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Help! No sex and no intimacy

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woozlebear · 10/04/2014 22:12

Married 5 years, together 9. Sex vv frequent for several years, then kind of normalish, then vv infrequent for several years. Virtually none for about 2 years, absolutely nothing for 6 months.

This is combined with lack of physical intimacy in general. No kissing with tongues for pretty much whole of our marriage, even during sex. We used to cuddle in morning before getting up. That's stopped, so has any hand holding when out and most kissing hello/ goodbye, even a peck.

For a while he'd still initiate sex sometimes and I'd be totally turned off as I found it v hard to go from weeks of lack of intimacy to being pawed at sexually. I felt it was my fault as.a result and tried to ignore it, just feeling relieved the longer he didn't want sex. Now he seems to have stopped wanting it either.

It's really come to the surface recently and yesterday he knew something was bothering me. Today I asked him want he thought it was and he suggests various things that are issues in my life right now, but nothing relationship based.

I know I have to say it, but I'm terrified. I dread the idea of him hen forcing himself to be affectionate to me out of obligation, and because its gone on for so long I feel like my attraction to him has completely died. I can't see a way forward. Esp as he seems so oblivious to to it.

I'm also terrified that it will reveal what I think is the truth- that he doesn't find me attractive anymore. I can't remember the last time he said I looked nice and there've been a few weird instances recently. For example we were talking about something totally impersonal and I said jokingly. ' I can only assume I'm totally repulsive to everyone else on the planet' and he looked really uncomfortable and made a weird non committal scoffing noise. There have been a few similar cases.

He's incredibly unromantic, always has been, but otherwise is attentive, generous and considerate. Don't suspect physical affair as honestly can't think when he'd have the time, although EA not impossible. He was weirdly glued to work phone esp at weeknds and on hol. Will be tapping away furiously if I leave him alone for 10 seconds and would then seem to be locking it as soon as I came back into view. A few times I've played innocent and told him off for working when he's off, so he knows I've noticed. He usually fibs and says he was looking at a web page even if we're out of mobile data range and he was blatantly typing a message. That said there are no other sings and I know from early days of knowing him when we were seeing other people that be gets diabolical mentionitis. I know he has used porn and presumably still does but not aware of anything beyond very casual use of very tame free stuff.

I was about to say he has always displayed a very healthy attitude towards sex and women. Which he has, apart from one thing that came to light in the early days, which is that he has a fantasy about prostitutes.

Oh fuck. I've literally only just made the connection after typing all this out.

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ItIsAnIdeasGame · 11/04/2014 05:26

You need a proper talk. Bugger being petrified, you are already in a very miserable situation.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 11/04/2014 06:11

Sounds as though you do need to confront this and risk hearing an explanation that you don't like. If he doesn't find you attractive that would be his problem rather than yours, of course. Although 'glued to work phone' doesn't sound like a reason for optimism, sorry.

woozlebear · 11/04/2014 07:40

Actually, I think just as big a reason that I'm terrified is that I know that he won't tell me the truth. He's definitely of the school of thought that its better to lie than upset someone. I can't think of anything worse than having this out in the open but having no progress at all, and probably him pawing at me constantly to try to prove something. He's already started doing it a bit and it's driving me half crazy it feels so fake.

In the old days I'd just have gone through his desk for bills and bank statements and checked his texts but work phone is password protected and bank statements online.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 11/04/2014 08:29

All the more reason for a conversation as I like to put it 'more in sorrow than in anger'. I would start with 'this isn't about sex any more'... because it isn't really. Sex or lack of is symptomatic. It's about two people feeling able to be open and honest enough to be intimate with each other rather than dancing round the elephant in the room. Means no more lying to save feelings and no more half-heartedly joining in for the same reason. There's something that's not being said and, the longer the silence, the bigger the gulf between you.... and I would articulate that.

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