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Feeling lost

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BC27 · 17/12/2013 11:16

I'm not sure what I'm hoping for by posting this - maybe some advice. Maybe someone just to tell me I'm not a dreadful person for thinking and feeling the way I do ?

Background. Been with DP for 20 years and have 2 DCs - 10 and 8. The youngest is autistic.

I work PT - 30 hours a week with a 20+ per week commute. DP works odd hours - some early starts and late finishes and often works away from home

The bottom line is that I am really struggling and don't know what to do. I'm feeling crushed under the burden of responsibility and don't know how to change the situation.

DP is basically a good bloke. I do love him and we have had some lovely happy times together and as a family. He can be amusing and we rarely argue. But he is lazy, forgetful and disorganised - sometimes with very negative consquences. He has a selfish side - a lot of time working away and being waited on hand and foot hasn't helped.

He's not taken to fatherhood very well. He is good at being 'fun dad ' but doesn't cope well with the day to day challenges - you know, the boring stuff. He doesn't cope well with DS's autism and behaviour. He gets frustrated and shouts a lot even though this confuses DS even more and doesn't help so I have to step in and appease everyone. He also spends a lot of time on his phone and in my opinion, neglects the DC a fair amount of the time because of this

The lions share of housework and childcare has fallen to me. DP will do housework but is one of those that 'doesn't see the mess' or 'forgets' - he often leaves things half done and I have to finish them. He will shop if I tell him what to buy ( although he forgets items off the list and has to go shopping again), doesn't plan meals or take care of school arrangements. He does do the finances though - although this is mainly to moan about how skint we are but not come up with a plan for making this better.

10 years ago we bought our dream family house as a restoration project. I would do bulk of the childcare and housework. He would do up the house. Apart from mega urgent jobs he has done nothing for about 6 years. It remains half done. I have offered to get people in, swap roles, asked, nagged, been reduced to tears on numerous occasions. It causes me so much stress but nothing happens.

So here I am at 46. I feel like a hamster in a wheel rushing from home, to the train, to work, and then back, pick up a bit of shopping, get home, tidy up, get kids, do homework, cook tea, do housework etc etc. Plan Christmas, make lists, organise childcare, try to sort out statement for DS, clean up cat sick, appease toxic mother, act as referee.

I just want it to stop. I'm not naive and I know it is 'just life' , but I want someone to share the burden and not make more work and undo what I have done. To come up with a plan. To not have to worry that he's gone to work and left the doors unlocked or, even worse, wide open. That the Christmas card I spent all evening writing are not still in the car as he's forgotten to post them. Again.

He knows all this. He says he will have to try harder, to fix things. We don't have sex either - his choice. Says he'll fix that too. I think I need us to separate as my love for him is being eroded by the stress and resentment that is slowly but surely building and I feel dreadful for thinking this but I just need it to change.

Thank you if you read this. Feels better writing it down !

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Abbykins1 · 17/12/2013 11:48

You sound like a lovely person.

But DP is definitely grinding you in to the ground and if it continues there will be nothing left.

Have you told him you are thinking about leaving him?
Would he take that threat seriously?

Jan45 · 17/12/2013 11:50

Absolutely nothing wrong with wanting an equal partnership and to work as a team, even if you haven't had this but want it now, if he doesn't want the same then you should consider going it alone, life is far too short to be picking up the slack for someone else.

You sound pretty much like a single parent anyway.

SolidGold · 17/12/2013 11:58

So sorry you're feeling this way OP. could almost have been me writing this, except dd is not autistic, dh doesn't take care of finances NOR is he any good at being fun dad - unless that involves watching tv. I'm having similar thoughts. Except I can't support myself on my (hopefully) new 25 hour contract in the new year.

I wish I could give advice, but I do understand. Feel free to pm me if you need someone to talk to.

RatherBeRiding · 17/12/2013 12:02

Hmm - no sex [his choice!] and long hours working away - do you suspect he might be cheating?

Either way, it sounds as though you have three kids to look after, not two. What is the worst that would happen if you left? Could you manage financially?

Or - if you think you want to stay and sort it out then how about some mediation/counselling? Could you give up work to ease the home burden a bit or do you really need your salary?

How about selling the unfinished-project house and downsizing?

Basically it sounds as though you do everything and he just coasts along letting you. He needs a wake-up call. You just need to decide what that wake-up call is. And stick to it!

BC27 · 17/12/2013 12:05

Thank you for your replies.

This is how I feel. Ground down. I need all my spare energy to help fight the battles for DD and DS - DS ( the one with autism ) needs us to fight his corner and DD needs shoring up as she's very insecure in many ways. She gets teased a lot about having a 'weirdo' for a brother Sad.

I try to make their lives as varied and interesting as possible - we go out a lot even though this can be difficult ( I don't have a car). But it all takes it toll.

DP knows I am thinking of leaving - although in practical terms he'd actually have to leave. He has galvanised into action for the last few days but I'm worried it won't last

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BC27 · 17/12/2013 12:13

Thanks solid gold - sorry we are in similar boats !
He's quite happy taking them out for the day, to the park, out for walks but at home it's generally them on the PC or watching TV and him in the other room on his phone. But even when we are out he will go off to take pictures and muck about while I have to manage them

Rather Be riding - I'm not 100% sure about the cheating thing. I know he does chat online to people, but so do I. He has plenty of opportunity. I've asked him outright but he says not.
Considered suggesting we sell the house but I would be gutted to leave it or sell. I could just about manage on my own financially. He's a bit of a people pleaser - never wants to be the bad guy. I'd have to call time on things. I don't think he would

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sonu678 · 17/12/2013 12:20

this too shall pass. As the kids get older, things will change. Don't call time on what quite frankly seems like a loving, normal relationship, just because it is bloody hard work at the moment. As you have said, its just life.
as for the jobs, just get someone in to finish them. less aggravation than what you have already described.

RatherBeRiding · 17/12/2013 12:51

You do sound rather overwhelmed at the moment. If the house is so important to you then simply get people in, as suggested above. This is what I had to do after years of nagging and pestering to get jobs round the house done - I gave up and arranged decorators and plumbers myself. Saved a hell of a lot of hassle although I did resent having to make all the decisions about absolutely everything. Once you've got the house sorted, or even while you are getting the house sorted, have a look at practical ways to make your life a bit easier.

Shop online and get it delivered or else do click and collect.

How about a cleaner a couple of mornings a week?

Once things are a bit less of a PITA on the domestic front you might find that you are feeling less negative about your relationship? Might be worth a try?

BC27 · 17/12/2013 13:04

Thanks for the suggestions riding. I guess this is the problem. I'm too busy just surviving that everything else seems such a monumental effort. The irony is that I employ and manage contractors all the time at work !

I've tried this before with DP but he usually complains that it will cost too much and that his mate can do it for less. But then the conversation with the mate never happens and so the work remains undone. It's a massive project. Each room has to go back to bare brick and be rebuilt.

He has always resisted online shopping as he thinks you get ripped off, but I might just have to put my foot down about this one and make it a condition of any New Start we negotiate

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MsYamada · 17/12/2013 18:14

Similar boat here (including the stress, resentment and autistic ds). I've just been brooding around here trying to work out what I can do to change things. I know it's no consolation to you, but it's been a relief to read someone else describe how I'm feeling.

SolidGold · 17/12/2013 18:36

It would be great if we could come up with a plan of attack. Smile

Dh doesn't even really like taking dd places. And now she is entering puberty he is very intolerant with her sometimes.

Handywoman · 17/12/2013 18:51

Another one here, with a job, 2 kids 10 and 8, youngest also autistic. In June I had a dh who was snappy, angry, miserable, resented my job and contributed very little to family life. In June after a particularly baffling week being subjected to vitriol and a horrendous mood I lost the plot and threw him out. The worse part about it all was feeling that we just weren't a team at all. That was the thing that made me saddest. I know he would have carried out being miserable with me for the rest of his days (why not, I did all the shopping, cooking, cleaning, laundry, finances: why would he leave?) I don't know what you should do, OP, I fear you will have a hard time changing things but I think the very least you can do for now is start thinking about your own needs. Please do that. Because right now they sound like they are coming last by quite a long way.

Shellywelly1973 · 17/12/2013 19:03

Your post sounds scarily similar to my life.

Im expecting dc4. 2 ds' s with asd. Literally I do everything. I bought a house 10 years ago that needed stripping back to brick! Its done but not to the standard it should have been. Not very good with dc. He won't even take them out-even 1 at a time.

I am self employed. Work a range of hours but December & January are always really busy & I often do 60/70 hours a week. Dp wouldn't even do dinner once a month. Very little housework. Didn't do any of the diy I asked him to do before the baby arrives. Im due in 6 weeks.

So now im on my own. No friends or family. Grown up dc live far away. I don't know if its better. Its still hard. I don't know how I will cope when the baby arrives.

Dp isn't planning on helping. Won't make visiting arrangements. He has no intention of paying maintenance as annually I earn double whst he does. His few is that I asked him to leave. He doesn't do anything' that wrong'...

I told dp to leave last week.

Handywoman · 17/12/2013 19:11

Thanks Shellywelly1973

BC27 · 18/12/2013 07:54

Thank you for all your replies. It really helps.

Handy woman - your post really struck a chord with me. DP had a permanent look of misery on his face yet claims he's not miserable. He's not angry all the time but when he snaps he really loses it and it's getting worse / more frequent . I think this is what has caused me to really think about the future. I've started covering up for the DC and I know this isn't good. How is it going to be when we have 2 stroppy teenagers in the house ?

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BC27 · 18/12/2013 08:02

Shelleywelly - I really feel for you. I guess this is my dilemma. When DP is away I mostly cope better as the atmosphere is lighter and me and the DCs pull together more.

But then DS will have a huge meltdown and DD will wind him up and it seems like the loneliest place in the world trying to cope on my own.

All I know is that I need something to change.

And good luck with the baby !

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BC27 · 18/12/2013 08:09

Solid gold and Ms Y - are your OHs reluctant to take out the DCs due to DC's erratic behaviour ? This is something I have struggled with.

DS can act very odd at times - random noises, outbursts, lots of physical tics. I've developed a skin like a rhino to ward off the stares and tuts of strangers but I'm not sure DP has. I'm really, really proud of both of my DCs and it makes me sad that DP seems not to

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BC27 · 18/12/2013 08:18

A general update. DP and I had another talk. Agreed to enjoy Christmas and then sit down in the new year and get our cards on the table

Oh and someone is coming to measure up for new windows on Saturday. I did have to laugh. Last New Year's Day we talked. DP said he felt overwhelmed by the house and renovations. My advice - break it into small chunks and make a plan. This year, replace the windows. They are falling to bits. They won't see another winter. Focus on these. Nothing else.

And now, what, 2 weeks before the end of the year, someone is finally coming to measure up ....

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SolidGold · 18/12/2013 08:56

BC, no, dd's behaviour not erratic, not sure why dh is reluctant to take her out. Maybe he thinks I should be there too? Maybe he just doesn't think?! Maybe he's lazy? He's definitely lazy!

SolidGold · 18/12/2013 08:59

Glad someone is coming to look at your windows. At least it's a step in the right direction.

I think the plan to talk in the new year is a good one. Christmas is probably not the right time to start a serious talk about the future ...

I've got all this resentment building up inside me, but due to the circumstances (dh out of work) feel it would be unfair to make things even worse.

MsYamada · 18/12/2013 11:10

Small chunks is a good plan. Get them windows done, that's one thing off the list. DH can be very good with the dc (although my ds1 sounds a bit like your ds), infact to outsiders DH probably looks great, but it's all the planning and sorting that gets left to me. I could be fucking great if I just had to rock up and play with the kids. He really has no idea of the day to day running of their/our lives.

DH gets sulky if he doesn't get to do what he wants to do too, so I either I put up with that or I try to please everyone and neither way is really working for me.

It sounds a bit pathetic written down, but there's other stuff and it's all built up. My life just feels like a support role right now, and I'm not even doing that well. It'll be ok, I'm plodding on, but I want more.

MsYamada · 18/12/2013 11:11

Resentment is the right word Solid. I feel it's not making me a nice person, and then that makes me feel worse.

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