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Do I take a chance on this lovely man if I won't get to see him much at all?

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alltoomuchrightnow · 12/01/2014 22:58

....who is great....but it leaves me compromising what I want.. This does tie in to my last thread (which I can't find) so apologies for anyone who's reading stuff that may be repeated.
To summarise.. I left domestic violence last summer and moved two counties away, now met up with an old friend from 20 yrs ago who as fate would have it now lives near ish me...(about 35 - 40 mins drive but that is fairly near for me as my friends are scattered all over the globe these days) I kinda broke his heart back then in the 90s but am older and wiser now and still feel he could have been the one I let get away...(we weren't a couple but did have a night together then..we were actually best friends..but I said it couldn't happen again, went back to an ex, and we lost touch about the year after)..
Have just spent a lovely entire weekend with him plus a night last week. Much catching up , intimate, affectionate, and that old cosy feeling of familiarity too. He's the same grounded, stable, fun and sweet guy he was back then. Spent hours and hours in each others arms just talking, kissing and catching up... staying up most of night to talk then sleeping in daytime in each others arms.. a biggie for me as I 'd felt I may never be able to share a bed again...
My heart says to give this a chance. Get to know him again, see what happens, how it evolves.. we have made plans to do things again and spend time together.
He has a very very full on work schedule and is a workaholic, it's the nature of his industry (without being specific, behind the scenes in music biz). After my lazy useless ex who took all my money for booze and drugs, this is a good thing. And of course he had his schedule (pretty much for the year) long before we hooked up again. Also even if we were a full on established couple, I know i'd never want him to change anything.
So the problem is me, not him. I want a chance.. I would like this to work. But I know i'd find it hard to see so little of someone. It could be even harder than a long distance relationship as at least there you can have entire weekends together.
This guy's schedule is such that at best (ie when he's in the country) it could be one eve, or one day, a week free ,max. Much of year is abroad. Even if I went over there to stay in eves, he may not get home till midnight and would be shattered.. then do it all again the next day..
Please don't be hard on me..this is so scary for me after leaving DV and wanting to take the plunge again.
I am genuinely so happy for him that he does what he loves doing and its rewarding . I have friends in same industry and I do know the score..I am not naive on that front as I know how long the hours are and he works for himself too...
But I also know re me.... I would miss him. I'm not a needy person but am insecure. Missing someone can be sweet and romantic perhaps when you've been with someone years and are very stable. Early on..I'd find it tough especially when already insecure. To be honest I've never liked the feeling of missing someone, ever, I find it hard even though there's a bittersweetness to it that shows you care..I don't want what would feel like a part time relationship yet I do want him so I 'm going to have to try.. aren't I?? And yet I do want to be with someone that I can see regularly. That person isn't going to be him but I don't want to end up with another shit guy that I might see all the time. (eg when I lived with unemployed ex in a tiny flat.. claustrophobic)
It's such a dilemma. If I'm scared I'm going to be hurt or would find his hours tough, should I run now before risk of falling for him?
None of this is his fault. Should I give him the chance he deserves, but knowing his schedule won't change? eg for months this year he will be working abroad. Even if things did work out and we got serious, I couldn't go with him.. i'm getting back into work, and budget would not allow for me to join him anyway. He's going worldwide.. and bands pay for him and only him.
My heart says yes do it (keep seeing him) and my head says hold on a minute.. missing him won't be fun... no matter how busy I am...
I know what my friends would say.. given what I've been through, wouldn't I be happy with a casual or part time relationship. But actually..no. I'm glad my ex hasn't changed me that much.. that I still want the same as before.. ie the real deal. Not the needy control freak my ex was stalker but someone I can at least see most days, or 2 maybe 3 times a week in more hectic times even if just the odd evening. Which would rarely be the case. Yet I feel this guy could be worth it... but it's so scary too.. and I've been hurt so much... it's not like I feel this guy would ever intentionally hurt me..it's my take on things...it's not his behaviour or baggage but literally his working life. Also he's got used to this as not had a girlfriend for five years.. the last one he did at least live with.. so they did have some time.. and she was in same industry...
Has anyone else been in similar circumstance, taken a chance and not regretted it?
I know it's such early days but if I don't decide now I could get in too deep and it would be harder to walk if I had to..
Please be kind as this is such a major thing for me and it's so new but I feel so torn between going with the flow and knowing that possibly i'd find things v v hard and lonely...

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alltoomuchrightnow · 18/01/2014 20:35

hoping to bump this, really upset, confused and needing some hand holding..

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TripTrapTripTrapOverTheBridge · 18/01/2014 20:45

I will disagree with the suggestion of 'overthinking' being a sign of unease.I overthink something a lot and that has naff all to do with it.Infact,you sound a little giddily excited to me.

I say,if you've stayed up all night in his arms talking then you owe it to yourself to give it a try.Life is too short and that's something that doesn't come often.Go with it Smile

MillyRules · 18/01/2014 22:03

all.....Hi...whats up?

BertieBottsJustGotMarried · 18/01/2014 22:12

Oh no! What's happened? :(

Hissy · 18/01/2014 22:29

We're here. You ok?

alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 14:21

Sorry, I wasn't able to get back on here.
It's not a major crisis but I've had a very bad few days for various reasons (one being that evil ex has been ringing from phone boxes ie numbers he's not blocked from... i'm staying with my folks and it always rattles them and causes rows)
With 'new man' - I'm having such a wobble.. and i do agree with Triptrap ...but it's so hard. I do want to give him a chance but I'm not going to be left hanging longterm. I realise i'm sounding like such an inexperienced teenager, but this is such a biggie for me given leaving the ex and that I still am in the 'healing' stage although have come a long way and do really just want to get on with life now,.
Like i said, he has the craziest schedule. He's producing an album right now and i knew what it would be like. i have exs and friends in the industry.. I know it often involves 20 hr days etc..
When i left last Sunday from his i wasnt expecting him to say we'd meet up any time too soon but he said he would ring this week etc and hopefully meet up this weekend (even if he didnt get a day off..which would be unlikely) ie he didnt mind me being over one eve if he had work the next day... his starts arent so bad. usually 10...
Phone call never came, we were in touch (but not much) only till the wednesday, i was really upset about something on that day , he was very sweet about this ( i certainly didnt try to dump and offload on him though). The suspended invitation re weekend... i was just left hanging.. i decided not to contact him.. he'd not replied to my last few messages.. i don't want to appear pushy and demanding..so i just let it go and gave it space but was disappointed he couldnt have let me know, either way.
I am really reasonable.. i know the score..but all it wouldve taken was a simple text saying 'sorry, am going to have to bail out of this weekend'.
I didnt just hang around for him.. i went to work yesterday, to a friend's last night.. at 11.15 pm a text finally came through saying simply, how tired he was and 4 days down, 7 to go, xxx. That was it.. no explanation or apology. I didnt respond. I still don't want to be stroppy or demanding but nor do i want to feel like a doormat. Communication is a really big deal for me.. and not being kept in the dark.... yet i don't feel i can explain this to him this early on when we're not in an established relationship yet.. why do men do this and then act as normal?! Blow us out, let us down, then act like nothing happened. Do they even release theyre doing it? With his schedule i know he cant be thinking about me every second but i do expect someone to let me know either way..he was the one to ask me over, after all. I never asked when/if i ws seeing him again,
But I would feel like this with a female friend or relative also... ie i would expect to be told if they were cancelling...i'm not just upset because he 'owes' me something because we were so intimate..it's not that, it's about courtesy and consideration.
Don't really know how to play this now... if this is how it's going to be I don't want it..but i do want him and a chance.. he's only just come back in my life. i did miss him over the years and i don't want to lose him again..sigh... now is not the time for me to lay down rules.. and risk scaring him off... and he's so tired and busy.. i guess i just have to give him space till the albums done but then he'll be onto the next thing... i don't ever want to be in position of 'little woman waiting around for her man'.. i'm far too feminist for that.. but i don't want to appear pushy either ... i can certainly have own life and not try to just live for the moments with him but i do expect contact when apart and not be left hanging..otherwise it would never work.. at what point to i lay down 'rules or boundaries' or at least explain what i want..
I've had working weeks as bad as his in the past and still kept in touch with people...
It does make me realise now why he was celibate/ single for last 5 yrs..he's certainly married to the job... the state of his home shows that he really never is there! But I really like him and there's still so much of my old, dear friend still there..but more so now there's intimacy and a deeper connection..
how long do i give this ?

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alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 14:21

i m not needy but i am so much more insecure than used to be, given what's happened. I have friends and support and don't need a man. Difference is i want this man... and am not demanding re seeing me loads etc..but communicating is a dealbreaker

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alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 14:22

wow i wrote an essay again.. well done if any of you got this far! Blush

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alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 14:23

When i wrote last night that i was confused, that was before i got his text. In the end i just thought sod it, i'm not waiting to see if i am going to his, and went to friends. So i wasnt in the dark later on..but if that was his way of cancelling it was a/ v late b/ v vague!

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MillyRules · 19/01/2014 15:34

Any you have written a lot about how you feel this man is not treating you with respect. To be perfectly honest with you he appears to be not as into you as you are with him. No matter what plans he has or how busy he is with work if he wanted to see you he would and nothing would stop him from spending time with you and spoiling you. When a man wants to be with a woman and really fancies her he shows it. He contacts her, he makes plans and sticks to them and he shows that he wants her. In a sentence, this man is not into you. The reason you are overthinging all this is because he is not showing you that you are a priority and believe me, when a man wants you, you are a priority to him.

alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 15:41

yeh i was going to add that to my listing before reading yours....that i did think of the book/ film ie 'he's just not into you' :-(

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MillyRules · 19/01/2014 16:41

Im sorry but when you have had the real thing and a man persuing you and caring about you and wanting you then anything else is just not worth it. I know he seemed like an interesting proposition but it seems that after you have slept with him his interest has taken a nosedive.

alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 17:11

i have also had men relentlessly pursuing me and then i would give in and they'd quickly turn cold. This happened to me twice last year after leaving ex. They say I'm gorgeous, out of their league (bollocks) etc.. and 'I'd die to have a chance with you' (yeh go on then!!!)
I gave into it, gave them a chance. They both put me on a pedestal then quickly knocked me off it.
This guy did not pursue me and he was once my best mate, long ago. That's what makes it so horribly painful and shit.
Basically he had some fun before his work schedule got heavier.
He was available as was I.
it's not what i want.
I want the real deal with someone and not a shag buddies scenario where it happens now and then to fit in with more 'important' stuff.
I want someone to make the effort, no matter what their career is.
I won't be pushed to the side and kept hanging.
I've gone through what I have, to be second best (or third, fourth, so on).. last

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alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 17:13

I just don't see how i can ever give anyone a chance again. This is three men done this now since I left the ex.
I did bring much of it onself by not waiting.. by that i mean sex.. i was so stubborn re 'what the hell, life is too short' that i didnt really see the risks i was taking.
I can't just detach from sex (like i did when i first slept with him when i was 23, and gave him the brush off)
I guess we keep having painful lessons till we actually learn from them! :-( I have known people form great relationships from having sex from day one... but I don't think i'll ever be one

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alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 17:14

that should read not gone through what I have..

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MillyRules · 19/01/2014 17:27

Unfortunately it does seem that way doesn't it. Maybe you needed to get to know the man he is now rather than the memory of the boy he was then. He has changed as have you and possibly not who you thought he was.
Most men in my opinion (not all) seem to fall quickly, head over heels and mistake love for lust. Once you satisfy that lust they then get to know you properly and sometimes who they thought you were is not the case.

alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 17:40

He was a man then (early 30s now early 50s..he's nine years older than me) but even so...it's a hell of a long time... he has some of the old, good qualities.. but of course he can't be the same.. his career was only just taking off then... and now he's self employed as well

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alltoomuchrightnow · 19/01/2014 17:41

and I'm sick of making excuses. Bye bye to him :-( sad when I'd missed him for so many years.. another lesson learnt. Yet again..this is not what I need. You'd think by early 40s you're done with kissing all the toads?!!

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iamonthepursuitofhappiness · 19/01/2014 17:43

I think it will be a good thing if you can only see him one night a week for the year. It will self-moderate the relationship and make you take things slowly, neither of you wants to be hurt by each other again i'd imagine.

alltoomuchrightnow · 21/01/2014 23:31

I ended up putting things to him clearly re the vague communication and feeling let down. (I felt i had nothing to lose at that stage, and if he got defensive and ran for the hills then at least I'd know).
He listened, acknowledged and understood. Apologised. He admitted he was 'out of practise' too. (not used to this ie actually being heard, as ex's were always so defensive) We had a lovely eve out last night.
So hopefully we'll meet up regularly.. but i can see it being about once a week tops, due to his schedule..we'll see.... but am feeling better and that i cleared something up early on and that gives a chance for a better path ahead if it's meant to be.

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