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Help needed with my on off relationship

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Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 16:26

I have been with my bf for 3 years now. He is nearly 50 and I am nearly 40. He left his wife 3 years ago coz he wasn't happy and thought he wanted to be with me, I wasn't interested in a married man. We then got together and he moved in with me in nottm. Things was good but then stresses from his wife and teenage children started getting on top of us. They said they would have nothing to do with him whilst being with me, so he left me and moved back to the north. After a week or so nothing had changed with them but he missed me and we tried again, only for 3 mths later he left again. And for the next 18 mths or so this is what happened even leaving me in a new house we got after 1 mth which was just before Christmas. Only for him to a few days before Christmas get back in touch and say he's made a mistake, I stupidly forgave him and he came to see me Boxing Day after I had spent Christmas alone crying and heart broken. Each time we have got back together we have never really talked things through as it's just easier to just try and move on, plus he won't except my feelings and how hurt he's made me. Then he got a job offer to go to NZ, we talked it through and yes we was going to NZ together. The plan was that we would get rid of the house in nottm and all my furniture etc and live in the house up North and commute to nottm daily for the 2 mths we had left in the uk. So I moved to the north east leaving my family, friends and 16 year old son ( he didn't want to come) I sold all the furniture and threw a lot of my stuff away as I couldn't take it to NZ. A week or so after being up north his bosses offered him a more exciting job if he stayed in the UK and promised the chance to go abroad in 18 mths or so, so he took that option, didn't talk to me about it just decided that's what we wanted. I was upset but only coz he hadn't talked it through with me I was only going to NZ coz I loved him. Anyway not long after that he dumped me again, is time he couldn't just walk out like all the other times as I lived up north now and he had no intention of leaving here. This again was all in the lead up to Christmas and yes again a few days before Christmas he wanted to try again. This continued on off for the next 12 mths. Then 3 weeks ago after finally a nice Christmas together we break up again. He wants to be on his own to come and go as he likes and not to answer to anyone. However he doesn't want me to leave the house, nor will he move into the spare room so we share the same bed, he cuddles and tries to kiss me, been telling me he loves me and wants me, but then backs right off. Tells me in detail his plans despite him saying he wants freedom! I've suggested relate but apparently it's not for me but thinks it would help but can't bring himself to do it. I love him and want to be with him but know things have to change. One day he ignores me then he tries to be all over me, last week he was away with work (where the promise of great things never happened and he hates this job and is bored out his mind and regrets not going to NZ) and I wasn't available to his calls etc, and he seems to be paranoid that I was with someone else, which I wasn't... What can I do to save us? Why is he hot and cold? I don't know anyone up here and feel like I'm going out my mind.... Last night I told him how much I loved him and didn't want to end etc, he told me he loves me wants me and i am his world but he can't have everything , I asked if he thinks about the future without me and he says no coz it's too painful. This is as emotional as he has ever been. How do I get him to open up and make a go of this?

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ALittleStranger · 02/02/2014 16:30

Could you repost with paragraphs?

teaandthorazine · 02/02/2014 16:55

Why on earth would you want to 'save' this relationship? He is a total flake. You left your son behind to be with him?

You are on a hiding to nothing here. You know that, right?

'He won't except [sic] my feelings or how he's hurt me.' I ask again, why the hell would you want this man in your life? He makes you miserable.

Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 17:02

I ask myself that, love or having nothing else... I believe it's love, when things are good I couldn't ask for more but bad is hell...

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Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 17:14

Oh and my son wanted to stay and has helped my relationship with him so I do not feel guilty about that, he's with his nan...

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teaandthorazine · 02/02/2014 17:21

OP, read your first post again. See how many times he's left you in the lurch, walked away, changed his mind, made life-changing decisions without consulting you. You've turned your life upside down for him, haven't you?

Of course, he's got form for all of this with his previous wife. Upping and leaving because he thought he fancied a change. What made you think he'd be any different with you?

What would you say to a good friend who posted your OP?

wannabestressfree · 02/02/2014 17:25

I am shocked and saddened you would put this arsewipe before your own child.....

AnAsylem · 02/02/2014 17:26

Don't give up a single thing more for this man. Honestly I could have written your post myself, have been going through an almost identical scenario apart from the NZ bit.

Mine also moved away to be near me I thought he loved me but there was another gain in it for him. Anyway over the last 3 years has been in and out of the relationship often as a means to try to get me to "change my behaviour" and control me. I have been desperate and he always seemed to leave at the worst times Christmas birthdays, when my mum was ill, when I was ill. A total flake who I think only will ever love himself

However you look at it men like this seem incapable of sustaining secure long term relationships. He did it again recently but this time is the last because already I can see things differently. One day you will suddenly see the light. My turning point has been the birth of my granddaughter and I have decided I am not allowing him to build a relationship with her and be in and out of her life like he has mine and my children's NO WAY

teaandthorazine · 02/02/2014 17:26

Do you think your son wanted to stay behind because he knew this guy was a dick, perhaps?

Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 17:27

Yes I have turned my life totally upside down time and time again, because I believed this wasn't him and it was just the circumstances...

Thought I was different coz I knew there relationship had just gone stale for both party's...

If this was a friend I would be saying run for the hills get away... But I know I can't financially afford to at the moment which makes this all the more frustrating for me...

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Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 17:28

Actually my son looks up to him, but he's not aware of how he treats me, my son stayed to look after his nana and continue his career...

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LightsPlease · 02/02/2014 17:30

He doesn't want to open up and make a go of it.

Actions speak louder than words.

Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 17:31

He has never opened up unless he's had a drink, he seems to struggle with fun, emotions etc without drink

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LilyBlossom14 · 02/02/2014 17:34

He isn't offering you anything is he - no stability, love, security, kindness, respect? Exactly what do you get out of this apart from being his puppet? He sounds awful and you & your son deserve so much more.

Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 17:36

Lilly it's only reading this thread that's making me realise how stupid I am being...

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LilyBlossom14 · 02/02/2014 17:40

No you are not stupid - you just trusted someone who doesn't deserve your trust. Please do not take responsibility for his appalling behaviour - that is his own doing. But how you respond to it is your decision, and I hope you can see that you are worth a whole lot more than a few paltry crumbs he is offering you.

teaandthorazine · 02/02/2014 17:40

This guy will never, ever give you what you need or deserve - a loving, stable, respectful relationship. He sounds completely incapable of it.

You may be in the short-term financial shit if you leave, but you will suffer long-term emotional hell if you stay.

I notice on the other thread you say he gives you 'the world'. I promise you, there is so much more to 'the world' than this useless, manipulative, flakey idiot. Please leave him.

Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 17:52

Genuinely I do not have the money to leave, my job would cover the bills, my car needs replacing as after my car accident last year I just got a temp car... I am looking for a new better paid job so I am not so trapped. If I was still in nottm I would have a better paid job and my own place and if not my own place I could go to friends and family...

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Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 18:02

He thinks I am unreasonable coz I don't approve of him wanting every Friday night out with the lads whilst I stay in, boys weekend trips away, and boys holidays... Errrr he's nearly 50 I thought they did this when 18... So of this I can accept but every weekend and holidays no! I want nights out with him and without him, nice holidays together, weekends away together, but I'm unreasonable...

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AnAsylem · 02/02/2014 18:08

As I said with these type of men everything has to be on their terms and if you voice disagreement they "punish" you in some way and make everything your fault

Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 18:18

Sure do, and manage to twist every word you say, or don't say sometimes...

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AGoodPirate · 02/02/2014 18:24

This isn't an on off relationship. It is you taking any crap he throws at you over and over.

How could you plan to move to New Zealand without your boy? The other side of the world. For someone who had already messed you around so much? You need to get some sense and fast.

AnAsylem · 02/02/2014 18:43

OP you will never win with someone like this, I have finally realised. Now I am looking for true happiness, firstly by myself with the help of my family', then maybe with a decent man at some point. Please do the same

DevonCiderPunk · 02/02/2014 18:51

Oh Carrie! Honestly? He doesn't really want to make a go of it with you, but his life is nicer with you in it. Which makes him a coward. I'm sorry. Find your independence and lavish all that love and attention on yourself and your son.

Carriebradshaw27 · 02/02/2014 19:00

I posted this expecting people to tell me how to understand him and help us move on, not one person has and as much as when I read a reply I might think ouch, it's actually helping getting honestly...

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Joysmum · 02/02/2014 19:08

I've had some extremely shit times in my marriage but can't imagine being in an on again off again relationship like you are. We've never split up despite having some of the most trying times you could have. Split up once, ok. Split up twice...? Split up 3 times....?

Is it ever going to be strong enough for you to both want to stay in it when the going gets tough and not want to walk away?