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phoolani · 10/04/2014 09:39

Well, of course not. If a man cheats, it's always the wife's fault, no?

The Daily Fail don't do jokes.

mcmooncup · 10/04/2014 09:43

I feel we should all read this carefully and take note. Then make sure we 'put out' tonight and make the dinner for the dear men in our lives even if they are total cunts just in case they may wander with elsewhere. After all it would be a terrible loss if we were left to live a decent honest happy life of singledom.

SweetErmengarde · 10/04/2014 09:44

Was surprised to find that it's by Andrew G Marshall, I've seen his books recommended on here several times. Still, if he was writing for the Daily Fail, they'd want to make it as inflammatory as possible for click-bait purposes.

benid · 10/04/2014 09:58

Shock Shock

"no one should have to do without the sex they do want" WTAF?

CuttedUpPear · 10/04/2014 10:06

And everybody make sure you keep clicking on those Daily Mail links because it brings them the revenue they need to keep publishing their misogynist shit.

Hmm
Nomama · 10/04/2014 10:10

Erm... the title explains it. If you want to win back a husband that has cheated, is cheating, has acknowledged he is cheating, may have moved in with other woman... IF.

So the advice is, as far as I can see, really appropriate. Why beg him to come back, make a lot of changes in his behaviour, if you won't make any changes in yours? He won't want to come back to the same old resentful, not right home he has already left once. Everything has to be examined and changed, if you want to win him back

As for the have sex when you don't want to, that is a no brainer. You don't want to have sex because he has cheated, the OW will be all over him and in your head too. So the first time you really won't want to, but you will HAVE to if you want to win him back - if you don't / can't then the relationship is over and you don't want to win him back.

If you don't want to win him back then the whole piece is of no use to you! Most of the previous responses are from the (probably wholly sensible women) who would never want to win that kind of prize anyway. But some women do!

BetterWithCheese · 10/04/2014 10:17

Nomama I read it similarly. In fact I wondered if there was almost a reverse psychology thing going on. A bit like ok, so you think you want your cheating husband who has hurt you immensely back well look at this unappealing list of things you'll need to do - do you really still want him back? I may be giving the author too much credit though Wink

Nomama · 10/04/2014 10:21

Thanks for that, I was waiting for the flaming Smile

I may still get it, I reposted on the other thread! But I think you may be on to something there, too!

It certainly is a list that would make any woman think twice about the 'need' to win back a cheating man.

whatsthatcomingoverthehill · 10/04/2014 10:22

What a pile of crap. Paints men as sex crazed, emotionally incompetent. This sort of thing is dangerous because it gives abusive/adulterous men ammunition to justify their behaviour.

hickorychicken · 10/04/2014 10:24

Fucking helll thats so bad its funny!
Hopefully women with an ounce of self-respect, dignity and a brain will realise what bullshit it is Confused

Tommy · 10/04/2014 10:25

if you want to win him back?! Hmm
great prize Hmm

hickorychicken · 10/04/2014 10:26

But yes I suppose it is an article for people who like to WIN?? a cheating husband back....
I'd rather shit in my hands and clap.

bumbleymummy · 10/04/2014 10:32

hickory - I actually snorted at that! Brilliant expression.

worriedsick100 · 10/04/2014 10:59

hickory -fantastic comment.

OP posts:
deepest · 10/04/2014 11:02

hilarious expression!!

Although it is written to aggitate to get shared and talked about...if you take out the gender - and assume that both want to salvage a marriage in crisis together, the core advice is reasonable for both partners:

dont blame each other, both take responsibility for self reflection on behaviors that have got the marriage there, then both take responsibility to make changes....

Jan45 · 10/04/2014 11:03

Pile of crap indeed, just what I wanted to read after the other long post about men and their porn being normal and acceptable and us women need to be cool and pretend we think it's part and parcel of a relationship.

Both highlighting the lack of respect for women.

MillyJones · 10/04/2014 11:29

NoMama has a point though. If you feel that maybe you contributed to the downfall of the relationship in some way ( not that anyone is responsible for the affair itself other than him) and you feel that your marriage is still what you want and you want him back then the advice for actually "winning him back" is totally correct and definitely the way to "get him back" , if you want him back that is. Some women actually do feel that the man is worth it. Look at the relationship threads to see the amount of women who would like a chance to try again.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/04/2014 11:41

So "HE's cheating but YOU should apologise"??? Then later it says that backing down causes the cheater to lose respect for the one he's cheated on??

Have we somehow gone back to April 1st? Or to the 1950s?

Jesus Angry

AlpacaYourThings · 10/04/2014 11:47

WTF?!

Don't ban contact with the OW?!

I'm Shock Shock Shock

Is this another one of those attention seeking articles like the "I'm so pretty women hate me" from the distinctly average looking Samantha Brick.

Lweji · 10/04/2014 11:48

I was tempted to stop reading at "win back a cheating husband".
Kick him out would be more like it.

Bargara · 10/04/2014 12:44

There will be millions of women rushing to buy this book to help them sort out their marriages/relationships. Good luck to them.

Melonade · 10/04/2014 12:46

Most men don't have as much choice as the article suggests. Just makes me think the writer must be used to very desperate, downtrodden who have very few options in life. Most societies are based around the man winning the woman, not the other way around with men behaving like winsome girls, and I'm not sure that sort of social change is very realistic. Sounds more like a middling to late middle aged man's fantasy.

To be brutal, it would surely be much easier just to get another, better behaved man, no?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 10/04/2014 14:04

Take the cheat's answers at face value - because obviously you can , like, totally trust him.

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