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Feeling really sad.

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Sometimesbrunette · 24/03/2014 17:26

I am now, after their behaviour at our wedding, not a massive fan our my DH's family. Its clear that they don't care about us. Unfortunately husband will not address it directly with them and I feel unable to as I'm not that close to them.

It started last year. For some reason their contact with us dwindled to almost nothing. Our wedding was in October and my mum emailed DH's step mum to see how she was and if she needed anything for the wedding (she's his step mum loosely his dad left his mother for her when DH was 14 and wasn't therefore involved in bringing them up. DH holds no grudges) His step mum replied that what colour were the flowers as she was worried they might clash with her dress. Mum, who pretended she didn't know for some reason, asked me to email her. So i did, a nice breezy 'hello, how are you? Mum mentioned you didn't know what colours the flowers are, they are pale pink by the way'. i got back 'i feel so sad that you think i am interfering, all i did was ask your mum as she emailed me about something else'. I was so confused. I then rang her and she then completely denied asking my mum. I had seen the email so I knew this was not true.

They came in July to visit i sensed some tension but i couldn't put my finger on it and carried on entertaining their 14 year old daughter with my make up etc. She had an amazing time and i got a 'hugs and kisses' email from the step mum afterwards. Then nothing.

We heard nothing from them until the day before the wedding. We tried to call them but they were always out or whatever. I think we tried them twice. When we did speak to them, DH's father was like 'everything is fine, we will see you on the day'.

Anyway, the night before the wedding, they didn't turn up to the rehearsal. They then both kind of avoided speaking to me the evening before at the get together. I got on with welcoming our other guests.

The morning of the wedding, Step mum started asking my mum apparently where my DH's north mums money had gone (they had a messy divorce and she died, leaving us a derelict house in Spain the year previously). She and her husband then went on about how much stress the wedding had caused them (?!) and how it was so difficult coming down the night before as they are now both working full time. Then said apparently they had been annoyed as we had asked what her dress was like (we asked once! to make sure she didn't clash with my mum).

Anyhow, our wedding planner made an error in our seating plan at the church and put them on the wrong side so they were behind my parents. DH was waiting for me to arrive and asked them to move, his dad refused to move, angrily. The his step mum mouthed to him 'he's not happy'. As we had the photos taken she then said to my dad that DH's dad was going to leave before the reception because of where he was sitting during the ceremony. WTF?

So the wedding came and went and we didn't hear from them. Sent them a thank you card for the flowers they paid for. No response. Sent an email with some wedding photographs of them and their daughter. no response.

We didn't hear from them from October until Christmas day when my DH rang them to wish them happy christmas. It turns out they were with the rest of the family and that we had not been invited for Christmas and oh, he didn't really know what to do with the wedding photos. DH was really quite upset, but won't confront them about it.

The next time we heard from them was yesterday when we announced that we were expecting our first child and his response 'oh, good, oh, not another one......well do keep in touch'.

In January, we had a call from DHs very quiet brother mumbling something about 'we needed to speak to them...not seeing them at christmas.....wedding wasn't how a wedding should be...'. Wouldn't give any more details. DH rang them and said 'fred said i should ring you', his dad denied anything 'noo nothing to discuss.

i am so sad because its such a contrast to how they used to treat my DH and I and we really don't know what we have done wrong. We have always made a huge amount of effort with them, discarded the traditional head table as step mum said it made her uncomfortable at the last family wedding, we've always been very thoughtful and it feels like nothing matters. I just can't believe anyone would behave like this on a special day and break contact when they know their only other parent died the previous year.

I don't get it, my DH was their daughters god father, we've been to masons meals with them, we've gone to theirs with my family and now its no contact.

i feel they have put him through a lot, a messy divorce, using him as a pawn etc to find out information etc, he was the youngest so witnessed all the arguments etc.

DH received a letter from his dads former secretary a couple of years ago telling him that they have a son together that none of his dads family know about. DH ignored it and when he gets angry suggests that he should approach his dad about it. I don't think this will solve anything.

Half of this I guess is seeking advice, half of this is a rant. I don't know what to do, i have thought about writing a letter to them but I feel this will probably be ignored. I just feel so sad that my unborn baby looks unlikely to ever meet this side of the family if things continue.

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Sometimesbrunette · 24/03/2014 17:27

sorry such a long one :-(

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Meerka · 24/03/2014 18:40

it sounds to me like a lot of misunderstandings plus some weird game playing.

But you've tried and tried to approach and be friendly and they've not responded.

Do they know the ceremony seating was an accident and not deliberate? Easy to understand how they'd be annoyed with that, but if it was an accident its just one of those things and if they had goodwill, they'd let it go.

More than anything else I imagine you are wondering why on earth they are being like this. You've tried to speak to them direct after your DH's brother advised it, but they won;'t speak. The only thing left you can do is ask your DH's brother other, lay your cards on the table that you can see something is very wrong and that the wedding seating was a real accident and regretted, but it's clear the problems go back further. | Hopefully he can explain it, which at least will clear up the mystery about why the rift has developed.

would your DH's brother be willing at least to be more friendly than his parents, if they have cut you out? a good relationship with him and his family is better than nothing.

Other than that, I'm afraid there's little you can do. It is their decision, not yours. It is sad and I'm sorry for your baby taht they will not know that side, but I'm sure there will be a great deal of love in your family with or without them.

Sometimesbrunette · 24/03/2014 19:45

I don't know if they do know that. The thing is, DH won't approach them saying 'I've got more important things in my life now'. This is true I guess.i wish they did know it. My DH as he was waiting for me to walk up the aisle asked them to move to where they should be and they refused.

My BILs both seem fine with us. We'll one of them is so narcisstic that we expect odd behaviour from him. He's the sort if person who whines he has no money, next thing you know he's on a 5 star holiday.

SMIL seems to always think she us the victim- the lady wedding she said she found it 'devestating' as her husband was in the head table and she wasn't. And said my MIL's family were 'vile' to her, when I asked what they said she said 'oh nothing, they didn't talk to me'. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't, she had a baby with their sisters husband before they were even divorced. She constantly complains how much money my DH's Mum took in their divorce from 'her'.

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Sometimesbrunette · 24/03/2014 19:46

I just think, you got the man, you made the choice. She's dead, leave it be!

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Sometimesbrunette · 24/03/2014 19:50

I'm not sure if we are being cut out, still got Christmas cards and birthday cards but it's not the same.

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ScarletStar · 24/03/2014 20:01

Why are you bothering? I would be glad of the peace. If your DH isn't bothered then neither should you be. You say it's for your child's benefit but do you really want such toxic people around?

Do you generally get upset when people don't like you? Just asking. :)

Meerka · 24/03/2014 20:07

its not just the wedding though is it? it goes further back than that. If your SMIL is always the victim, then I suspect this is the source of the problem but it's impossible to know. Asking Fred seems the only way to find out.

Mind you in your DH's shoes I would be interested in the half-sibling! And no need at all to contact his father about it in the circumstances. This is quite another relationship.

Sometimesbrunette · 24/03/2014 20:35

No, not generally. It's just I feel sad as its family.

You are right, why are we bothering indeed.

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Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 18:17

It seems history has repeated itself. SIL has posted pictures of the family having Easter together at my FILs house. DH spoke to his dad last week and he told them they were spending Easter in Liverpool. Another lie my my DH. I don't get it, DH is absolutely lovely, wouldn't do anything. The worst bit is that they lied to us.

DH doesn't have any more family so it's really hard for him. He's lying on the sofa having heart palpitations.

I just don't know what to do - what if we wrote a letter? Any advice from anyone?

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Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 18:18

Sorry DH wouldn't do anything to offend, he's one of life's happy go lucky non offensive people.

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LuluJakey1 · 20/04/2014 19:50

Why don't you both just go up and see them one day? When they have no other company, and explain you are both worried that something is wrong and that if they are upset none of it has been intentional and you want to put things right. I know you haven't done anything wrong but that approach puts you in a non- confrontational situation and gives your DH an opportunity to say he has missed being with the family. If they don't respond, I would still keep in touch and make the effort- then no one can say you don't and it might just work.

Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 20:18

Just discussed with my DH. He said 'it's not a safe place anymore'. I will perhaps suggest it in a couple of days time and see how it is. Emotions feel raw at the moment.

Perhaps it's a lost cause. I feel so sad for him. He's done nothing. Not liking his SIL for putting them up on Facebook either.

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LuluJakey1 · 20/04/2014 20:24

I hate Facebook. Causes so many problems. We don't use it. I think when people get upset or angry or have gossip they put it up there without really thinking about the consequences. ( IfI knew how to I'd send. you a sad smiley but I don't know how to.) Very tough on your DH.

Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 20:50

It is. He doesn't deserve it, he is the loveliest and friendliest chap you could ever meet.

I feel so sorry, because he is so genuinely lovely, that it's me and I've done something. I feel like I've robbed him of his family.

DH told me he was conscious of his SM on our wedding day and heard her refusing to throw confetti over us.

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Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 20:53

I'm just so cross/upset/angry how any parent could exclude their kids. Wouldn't be so bad if we knew why but think and husband agrees that his dad would never tell us why, they'd just pretend nothing's wrong

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MexicanSpringtime · 20/04/2014 21:28

I think just enjoy his siblings and forget about the parents. SMIL sounds toxic. A friend of mine lost a brother because he married a woman who found slurs in the slightest thing, years later the SIL was diagnosed as paranoid, poor thing.

An uncle of mine went no contact with me after my mother died because of things I said and did that to this day I can't see what the problem was. After two years fretting I finally realised there was no point in trying to re-establish a relationship because as I did not understand why he thought I had done wrong, I would obviously end up doing other things he would take offense at and we would be back to square one.

Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 21:43

I'm sorry you have had similar experiences. People are absolute sods sometimes.

She is a bit like that. She used to complain about the eldest brother who admittedly lives a 4 hour drove away never asked them to baby sit, however whenever they did ask she'd moan about how far it was and how she didn't have time!! She wouldn't even look after the kids so they could go to DHs mums funeral, all because her 14 year old daughter was at camp with school and couldn't go anywhere in case anything happened!!!

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Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 21:45

Another is she complained about her mother (who has dementia) telling people her other GC was a test tube baby. She said, "I have a child too?".

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Sometimesbrunette · 20/04/2014 21:53

And what type of person complains that a terminally ill woman has money from her ex after 30 years of marriage is taken from underneath her nose? Grr. She is toxic isn't she?

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hamptoncourt · 21/04/2014 08:46

OP you need to back away and do it now.

Your poor DH. On the sofa having palpitations? And you still want to push for contact/sort it out?

Please show some compassion here and leave it alone. There is no need for any contact with these toxic people. So what if they are family? Just let it go and move ahead with your own lives.

NC is the only safe way to go here. Your DH has already used this word to you to describe how he feels. I am not sure you are listening though.

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