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Would this be a red flag?

36 replies

LondonNicki · 10/01/2014 22:05

I'm newly dating someone who was in a toxic relationship for 13 years...she was an alcoholic and didn't show him any affection. He suffered the expected anger of an alcoholics spouse..... He admitted he struck her. First said it was once, then admitted it was twice. (Does that mean it was more times I wonder). He is ashamed and mortified by it and genuinely comes across as a mild mannered man.
But it doesn't sit well with me obviously. I'm not involved enough to have feelings for this man. Would you walk away at this point....? Have you been in this situation?

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LondonNicki · 10/01/2014 23:07

He's passed the waitress test (a very important one ..I always look out for that cctvmum) but you can fake that in the early days...DBF - that's a great quote actually.....interesting given he's brought it up so early!

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LondonNicki · 10/01/2014 23:19

So as a result of your wonderful advice I have reconnected with a former online flirt on match who I'm meeting this weekend for a date :-)
You have inspired me ladies..that's much !! Xx

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FluffyJumper · 10/01/2014 23:27

The biggest red flag for me is that he stayed in such a toxic relationship for so long.

LondonNicki · 11/01/2014 02:06

Thanks all. I needed that. Xx

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 11/01/2014 07:25

Glad you rejected him. FWIW I agree with CailinDana that as big a concern as an admission of violence is that he was bad-mouthing a former partner and offering very personal & disturbing information so early on. 'You're lovely... not like that alcoholic I used to be with who was so bad I had to hit'. Less honest, more manipulative.

BoneyBackJefferson · 11/01/2014 10:41

FluffyJumper
"The biggest red flag for me is that he stayed in such a toxic relationship for so long."

Wow, there must be a whole host of peopel (men and women) that put up red flags for that.

FluffyJumper · 11/01/2014 18:42

Yes that's right.

movingforward1 · 11/01/2014 18:56

ok. here goes, after my marriage broke down i met a man, recently divorced.. after a few months he broke down and told me he hit his ex wife and for me to "run" there and then, but he wanted to be honest. he admitted it, she divorced him grounds of unreasonable behavior and DV.. i gave him the benefit of the doubt and believe people can change. and yes i believe that. however 2 yrs down the line he did the same to me, I walked, however if only i had left after those few months, i wouldnt have wasted my time?
Stupidly, he actually admitted to me that he "knew" he would carry on doing it.. i still felt i loved him, but i am now trying to get over it.

LondonNicki · 12/01/2014 00:34

movingforward1 thank you for sharing your story. That's very generous and kind of you and I hope you are moving forward to better things, you deserve it. There's no shame in seeing good in people...sadly we're not always right about them :-(
Hugs

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KouignAmann · 12/01/2014 06:38

This freaks me out! I was in a difficult marriage with an EA husband and at least once he drove me to the point of shouting, swearing and once slapping his face. Eventually I left because I hated the person I had become. I am a calm happy person now but when I met DP I warned him about my temper. After two years of therapy I understand what my triggers are and have only got upset once (not with DP). I think you are all right and DP should run a mile. But thankfully he didn't and I have been given a chance to take responsibility for my actions and show I can change lifelong habits. This thread has reminded me not to be complacent and to work on myself constantly.

Lweji · 12/01/2014 08:54

I think we all have the potential for violence and for EA.

However, some use it to control other people and feel justified in using it, or blame the other person.

Most of us check ourselves and stop as soon as we notice the behaviour and work on getting better.

Most EA victims report acting out of character, as I do, because what they go through is almost like torture and they don't see a way out.

I did scream at exH and slapped him once at the very beginning. He would hound me relentlessly though, even if I begged him to stop. Normally, I try to be reasonable, or walk away to regroup. I just couldn't with him.
The time I slapped him he then grabbed me by the throat. And he had, in other words, just called me a whore.

What I do know now is that I will not let anyone reach that stage with me. The first signs of similar behaviour and they're out.

The difference in the behaviours is how they are used. A victim will probably scream words like stop, listen, you're hurting me. An abuser will scream offensive words or threats. A victim will give a short hit or lash out physically with no intention of hurting. An abuser will aim to hurt or scare.

In either case, the victim should leave. It's the only healthy way.

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