bottle x 3 = 21 units+
recommended amount is 14ish

so yes far too much

bronze · 24/01/2010 10:00

for women that is

poshwellies · 24/01/2010 10:03

1bottle of 13% wine = 10.5 units

10.5 x 3= 31.5 units a week

10.5 x 5= 52.5 units a week 10.5 x 7= 73.5 units

You ain't gonna be healthy for long on that amount of alcohol consumption and I speak as someone who regularly drank a bottle a night.

It will fuck you up.

roseability · 24/01/2010 10:14

Or an ambulance SGB!

SolidGoldBrass · 24/01/2010 11:06

Roseability - yes, for very serious issues, but then you would be likely to call an ambulance if it was that serious, whether or not you were able to drive a car.

roseability · 24/01/2010 13:31

Good point - have baby brain

psychoveggie · 24/01/2010 14:32

I think it's too much personally, and no I didn't give up drinking when I became a mum.

Through the week I might not drink anything, if I do drink it will only be a glass (max 2) of wine or sometimes a malt whiskey at bedtime . At the weekends I sometimes drink but not much, only really drink a fair bit if I'm socialising.

Basically I think you need to give your body a break. That much alcohol every week is an awful lot for your body to process. I don't really believe in the units limits as strict rules to follow but if you're going by them you're going over the limit every week.

I have no problem with drinking per se, but I think you're overdoing it.

psychoveggie · 24/01/2010 14:32

Oops, didn't see the date

bronze · 24/01/2010 16:33

neither did I
Its a few posts back