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My mother doesnt seem to care about me.

17 replies

mikadolover · 11/12/2013 18:46

Hi ladies, I have seen the good advice you have given others and wondered if you could help me?

This is very long so apologies..

My mother is a single parent and I am the second eldest. I never knew who my dad is. She told me a fake name and gave a fake picture something which I knew was a lie when I got to about 12. She made me think this fake guy was married and had abandoned me. Then she admitted she didnt know who it was. Then a few years later it was this fake guy again. Then out of two guys and then again she didnt know. Sometimes she would cry when I pressed her (very narcisstic) but I asked her if she had been raped, if I was adopted etc and I told her that whatever she said I wouldnt judge even if she had gone to a party and slept with 50 guys. But she would just go back and forth to different lies forgetting what she said!!

I have now not spoken to her for over six months after an argument where in the same conversation she went back and forth over her stories and lied in my face that she had not said what she had said. Since not speaking to her she has never tried to contact me or apologised or even attempted to tell me the truth. It was my birthday recently and not one member of my family tried to contact me. I feel totally abandoned.
What makes it worse is that my mum is white and I am mixed raced. I do not even know what country my black side is from!! I find this embarrassing and humiliating.

There is alot of back story to this but I do not want to go that deep into it just incase someone I know reads it as alot of the things ive had to deal with in the family could make me identifiable.

I have a close older friend who has try to give me advice but I have done everything to find out who my dad is. I have asked her to write me letters etc but she doesnt care. She tells me to get over it etc.But like I said we are no longer in contact. (My mums family do not know anything nor does she have any friends that she was in contact with around my birth).

I feel my mum hates me and treats me different hence why I thought she was raped but she denies it. I really do not know what to do. (Im 28)

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SoleSorceress · 11/12/2013 18:53
Thanks

Do yourself and your Mother share the same surname? Is there a named Father on your birth certificate?

mikadolover · 11/12/2013 18:54

Thanks for the response. Yes we had the same surname and there is no father on the birth certificate.

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SoleSorceress · 11/12/2013 18:59

OK sorry for stupid questions but needed to check.

Do you remember the names she told you? Did she tell you the area or anything else specific about the two guys? You could check out those to see if they are Black guys.

Tried Facebook etc

Your Mother seems toxic. I know how that feels and haven't been in contact with my family since 2005.

DontmindifIdo · 11/12/2013 19:00

To be honest, it sounds like she doesn't know. Hard to accept, but you might well be the product of a one night stand who's name and details she doesn't know. If it was an actual relationship, it would be more likely she'd have told you by now.

It must be terrible not knowing your history, but you need to accept you'll never get it from your mother.

TeenyW123 · 11/12/2013 19:00

Mikadolover

Perhaps she genuinely cannot remember who your bio father is. If she slept around a bit (and she hasn't denied that, has she?} and she can't pin the 'one' down, then there seems little point in pursuing your quest.

Just a thought though, the Salvation Army do a lot to reunite families/missing persons. Perhaps they could give you a steer?

If it's peace of mind you're after, have you thought about counselling?

However, your mother sounds toxic. Have a look at the 'But We Took You to Stately Homes!' thread. You'll find like-minded confused and baffled (sons and) daughters there.

Teeny

mikadolover · 11/12/2013 19:03

sole the names she gave sounded so fake but did look up on social media. But she admitted at a later date that she made up the names just to give me something.

Dont mind if I do. The thing is if it was a one night stand I wouldnt mind so not sure why she wont say. She cannot not even say where she met the guy/guys or what they even looked like. I have kind of resigned myself to not knowing but the fact that I stopped talking to her over it and she still hasnt got in contact makes me feel like crap! Thanks for replying btw.

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mikadolover · 11/12/2013 19:05

Thanks teeny. Your right she probably slept around but just cannot accept the lies. I will check out the thread you said.

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EirikurNoromaour · 11/12/2013 19:25

Hi, this sounds very hard. I have no great advice but just to say the Salvation Army won't trace him in this case. They only try to reunite parents and children where there is a significant prior relationship. I'm not really sure what the rationale is but that's what I was told when I tried to help someone in a similar situation to you.

SoleSorceress · 11/12/2013 19:27

You feel better without your family in more ways than you don't? They've ignored you and you feel abandoned. You can get past this. Maybe find a decent therapist to chat it over with. The quicker you do this the better off you'll be. None of this is your fault xxxx

Meerka · 11/12/2013 21:27

mikado my heart goes out to you.

The stuff below, I hope some of this helps ... not sure how much will resonate with you or if it will feel like it doesn't apply.

I'm afraid that the unbearable truth is that unless your mother is honest with you, it's most unlikely that it'll ever be possible to find your father. It's a brick wall that you cannot get through. I hope that one day she will have the grace to give you the info that she does know. If that happens you have the Salvation Army, also when I was tracing my birth-parents Social Services helped greatly though that was quite some time ago now and they may not do that any more, and lastly there are (reputable) private investigators. And the internet ofc.

But it does have to be faced that she may not ever give you more information. As you clearly realise, she may not have more than the tiniest bit :( Also .... if you did ever find him, he might be someone you'd wish you'd never contacted. Finding a lost parent can be good, but it can be bloody awful too and facing the reality can be extremely unwelcome (not that I'm speaking from experience coughs).

It's clear that you feel such yearning, not only for some information on him but for real, unconditional love from your mother.

Again, I'm very sorry to say that it seems possible that you will never get that from her. I suspect that you know that at some level.

How to cope? it's always difficult. When you are left alone in the world without family and with a yearning for them, a circle of friends -strong, real friends who are there through thick and thin- do help. It's not the same, but it's something.

Other than that, some intelligent and skilled therapy might help, possibly group therapy? there's therapists and therapist though. One registered with the main psychotherapy organisations should have some chance of being good.

If you can build your own family, partner and children, that will be a massive thing. It is building your own family who can't replace the one you came from but they become profoundly central to your life. As long as the partner is decent and treats you well! But, well, not everyone does find a good life-partner so it isn't something I could say you could rely on.

Those first two ideas would help a little, I hope. Beyond that, sometimes there is no actual resolution to an unsatisfied deep need like that for family. But what can happen is that over time, and it does take time, years, you grow stronger. You learn to live with the longing and unsatisfied curiosity and while it never goes away, you build up other things that are just as strong a part of you. They are real and solid and good. Career, family of your own, good friends.

I think you have to face that you may not ever know and that your mother is not loving towards you. You may have to live with that longing for family, but choose to turn your energies into other things and build them up instead. Find something that really matters to you and that you can contribute to, so that when you look back you know you have made a difference to someone or some people. Its not the same, but it does actually help.

Either way, I really hope you can come to terms with it all, whatever happens with your mum.

Seabright · 11/12/2013 22:05

There is a genealogical DNA test you can have. It wouldn't tell you who your father is, but would tell you about your ancestry - which part/s of the world your ancestors came from. Would that help at all?

Meerka · 12/12/2013 10:08

what a good idea!

mikadolover · 13/12/2013 15:24

Thank you for the comments.
Re; The genealogy test I have bought that up , she said she would pay for it but I am still waiting. I suppose something that I need to do myself. However it will not say that I'm Jamaican it will say African etc and go far back into the history but better than nothing I suppose.

Meerka thank you for your message. What you does resonate with me. The building the family part especially, this is why I have wanted to plan a family for sometime but unfortunately was unable to conceive for many years and when I eventually did I had a miscarriage. However hopefully in the future I will have my own future and that may help heal the wounds so to speak.

Im sorry that you also had to experience the trauma of issues with birth parents but hope that you feel better about that now?

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Meerka · 13/12/2013 15:37

I am so sorry about your miscarriage. Is medical help of any use? I hope that things change for you.

My own birth / adoptive circumstances became ... extremely complex and very little of it was good. Some of it was downright bad. I was lost for many years, truth be told, and received some pretty intensive therapy on the NHS. Thank you, NHS. That, some damned good friends who half-filled the aching hole where a loving family should be and simply getting older helped a lot. In the end, age 35+, I have been lucky enough to settle down with a good man and we have a child and (even more luckily) I have a wonderful mother in law who, and I'm 44 now, has become like a mother. That helps too.

Does it fill the hole from the empty early years? No. But there's so much else in my life now that hole is only a part of my life, and doesn't dominate the way it used to. I'd give a lot to be able to turn parents - whether they were present or absent - out of my nightmares though.

plainjanine · 13/12/2013 21:49

Meerka, I've read so many of your posts - always good, sensible advice. Usually insightful, always helpful, and constructive. Now I just want to give you a hug!

OP, I can't offer any advice, sorry, but wanted to say that I hope you find some peace with yourself, and offer a hug too.

Can you tell I've been on the wine, much? Blush

Meerka · 13/12/2013 21:56

aww that was lovely, plainjanine. Thank you. Maybe mikadolover and I can join you in a glass of wine =)

Wine and [mincepie]

plainjanine · 13/12/2013 22:00

hmmm mince pies.

I have enough trouble keeping my face out of the cupboards when drinking, but at xmas it's harder than ever. Cheers! Wine

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