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Am I wrong to worry about his friendship? (long)

30 replies

boobloodyhoo · 12/12/2013 10:38

I've been with my fiancé for five years and we have two children together, a dd aged 4 and ds who is 2. When I was pregnant with our son he had an emotional affair with someone online. Although he says it was never sexual they did discuss how good sex was in the morning and he didn't stick up for me when she told him he should go out and find someone else to fuck instead of me. I found out because he wrote a letter to her starting My Dear Sexy name. I chose to stay and work things out as our situation was very stressful and complicated at the time (long distance, interfering toxic parents).

Now this year he has become rather close to a female colleague in work. At first I thought that I was just jealous and paranoid so I tried to work on my own issues and be honest with him about how I was feeling. He talked about her a lot. At one stage she discussed how her friend was with a bloke and how she had his hand on his cock and he had his hand on her cunt and he went on about how it was great that she is so open and how he wished that I was more like her. I told him that this was out of order and asked him to back off. He frequently says that she is a lot like me, that she reminds him of how I used to be.

A few weeks ago he got rather drunk and started ranting on about how he loves her like a sister, that nobody is going to come between them and how I won't make him choose between his friend and me. Now I never bloody asked him to choose, I asked him to back off. Every day they go out for smoke breaks and lunch breaks. They message each other in work quite a lot and he talks about her so much sometimes it gets on my nerves. When I asked him to back off, he was telling me about a chat he had with his mate outside but didn't tell me until I asked that she was there and shouted at me saying I was paranoid. He also didn't tell me that he hugged her (just as a friend) so if that was the case why lie and then why blame me for lying.

Last night we had a blazing row over her. He sat in my car with the engine running drinking beer so I grabbed the keys and the beer (not the wisest move I've ever made) and the beer started squirting everywhere. I got a bit of a fright as I knew I'd make him angry so he jumped out of the car, grabbed hold of both of my arms and proceeded to push me backwards (he maintains he pulled me). I went flying backwards on the drive. He stormed off to his mate, spends over twenty minutes on the phone to her (although he says his mate was talking to her not him) and didn't tell me about it.

I feel like I'm going crazy. Please go easy on me and tell me if I am out of order here. It looks like I need to go to my gp to see about antidepressents again now too.

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JaceyBee · 12/12/2013 10:45

No don't medicate yourself! You are not ill, you're in a shit relationship! ADs won't help with that. Get rid of your p, he's treating you like a complete fool.

boobloodyhoo · 12/12/2013 10:52

He says that all his friends believe him, that there is nothing going on and that I am crazy and paranoid. I keep reading what you said to try and make it sink in. It's a bit of a shock but thank you.

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gaygirlwales · 12/12/2013 10:54

He is completely out of order! Complete lack of respect for your feelings.

LTB

JaceyBee · 12/12/2013 11:16

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so harsh! I'm a counsellor and it just makes me sad to see so many women taking psychoactive drugs with horrendous side effects and long term health implications just to chemically cosh themselves into putting up with terrible relationships in which they are treated like crap by someone who clearly has no respect for them.

I think your p is treating you terribly and you should ask him to go. Of course this friendship is taking the piss! Sorry you're going through this and feeling so down x

DollyShouldHaveDumpedStiva · 12/12/2013 11:53

The thing is, it doesn't matter if there is nothing else going on. You're unhappy with what is happening. I would be devastated if my dh was discussing cocks and cunts with another woman. It's out of order and he's a prick.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 12/12/2013 12:06

He calls you crazy, bad mouths you to all his friends, has completely inappropriate conversations (and probably worse) with other women IRL and online, and then pushes you around physically & scares you because you dare to object? Agree fully with JaceyBee... AD's are not the solution here. I don't often think 'LTB' is the answer but it's clear this one has been taking the piss for years.

boobloodyhoo · 12/12/2013 12:07

Thank you for all your replies, they have helped massively. I do not think that anything went on between them. I think that it is all in his head and how he has treated me is wrong. I've had depression before and want to nip it in the bud before it really takes hold then I can work on what I need to do next. And yes, I was devastated. Thank you.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 12/12/2013 12:07

BTW.... these 'interfering toxic parents' you mentioned earlier. Are they your parents? Do they not like him?

Mabelface · 12/12/2013 12:10

looks like if you got rid your depression would miraculously improve. he's a cheeky and nasty twat.

Twinklestein · 12/12/2013 12:12

To be honest OP, he sounds toxic himself - absolutely vile.

I don't care what his friends think, they don't have to live with him.

boobloodyhoo · 12/12/2013 12:16

And now she wants to punch my fucking lights out and he feels the same. Nice.

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Ubik1 · 12/12/2013 12:21

I don't often think 'LTB' is the answer but it's clear this one has been taking the piss for years.

That echoes my thoughts too...

CogitoErgoSometimes · 12/12/2013 12:21

You realise that, on the strength of the beer in the car & pushing you over in the drive incident, you could actually report him to the police DV unit and they'd take you seriously?

LoisPuddingLane · 12/12/2013 12:30

'And now she wants to punch my fucking lights out and he feels the same'

Sounds like they deserve each other.

JollySantersSelectionBox · 12/12/2013 12:32

If she is physically threatening you is it by text? She sounds lovely btw.

Perhaps you should go out and meet a male friend you can cock-grope while he feels your minge. Would your fiancé feel better with that? Would that make him giggle?

By him telling you that she reminds him of how you "used to be" he is looking for recognition from you that you have changed for the worse, which will then give him permission to spend more time with her, have sex with her etc guilt free in his tiny little mind.

After all he signed up for a relationship with carefree you, didn't he? Not paranoid, miserable, depressed, mistrusting you.

What he is forgetting is that he is no doubt 100% behind the change to the current you. She seems to be adding to this to, by belittling you to him. She definitely has an agenda, but is playing the supportive friend in the face of nightmare wife card for now.

By having the EA/online relationship early in your engagement he created a pit of mistrust and deception that you (not he) have had to live with all this time. With his history he should be fucking falling over backwards to avoid these kinds of scenarios now, if he committed to being with you. Not driving you crazy with paranoia and upset.

I would say be done with him, and let her be welcome to him.

VodkaJelly · 12/12/2013 12:34

"And now she wants to punch my fucking lights out and he feels the same. Nice".

And there is your reason to leave him.

I have read your thread and he is basically a headfuck who enjoys the attention from other women and treats you like shit in the mean time.

Any man who sides with another woman who wants "to punch your lights out" is not worthy of you.

Dump his sorry ass, leave him to his other women. And dont look back.

TalkativeJim · 12/12/2013 12:41

get rid of him.

Basically, you could sum up this whole sorry tale - from the first emotional affair while you were pregnant - ffs!! - as: this guy is a TOTAL LOSER.

Doesn't support you.

Doesn't respect you - doesn't matter if he's shagging this person or not - if he isn't, he will be soon - he has zero respect for you.

Is violent.

Look, forget all the detail - really. The bottom line is that you're having such a bloody MISERABLE time with a lying, flirting, unfaithful, nasty childish BELLEND that you're sinking into a depression.

I'd bet a grand that a life without him in it would be the best cure you could find!

Have a real think if you want this to be your life, forever. Worrying, paranoia, seeing his smirking cheating face across the table. Occasionally being assaulted when you stick up for yourself.

Because he will NOT change.

JoinYourPlayfellows · 12/12/2013 12:42

Get rid.

He's a complete prick and he treats you like shit.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/12/2013 12:42

What do you get out of this relationship now?.

Do not stay within this dysfunctional relationship just because there are now two children as well.

The writing was on the wall for this a long time ago; its time to leave him. The main cause of your depressed state is actually to my mind him. He has made you feel so low so ADs are not the answer here. Kicking him to the kerb is.

Jan45 · 12/12/2013 12:56

I would actually say you've found great restraint in all of this, the goading, the comparisons, how she is so much better than you - it would be enough to send anyone off the deep end so in the grand scheme of things, you've been pretty resistant.

His complete lack of respect for you is blaringly obvious now so salvage what self respect you have and send him packing to her, they sound a right pair of idiots. His behaviour is not that of a loving partner, least of all a fiancé.

boobloodyhoo · 12/12/2013 13:19

Well, I had a chat with him and he acknowledged that he did say those things to me and that he does need help with his issues (as do I to be completely honest). I've ended looking like a right cow to his friends. I was at the end of my tether and I just snapped, couldn't take it any more and went to pieces. I don't know what will happen next and will take all your comments on board. It's not the first time people have said that I should leave him and this is something that I am going to have to face up to. He's ended up hurting me and this other girl unnecessarily. I'm not sure she will actually realise that and will probably continue to blame me and lash out at me. It's a horrible situation all round but thankfully I can stand back a bit and see what it is that I need to fix and work on. I can only change me and I'm worth more than this. Thank you.

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LoisPuddingLane · 12/12/2013 13:25

I don't understand where his friends come into it. Were they watching?

Jan45 · 12/12/2013 13:26

You really have nothing to change, you've done feck all wrong apart from react to someone who has been treating you like shit.

JollySantersSelectionBox · 12/12/2013 13:32

Don't waste a minute in worry about the other woman at all. She sounds trash and shouldn't be facilitating such a friendship with your fiancé.

haveyourselfashandy · 12/12/2013 13:40

This is what your entire life will be if you don't get rid of this prick.

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