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How to deal with extremely self absorbed and moaning friend?

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meeroolla · 25/01/2014 21:29

I've known her for several years, and she has always been self absorbed and a bit of a moaner but is getting worse and worse. We often go out in a group of friends, which is ok as obviously her behaviour is diluted, although she does dominate the conversation by talking about herself.

Basically she has one subject of conversation; 'her'! Whether it's moaning that she's cold, or moaning because she's tired, or talking about things that have happened to her, it's all about her. It is impossible to have a normal conversation with her where the conversation just flows as she goes over the same things over and over again and seems to have two or three main 'subjects' about herself and that's all she talks about. If I mention anything about myself or about current affairs or anything else, she doesn't reply. Or if I talk after she's been talking for ages she will busy herself with, for example, playing with her phone or rummaging in her bag. Today she popped round for a coffee and she was here for two hours and talked solidly about how cold she is (erm, we all are, it's winter!), how tired she is after doing extra hours at work this week, and about how she isn't sure whether to have her hair done a different colour or not.

To add a bit of background; she is in her late thirties but is totally spoilt by her parents, and in a way it's as if she's never totally grown up as she behaves in a total princessy way. She doesn't seem to 'get' that life is hard, everyone gets tired, everyone has problems, we just get on with it to an extent. Her parents have her child constantly for her, they do all her housework during the day when she's at work, they pay for everything for her, and treat her like a child.

I don't want to cut her off totally as our children are friends (that is how I met her) and have tried to distance myself but she never gets the hint. It would just be nice if sometimes she asked how I was, or listened if I spoke for a minute or two, or would have a chat about something other than herself!

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meeroolla · 26/01/2014 10:30

Oh she's convinced that she's going to get together with some rich bloke or another who will pamper her like a little princess.

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specialsubject · 26/01/2014 10:35

time to be unsubtle. Don't let her in the house, for one thing - when she calls round, answer the door, smile and say 'sorry, not a good time as I'm going out, maybe another time?' If this doesn't go in simply smile again, say goodbye and close door.

Commander6 · 26/01/2014 10:35

Ha!

She might though, especially if she is pretty.

Mollydoggerson · 26/01/2014 10:38

I think all the advice to be passive aggressive is unhelpful.

Either avoid her or politely confront her.

McFox · 26/01/2014 10:53

I had a friend like this. A couple of her self-centred actions over the course of a few months really pissed me off and were quite hurtful so I told her straight that I was sick of her behaviour and was done with her.

It's worked out fine - I still socialise with the bigger group and in smaller 2/3s. If I'm going to the bigger group things and she doesn't like it, then tough!! Other friends were shocked by her behaviour so it's not had a negative effect. As long as you can justify detaching yourself, then shouldn't others respect that?

Also, won't her behaviour be a negative influence on your DCs? Isn't that something to consider?

Joysmum · 26/01/2014 11:00

Mollydoggerson I quite agree.

If hints and subtlety haven't worked, why not just talk about it if the friendship is worth it. If the friendship isn't worth it then why waste your time with subtlety and hints in the first place?

Being direct isn't the same as being rude. It just leaves less room for misunderstanding and promotes greater clarity.

Selks · 26/01/2014 11:01

Urgh I've had several 'friends' like this. No advice I'm afraid, I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with it myself.

HoneyandRum · 26/01/2014 11:07

She is an absolute textbook Narcissist, literally. Look up Narcisscistic Personality Disorder and she sounds like she would tick every box. These are not just certain behaviours, in the core of her very being she has no empathy. I can't see why you would spend any time with her. You can still help her children (because gawd knows they need to see an example of a more normal mother) by having your children be friends. But why be her constant audience? I'm sure you have some really lovely friends that are worth investing your time and energy with.

Personally I would end this "acquaintance" because it definitely is not a friendship - which involves reciprocity.

Ememem84 · 26/01/2014 11:47

I know one like this. At present the moan is that she has no money.

She's just moved out from parents pays rent is out all the time etc. no money. Can't afford to eat. Yet spent £2k on a holiday.

I pointed out a while back that we've all been there. First time moving out no money living on corn flakes etc. and that you cope and you learn because you have to. You adapt. But apparently she's the only one. Ever. To have been in this situation.

Infuriating.

Have stopped listening.

Helpyourself · 26/01/2014 13:06

ROFL at us all saying 'I know someone like this!'

yegodsandlittlefishes · 26/01/2014 14:07

Helpyourself It amused me, too! I was even starting to hope that some of you could be talking about the same person as me. sadly, there probably just are this many narcissistic people about.

Effjay · 26/01/2014 14:16

Would it not be better to be brutally honest? You could be doing her a big favour if you tell her some of the reasons you are finding it difficult to spend time with her? I'm sure you're not the only one. Could you do it over a large glass of wine in a quiet pub? You sound very tactful, so I'm sure you can fid a way of delivering a difficult message sensitively.

I had a 360 review at work once (where people who you work with anonymously tell you are what you are good and bad at). It threw up a few personality traits I was blissfully unaware of, and a tendency to be a bit blunt in emails. It was a bit Shock at the time, but when I knew what it was, I was in a position to change (if that makes sense).

It would not be an easy conversation though ...

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 26/01/2014 15:16

It is about control. The sly little put downs keep her superior. I agree with the narcissistic possibility.

In my experience, trying to talk about it won't work because literally ten words in, she had stopped listening to me to formulate her dismissive response. And then later on I got the condescending, "Why didn't you say anything? You are just like who always bottles things up and then explodes."

If you want to phase her out, start by saying "no" to her once in a while. Then shift to every fourth time, then every third time, etc. You are just really busy, your schedule is full.

meeroolla · 26/01/2014 16:42

Much as I'd like to talk to her about it, I don't think she'd listen. She doesn't seem to listen to a word that anyone else says.

I think the crux of it is she's always been extremely spoilt by her parents, and thinks that she is the centre of the world and that everyone else is a lesser being than her.

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YOUCANBEMYFRIENDIFYOUBUYMECAKE · 26/01/2014 16:50

maybe she has had such intense attention from her parents that she doesn't know what freedom means and because of this she has not been able to experience real life.
sometimes when people haven't experienced alot or feel they don't have any identity outside of themselves, then I am afraid they will have to just talk about 'them'.

HoneyandRum · 26/01/2014 17:17

Meeroolla Check out NPD - she sounds textbook: no empathy, superior attitude, entitled, sincerely believes she is special and that the regular rules do not apply to her, considers herself a natural born leader, chooses her friends on whether they make her look good or not, obsessed with appearances, no capacity for self-reflection or self-knowledge - am I wrong?

meeroolla · 26/01/2014 17:24

Just googled NPD and wow yes it does sound just like her!

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Meerka · 26/01/2014 18:35

I love cogito's ideas =)

other than that, yes, go for patronising. It'll SO piss her off. And with luck, she will avoid you

DCRBye · 26/01/2014 18:41

*Her: (Rattling off big list of trivial problems)
You: Still it's being so cheerful that keeps you going .... *

he he, good one Cogito

meeroolla · 26/01/2014 21:12

I'm definitely going to start avoiding her as much as possible. She was the worst possibly pain in the arse yesterday in particular and the thought of having to listen to her going on about herself for two hours again makes me shudder

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