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DH too clever for words! Why am I left feeling unreasonable when I know deep down I'm not?!

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tulipswouldbenice · 01/04/2014 12:21

What I would love to ask is how you find the courage to leave your marriage when your little gut voice (little but very important) keeps on and on and on telling you for years that things aren't right, but then your oh so clever with words DH, makes you feel like you are being a right selfish shit for considering it, and things are not at all that bad?!

To clarify, DH makes no effort with me or for me, hasn't done for years. Quite honestly he has never needed me, never needed to be in a relationship, doesn't want friendship, affection and support the way I do (though when we've nearly split before he says he needs all those things, just finds it hard to show it). I was deeply insecure when we married and just grateful he wanted me to be honest, sounds pathetic but it's the truth. He is miserable and moody. It definitely affects our 3 DC. However, they worship him and I can't bear the guilt at breaking up the family. I read in the You magazine in the weekend about a writer who wished her parents had split up as their relationship was so awful. Truthfully, I don't think my kids would feel that way. I could drift on to keep them happy, but I'm not. The trouble is whenever I try and raise it with my DH he is so bloody clever with words he leaves me feeling completely selfish and unreasonable! He'll say but we're both working full time, both running around after the kids and their activities, running a house etc, we're bound to be tired, when is there time to chat or cuddle up? We're both too tired for sex etc etc. This is just the way it is for now, it'll get better as they get older.... Actually that's not true, I'd always find the energy, I want it and miss it, he doesn't.

Do people with more than one child not hold down meaningful relationships? Do they not fit that someone special into their life and quite high up their agenda? He makes me feel like I'm asking for the impossible. He is very helpful around the house and with the kids, very hands on. But, come 9 o'clock, he's straight on the ipad, head down. If I ask him can we not sit and talk he'll say, right, what do you want to talk about? As if I have a specific subject to tick off a list! The older I get I realise I need someone to love, and someone to love me. But, can you up end your children's world for a Mills & Boon fantasy that may never happen? He's not my friend or soulmate and I can't go to him with my problems, and he's proper moody. But he's their dad, they love him and it all ticks over. He makes me feel I expect too much :( I've lost sight of what's reasonable for me, and what's reasonable to put my kids through on the back of achieving that.

My friend has just separated from her husband and says that she feels amazing but it's been really hard on her kids. She said to me the only advice she can give is to be 100% sure before you put them through it, but how can you ever be...?

Sorry, I'm rambling now, but feels good just to type it all out if nothing else!

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tulipswouldbenice · 01/04/2014 22:09

Can't reply properly as dh too close! Derail away, it's all relevant. Thanks so much for replies. Interesting our threshold levels, for some it's resilience and like you say getting fulfilment elsewhere. I've done that for years and bored of it. My friends are a fantastic laugh but I can't get the physical fun and affection that I really miss from them! Will reply properly tomorrow, thanks so much for taking the time to offer such thoughtful comments, truly grateful.

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tulipswouldbenice · 02/04/2014 20:02

43percent, that doesn't sound at all boring to me, it sounds perfect :)

DH will be back in a mo but I came on here to reply properly. However, I got sidetracked by looking at my old posts. It seems I have started three very similar threads, almost one a year since 2010!! FFS!!! I feel like such a f*cking mug now reading them back, oooog it's okay he's agreed to change, I'll take whatever crumbs he flicks my way! What is wrong with me?! I can see that I have built a busy and full life outside of my marriage, career, busy with kids and their hobbies, school governor, nights out with my friends but still I have that empty, lonely feeling but I also see that this is a boring pattern now and if I don't want to live like it, I need to stop talking and start acting, or shut up. The big problem for me is the desire to keep my family together for my kids, I grew up in a step family and I didn't like it, but my dad died so maybe it's different. He has also curbed many of the behaviours I hated on the behaviour front but I still think it's too little too late because he still doesn't really do or value the couple thing. (and still only has sex once in a blue moon to keep me happy, yet when we do, it's so good, argh!!). The other big problem is when he just makes that effort every time we nearly split up, our relationship can be so good, but it never lasts!! Frustrates me that all it would take is that effort on a consistent basis and we wouldn't have to put all our kids through the upheaval of a separation. BUT, having read my old posts tonight, I realise that I, and no one else, has to take control over my own destiny. One life and all that.... God, so angry at myself I have let this go on and on, four bloody years ago my first similar post!!!!!

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tulipswouldbenice · 03/04/2014 16:16

Think oooooog should have been ooooh! Asked him, in what I thought was a friendly non pressurised way about being intimate this weekend as we are away for 3 days without children. His response? You are joking right? I'm shattered. Er no, wasn't joking but further helps to crystallise thoughts. Having seen the thread asking who knows any nice single men, not sure I'll be more successful on the intimacy front if I was single but at least I wouldn't be with Victor Meldrew bringing me down...

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