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Should I email my mother, who I cut off, to tell her what an arsehole she is?

49 replies

OHforSUCKSsfake · 05/02/2014 12:37

Ok so I wouldnt actually call her an arsehole even though she is but I would like to highlight some major issues so it points out that she is.

I recently posted on here about her, Ive namechanged since.

Im not sure where to start, so Im sorry if its garbled and mish-mash.

I recently fell out with my mother to the point of cutting her out of my life for a few reasons.

One being her controlling and abusive husband, in a nut shell he really doesnt like me, made it clear I wasnt welcome at their house and she made clear he thinks he is right in every way, and I am wrong. Even going as far as to tell me 'why didnt you stick up for yourself' when the arsehole was basically bullying me. Then asked me if my 7 year old could go to theirs for the weekend. Hmm in the house I, myself am not welcome in.

Anyway my issue is not with that, of course it is an issue but I totally give up there. Theres no hope at all.

My issue is with the fact that when ending the conversation my mum said I was benefits scum who needs to 'get off my lazy arse and get a job'.

Despite this conversation taking place a month ago and me cutting her off and telling her so, for some reason the 'lazy arse get a job' bit has suddenly started bothering me greatly. To the point where its keeping me awake at night.

Basically I have a 2 year old who has serious allergies and been in and out of hospital since he first went into anaphylactic shock at 5 months old. He has suffered horrendously with severe allergies, reactions, urticaria, eczema that would break your heart, countless blood tests, and allergy tests. Now at 2.9 years old he is allergic to 30 foods and counting, all fabrics apart from cotton (so polyester, acrylic, nylon as well as wool, feathers) all creams we have every tried using to sooth his eczema.
He can only eat 8 foods (7 really because one is questionable) he is still breastfed because I darent take out one of the few things he can eat, and a his asthma STILL isnt under control which means he is wheezy most days and often on oral steroids and nebuliser.

When having a reaction which is fairly often because of cross contamination, new allergies or re-trialing current eliminated foods he will wake up all night long.

I have been known to lay there and not be able to count to 20 before he wakes again in pain, scratching and wheezing.

He hasnt been in childcare yet because his allergies have been growing and I didnt know what the fuck to feed him one day to the next let alone someone else. He also hasnt been fully immunished yet.

However, I have been trying to change this since the summer. For example, his allergies have plateaued the last few months so we now see an immunologist trying to get the safest immunisations done in the safest possible way, we see an asthma consultant trying to get his asthma under control and we see a specialist in the allergy clinic atnthe Evelina in London.

Ive recently had the oppotunity to do volunteer work at the local childrens centre, it means DS can be with me and I can gain experience to help when I apply for my degree into child nursing for 2015.

But I just got an email to say he would need to go into a creche while I train to become a volunterr which is fine but they serve food.

Its still far too much of a risk, he is too young to understand the severity of his allergies and its not a risk I think can be taken yet, it took a long time to track down a nursey experienced enough to consider and even then he wont have lunch there.

So I have had to ask if theres training at a later date (perhaps I could get different childcare then although I dont know how?)

And the nightbefore last I accidentally gave something to DS that contained an allergen and he woken 12 times by 11.30pm, I stopped counting after that.

These two recent goings on have left me seething with the words my mum said. Her actual words keep playing over and over in my head.

"Yes you are benefits scum, you need to get off your lazy arse and get a job."

What, you gonna come down and look after him while I work are you? You daily mail reading, narrow minded, un supportive. Judgemental bitch.

I really, really want to email her and tell her EXACTLY why I cant just jump to the nearest job and that his waking tonnes WONT be remedied by putting him into his brothers room to sleep and was NOT caused my choosing to co-sleep.

To add, DS is on higher rate DLA and he ess awarded that way before his health got this severe, so if the system believes us, why cant she??

WWYD?

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ThinkFirst · 05/02/2014 13:52

Don't engage with her at all. At best it won't change anything and at worst she will use whatever you say against you at a later date.

Don't let what she said bother you, you know she's wrong. You are not lazy and you do have a job, being a mum to your boys. You are doing the best you can in a very difficult situation, don't let your toxic mother bring you down and undermine your self worth.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/02/2014 14:03

I keep thinking (which is what triggered off my anger to those words) what do I do in the following situations? What if..

"She sends my son a card and a cheque in May when he turns 3?"

The card and cheque are both shredded, there is no acknowledgement from you at all.

"my brother holds Christmas at his and I know she and her husband will be there?"

You do not attend, you'd be better off spending Christmas with your own family unit instead and make your own traditions.

"Theres a funeral? My grandfather is in his 90's, his well and spirited but he is still in his 90's! Do I ignore her in that situation fueling their resentment/feelings for me?"

If she was going to the funeral then I would not attend. Chances are as well that in the event her own relationship with him is poor, she would not attend anyway.

OHforSUCKSsfake · 05/02/2014 14:05

She would attend, she is close with her dad. And Id hate to miss it.

Although with the birthday card thing I was torn betwen binning it nd send it back to her.

Christmas I was thinking avoiding too.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/02/2014 14:11

Again if you were to send any card back this is seen as an "in" and thus contact from you. This is what she wants and that will then give her the green light to bother you even more!.

NC is precisely that - no contact. There must be no acknowledgement from you whatsoever. I would shred any card and or cheque; such "gifts" are never sent by toxic people anyway without unwritten obligation or condition attached.

I wonder what your granddad thinks of his daughter.

I would not attend a funeral either if you definitely knew she was there. I would pay my respects another time. I do see that you would not want to miss it but its really not worth giving her any power at all.

womblesofwestminster · 05/02/2014 14:28

OHforSUCKSsfake As I said, I've been NC for a while now, and here's how I deal with those scenarios:

Cards, presents, etc - bin the cards and keep the presents telling DC they're off you.

Xmas - I spend it with my inlaws.

Funerals - no major ones yet to occur.

womblesofwestminster · 05/02/2014 14:29

As for a cheque, I second shredding it. Banking it gives feedback to her.

womblesofwestminster · 05/02/2014 14:30

AttilaTheMeerkat you sound in-the-know. Are you also NC?

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OHforSUCKSsfake · 05/02/2014 15:50

Message deleted?

Not troll hunting surely?

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MadBusLady · 05/02/2014 16:20

No, spam, I reported.

OHforSUCKSsfake · 05/02/2014 17:10

Oh good, I wondered for a minute whether they thought I was trolling.

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OHforSUCKSsfake · 05/02/2014 17:12

Also since I bumped it up anyway, thank you everyone for talking me down from sending the email.

Im already frothing less about it.

Unfortunately, Im likely to be back about is at a later date when something arises. I think left to me own devices I will make the situation worse by acting out of anger and emption.

Its so much better to have a rational out-side point of view.

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iamonthepursuitofhappiness · 05/02/2014 20:41

I just wanted to say that I think caring 24/7/365 for your child is a full-time job which I am sure you are doing brilliantly. It would probably be easier to be at work (I have been a SAHM, been to Uni and work fulltime). Your Mum said something very hurtful and offensive and I know, if I were you, I would find it hard to forgive her for that given that the reason you cannot work is her Grandchild who you'd think she'd want the best for.

Try to reconcile yourself with the fact you are doing the right thing.

CookieDoughKid · 05/02/2014 21:21

You sound amazing op. To manage and cope with everything you is remarkable. You sound like a fantastic mum.

Your mother sounds like she is in cuckoo land. Could it be she really doesn't have an understanding of the scope/scale of the allergies? And the impact it has on your lives?

I know what I'm like, if somebody said those things to me, id write them a one way letter citing how unfounded and inconsiderate their comments were given they don't have the full story. And given their supposedly educated wise old age they should know better about collecting the facts and analysing it before coming to such conclusions. I'd also wrote a detailed diary 'a day in the life'...even better... I'd document a video showing exactly the trauma describing in minute detail exactly what you both are experiencing, facing and coping with everyday. I'd throw it in their faces and say 'now tell me again....what did you say??' But don't do that. I'm probably pathologically disturbed so I get your anger and I get why you would run your mother's words in your head everyday.

All I can say, is that unless your mother demonstrates she will be receptive to hearing and learning your story, it will be utterly pointless. Waste of your time and efforts. What is it does your mother do for you that's positive these days?

Disengage and walk off. Because you do know better, you're not like your mother. Pity her that she has less of an emotional IQ and put yourself on a superior pedestal. You have nothing to prove to her. You owe her nothing.

paxtecum · 05/02/2014 21:32

It is good to get anger out.
One way is to scream and shout about her whilst under the duvet to muffle the noise. Silent screaming works too.

It will help get her words out of your head in this way.

x

SwimmingClose · 05/02/2014 23:20

I don't know if it would help you to write this letter to your mum. Maybe write the letter first and not send it. See if that helps. The rest is your call. Just give yourself time to mull it over with. I have some experience of where you are coming from, being called lazy etc by close relative despite family illness, it really is awful :-(. And just sending you lots of hugs too, re. your son. Allergies and disabilities can be so hard, I think you are being incredibly brave. I know the Evelina Clinic in London from personal experience and Dr Fox there.

rainbowsmiles · 05/02/2014 23:33

I am in awe of you. You are most definitely not benefits scum. You are exactly the person/family benefits are for. How does someone as good as you come from someone as horrid. NC seems only option. Good luck with the training.

anapitt · 05/02/2014 23:35

no

RobotLover68 · 07/02/2014 09:17

OHforSUCKSsfake just noticed that you posted above about your "what ifs"

I can relate to that, I used to drive myself mad thinking "what if this" "what if that"

When I was in my counselling my counsellor said the problem is I'm not answering my "what ifs"

can I suggest you write down all your "what ifs" and then answer them?

I assure you, you will feel calmer

eg. "what if she sends my son a birthday card/cheque"

example answer - I will shred them

"what if my brother holds Christmas at his and I know she and her husband will be there?"

example answer - I will explain to my brother I don't feel comfortable in her presence and sorry but can't attend

"what if there's a funeral?"

example answer - I will decide when the time is right whether I feel strong enough to attend, I don't have to make a decision about this right now

Obviously I'm not saying the above should be your decisions, just examples of answering your "what ifs"

I hope that helps and good luck OP, you are stronger than you realise

Meerka · 07/02/2014 13:08

almost everyone has said "don't send"

I actually think myself that it depends on your reasons for writing.

Are you doing this because you want some sort of reaction from her? some sort of apology or even a fight with her? the satisfaction of telling her what you think of her?

In that case - don't.

If you wish to calmly and coolly state your piece, entirely for your own need and not in any way to engage with her then there might be a reason for it. A very clear closing of a door, having said you think and drawn a strong and permanent line under the relationship. You'd need to say very clearly that you want no further contact and further calls, gifts, visits, texts, mails etc will be unread and unanswered. This would be a letter written calmly and from a position of inner strength, to say things once and then move on, not becuase you need anything from her.

I suspect you're still handling the storm of emotion that such a horrible comment and attitude has brought about within you, so I suspect you are really not ready to send a letter like that. Could be wrong.

It's just that -when the time is right- sending a letter can actually be a vocalization of your own voice, when you haven't been allowed one before. It can be a form of closure, a way of tying off loose ends. An ending, so you can stop looking back and move forward. BUT it has to be done at the right time for you.

Regarding the examples you gave; I would shred the cheque, bin the card and not go to the christmas day thing. I would however consider going to the funeral becuase it's important to say goodbye to the loved dead. But you'd need to prepare yoruself for trouble and drama from her, and go expecting that. You'd have to weigh up if it's worth it or not. Any feelings on her part of resentment - sorry, but that's not your problem and you shouldn't be thinking of them. They are her concern, not yours, not now. Sayibng goodbye for yourslef could be important though and in this very rare situatoin, it would be a shame not to say goodbye to someone you loved because of her.

Viviennemary · 07/02/2014 13:13

I agree with everyone who says just completely ignore her. She is saying these things to get a reaction from you and to wind you up. Just don't let her.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 07/02/2014 13:29

Just know, really know, that she is wrong.

I think talking with us, or maybe a counsellor, is much better than talking with or emailing her.

I'm so sorry you don't have a Mum that you can lean on a bit, who can be there for you.
And I'm sorry that your little boy isn't always well and has so many challenges to face, as do you.

It's great that we live in a society where the sick and vulnerable are given some support by others. I really hate all this (DM style) benefits bashing.
I think it's just people trying to feel better about themselves by looking down on others and is so narrow minded and ignorant IMHO.

Any of us could need support tomorrow/ at some time in the future.

Oh, one other thing, having worked in child-care, I think all settings will take food allergies very seriously and work hard with you to meet your DS's needs, especially when you tell them how serious they are and how important that he doesn't have certain foods.
I sense that you might find it very helpful to re-consider whether your DS might be able to attend some sessions in a nursery.
I think not so you could work straight away but just so you can begin to think about and prepare for options in the future.
Sounds like you already have some great plans to work towards training in children's nursing?

But ATM, quite rightly, your focus is on caring for your DS x

ohfourfoxache · 07/02/2014 13:46

Are we twins? Similar name, similar situation! Smile

This may well have been suggested already, but have you thought about writing a letter that you will never send?

It might also be worth looking at the stately homes thread - even lurking I've found them to be really useful.

I hope you're as ok as you can be - families can be utter shit Sad

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